"I'm female and I prefer none of the above" would be my option, so I didn't vote. My favourite demographic is probably one of the most hated ones, but I love it! 🤣

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There's some excellent josei and shoujo out there, but it's rarer than unicorns. The vast majority of it is either excessively maudlin or sociopathic, the kind of tripe that makes mindless and generic T&A harems look like works of high art.

It's odd because the absolute best shounen and seinen authors are women; like Katou Kazue, Tanabe Yellow, Hoshino Katsura, Chrono Nanae, Mizunagi Ryuu, Arakawa Hiromu, Amano Kozue, Mori Kaoru, Irie Aki and of course Takahashi Rumiko just to name a few.
So why is it that women can write such fantastic male-oriented stories, but hardly any worthwhile female-oriented stuff?

It's more that manga with cross-over appeal are more likely to be published as seinen or shounen. It's rather self-perpetuating: seinen and shounen mag sell to a larger market, therefore works expected to have a broader appeal are published there, which in turn encourages a wider reader base.

I would also not be surprised if quite a few of the voters choosing "male and seinen" actually read more shounen but don't realise it. For instance, you get a lot of younger readers thinking stuff like Death Note is seinen, when it's actually shounen.

Picked Shounen because the releases I look forward to right now are mostly Shounen, such as One Piece, Shingeki no Kyojin, and Ruler of the Land.

Prison School would be an exception.

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You're right to some extent.
I imagine the female readership for Jump is an order of magnitude larger than male readership of Margaret. In addition, Jump caters to it's female readership somewhat with works like Prince of Tennis (Is there a single straight male that actually followed it?), whereas Margaret does nothing to attract male readers. And though some of its series like Ore Monogatari do pick up a male following, it's always incidental rather than intentional.

However, most of the female authors I mentioned above, are either doing pure shounen (Arakawa Hiromu, Tanabe Yellow, Mizunagi Ryuu, Katou Kazue), or pure seinen (Kubo Mitsurou, Mori Kaoru) with very little cross gender appeal.

Betsuma did well with Ore Monogatari!! as it is a shonen manga filtered though a shoujo lens (just look at one of the crossovers or the latest cover). X and Banana Fish did similar things when they turned seinen themes into "shoujo" so such things do happen.
Big male demographic series though are usually mass market publications. SJ or Sunday are read by all yet female targeted magazines are usually branded with a "chick flick" stamp for a lack of a better term and they don´t do much about that.

The female readers i see in RL have zero problems picking up male targeted manga in book shops or my library but the other way around is a bit unusual. I wonder how many of my female customers know that Madoka is targeted at adult men and not them as i never lend out a copy of the manga version to a male reader in my time at the service desk...
Female targeted manga are normally presented as speciality publications and male ones aren´t is all i am trying to say or the bestseller charts would look differently.
What actually bugs me is that female targeted anime borderline became a rare breed while the number of produced shows exploded over the last few years. Very few last past the 26 eps. or even 13 eps. mark too.
Forgot: The mentioned MORI Kaoru is the definition of cross demographic appeal and good female targeted manga are all sorts of things but "rare as an unicorn" they are not. They just don´t sell that well when compared (and moe is a seinen phenomenon).

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I'm male and mostly read moe-type Seinen.

There should be poll options for yaoi and yuri though, since I'm sure all the fujoshis not voting is distorting the results.

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I'm female and I prefer Seinen.
I feel like seinen can be a lot more mature than shounen/shoujo with it's story and even with it's art style. Josei is good too but I've noticed it's really hard to find a josei that I would say I enjoy reading, the plot usually turns out too weak for my taste.
So seinen all the way. Plot in seinen can be often more thought provoking and have a more deeper and realistic stories than shounen could ever have and it's also more brutal in many ways(not just violence). But it's expected as shounen is mainly targeted towards younger audience, so it often tries to be more flashy and hip rather than honest.
That being said i don't really mind the genre as long as the story is interesting and "original" enough. I've just found more unique and different types of mangas in the seinen genre as it's not as linear as the other genres are. If it's your standard shounen/shoujo series that doesn't nothing but copy from other works and doesn't even try to be original with it's characters or content then I'll pass.

Odd assumption to make...and also it'd be weird to add since yaoi and yuri aren't demographics. The poll isn't asking for preferred genre, it's preferred demographic and everyone should answer that question unless they have no preference. It'd be interesting to have a no preference option though.

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good female targeted manga are all sorts of things but "rare as an unicorn" they are not. They just don´t sell that well when compared (and moe is a seinen phenomenon)

I can't think of more than a handful really good female targeted manga; Nodame Cantabile, Usagi Drop (discounting its vile ending), Honey and Clover, Gokusen, Kuragehime and Natsume Yuujinchou. Whereas I could make a list as long as my arm of great "true" shounen and seinen titles.
Kimi wa Petto, Paradise Kiss, Nana, Chihayafuru, Mars, Bitter Virgin, Fruits Basket and Sakamichi No Apollon are often mentioned, but they're all rather mediocre pieces when compared to the whole.

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MORI Kaoru is the definition of cross demographic appeal and good female targeted manga

I'll give you Emma and Shirley, but Otoyomegatari is the very definition of seinen, and the only women interested in Anything and Something and her short pieces for Fellows! would be lesbians.

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Odd assumption to make...and also it'd be weird to add since yaoi and yuri aren't demographics. The poll isn't asking for preferred genre, it's preferred demographic and everyone should answer that question unless they have no preference. It'd be interesting to have a no preference option though.

What should you vote if you mainly read yaoi or yuri then? It's not among the options, obviously.

Besides, the poll itself conflates demographic and genre. You naturally can't prefer a demographic, since you either belong to that demographic or not.

Also yaoi (or BL) is targeted at females. Yuri (GL) could be split in yuri targeted at females and yuri targeted at males.

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Even if you read mainly yaoi or yuri, it's not all, meaning you read manga that have a specific demographic and therefore would have a preference or none at all. And if you did read only yaoi/yuri, then your preference would be the target demographic of that yaoi/yuri.

I'll admit that the way the question and answers are worded it can seem like the poll conflates demographic and genre, but that's all on how users interpret it. If we keep it strictly preferences of manga targeted at a certain demo, then it should be fine. And you can even naturally prefer a demographic if you're talking genders and whatnot because hey, it's not all binary.

As you've said, yaoi is targeted at females so the demographic would either be shoujo or josei, but because users have this idea of what shoujo and josei is outside of demographics polls like this don't work out all the time.

To me, this is a poll about the target demographic of the manga you like to read, not a poll about genres.

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I thought we had this poll before...Anyway, I'm female and prefer Seinen. I love darker plots and mature themes that don't necessarily need to include romance.

Female/Josei -- I went with that because Comic Zero-Sum (which is a Josei magazine) tends to dominate what I am reading, have read, going to read and just plain wish was scanlated. This is the magazine that published +C: Sword and Cornett, 07-Ghost, Are You Alice?, Saiyuki Reloaded and a bunch of other manga that titles I wouldn't accuse of being very girly... even if the magazine covers tend to all be pretty in a non-flowerly sort of way with pretty characters, but there's quite a bit of action going on but no gore.

Although if I was to rate my demographic preferences in general, it would be Josei, Shounen, Seinen and Shoujo.

Seinen would be higher on my preference list except that I keep running into lots of violence/gore and/or ecchi, when I prefer Seinen titles like Emma and Chi's Sweet Home... for some reason, I really like Seinen when it comes to romance and cat. My violence/gore tolerance level doesn't really exceed what you'd find in either Gunnm or Vinland Saga.

Josei is kinda rare in comparison to the rest. A lot less publishers.