Quote from shadow skill
Who said anything about those five or six people in his inner circle being equals? It's not a question of superiority or inferiority but a question of uniqueness. Though I think the Emperor looks at things based on the idea of superiority versus inferiority he is absolutely correct when he says that humans are not created equal. If everyone is different they most certainly cannot be truly equal at the same time. Everything at this point is going to hinge on what Schnizel does, and how he does it.
Now the writers are free to do whatever they like and reduce things to the six or so main cast members, but it would be kind of silly in my opinion. They have managed to avoid fucking things up like alot of these shows and I would like for that trend to continue. Let's all pray they don't make the show degenerate into a Gundam Seed like clusterfuck of sheer idiocy.
Now the writers are free to do whatever they like and reduce things to the six or so main cast members, but it would be kind of silly in my opinion. They have managed to avoid fucking things up like alot of these shows and I would like for that trend to continue. Let's all pray they don't make the show degenerate into a Gundam Seed like clusterfuck of sheer idiocy.
It seems more that the makeup will look like this than 5-6 cast members vs. Britannia or some such nonsense
UN v. Schneizel (full scale war)
Lelouch v. Charles (personal vendetta)
There's nothing that suggests Lelouch will wage full scale battles, but he does seem to be separated and achieving different goals. The Emperor has a comparable number of confidants who know the truth of Geass and the like, so it wouldn't really be all that one-sided. Don't expect some Jesus Yamato-style intervention where Lelouch destroys both sides entirely- but Lelouch will probably no longer have a continous effect on the fate of the world. His work as Zero is probably done. It's possible that he's reinstated somewhere in 20-25, but I oon't really see a reason for it.
EDIT 1:
Summaries for 18-20 are out, further confirming those spoilers and my correctness.
Spoilered for paraphrased premise and implications
Spoiler (highlight to view)
18- The Second Decisive Battle for Tokyo
-Schneizel knows who Lelouch is (we know from the Korean blog spoilers that this is a result of Lelouch and Suzaku's meeting, and that he releases it to the world)
-Guren 8directions type participates in the battle for tokyo.
-This episode was previously titled "flash of freya" indicating once more that Nina's bomb goes off.
19- Betrayal and Siblings
-A Britannian envoy visits the Ikaruga. As the summary for the next episode will indicate momentarily, this envoy is visting for the purpose of, as the spoilers stated, the Black Knights giving Lelouch to the Emperor in exchange for liberating Japan.
20- Emperor Assassination
-Rollo helped Lelouch escape his predicament in 19 (the spoilers indicate that Rollo will stop Schneizel's men and the Black Knights from capturing Lelouch by overusing his Geass. Naturally, it's fatal.)
-Lelouch resolves that there is only one further path he can take (presumably killing the Emperor, based on the title).
So yeah, blog spoilers are true. Black Knights will betray Lelouch, Cornelia will escape and visit Schneizel, then presumably change sides with the Glaston knights (Guilford apparently will "go the path of Orange"), Nunnally's fate will be unknown, Kallen will choose Lelouch over the Black Knights, and CC will get a ring from Lelouch. The others have all been at least half-proven already, and more will be proven by the end of next episode. Not to mention all of the correct mech info given by him- expect the Emperor to have a flagship named the "Great Britannia" in the near future, in addition to a modified Siegfried and mini-Gawains for all of the Glaston Knights.
-Schneizel knows who Lelouch is (we know from the Korean blog spoilers that this is a result of Lelouch and Suzaku's meeting, and that he releases it to the world)
-Guren 8directions type participates in the battle for tokyo.
-This episode was previously titled "flash of freya" indicating once more that Nina's bomb goes off.
19- Betrayal and Siblings
-A Britannian envoy visits the Ikaruga. As the summary for the next episode will indicate momentarily, this envoy is visting for the purpose of, as the spoilers stated, the Black Knights giving Lelouch to the Emperor in exchange for liberating Japan.
20- Emperor Assassination
-Rollo helped Lelouch escape his predicament in 19 (the spoilers indicate that Rollo will stop Schneizel's men and the Black Knights from capturing Lelouch by overusing his Geass. Naturally, it's fatal.)
-Lelouch resolves that there is only one further path he can take (presumably killing the Emperor, based on the title).
So yeah, blog spoilers are true. Black Knights will betray Lelouch, Cornelia will escape and visit Schneizel, then presumably change sides with the Glaston knights (Guilford apparently will "go the path of Orange"), Nunnally's fate will be unknown, Kallen will choose Lelouch over the Black Knights, and CC will get a ring from Lelouch. The others have all been at least half-proven already, and more will be proven by the end of next episode. Not to mention all of the correct mech info given by him- expect the Emperor to have a flagship named the "Great Britannia" in the near future, in addition to a modified Siegfried and mini-Gawains for all of the Glaston Knights.
EDIT 2:
Behold, episode 16 summary. This episode was surprisingly filled with a ton of win, including a ton of my personal favorite (Anya). Oh, and new CC is absurdly moe.
Spoiler (highlight to view)
A ton of important facts, so I'll just list them.
-The Emperor initially disappears.
-Lelouch still has his Geass.
-Lelouch meets with Cornelia. She asks him what he's going to do with his power, and he answers that he's just going to save his younger sister.
-CC doesn't remember anything, but still loves pizza.
-Lelouch promises never to hurt CC.
-Anya has diary entries from a time she doesn't remember- and some of them don't match up with her own memories. Apparently she was Geassed by the Emperor, but the reason for that is still unknown.
-Kallen beats up Suzaku (I know a ton of people will be thrilled by this).
-Knights of 10 and 1 show up. The Knight of 10 is apparently the "Vampire of Britannia" and is a skilled assassin.
-Knight of 10 confronts Kallen. Gino inexplicably defends her (what!? GinoxKallen? Having even 1 hint of it is odd.)
-Lloyd indeed played around with the Guren. Cecile said it was their hobby, but I think the manner of speech was indicating it as some sort of fetish (not great with that sort of Japanese for obvious reasons)
-Orange calls Guilford (who actually calls him Orenji-kun).
-For those who care about minor characters, Chiba basically says she's going to confess to Todou after the battle.
-The United Nations are formed and resolve to liberate Japan (duh.) Zero is put in primary control, with Xing-ke as his second in command (I only think this- I can't read kanji very well)
-The Emperor reappears and basically declares that he will conquer all opposition. A massive battle for Japan approaches.
-Lelouch is totally unnerved. He keeps running through different scenarios under which he can still save Nunnally (he rejects them one after another, including revealing his identity as Lelouch vi Britannia because "The Black Knights would betray him".
-CC welcomes him back (she seems to trust him after he gives her pizza), but Lelouch totally snaps at her after she offers the leftover pizza to him, shattering the plate and cutting her ring finger. Lelouch understandably freaks and apologizes. He realizes that such things were an ordinary occurrence for her, and becomes so disturbed he starts shaking. She asks him if he was cold. Anyway, he basically asks her what he can possibly do in this situation, and her answer is "rely on your friends" (she mentions how she doesn't have any sort of dishearteningly).
-As a result, Lelouch calls Suzaku, who asks him if he is Zero point blank. Lelouch reveals his identity and begs Suzaku to save Nunnally. Suzaku asks Lelouch to meet him. End episode.
-I may have missed a resolution scene between Viletta and Ougi (I was watching a live stream), but Ougi is still alive, in any case.
Obviously, pretty big episode. New batch of predictions:
-CC's ring-bandaid may be replaced by a real ring. Regardlessm she's clearly the person that "comforted him" in Shirley's place (this was mentioned on Shirley's official character page. CC seems to be able to calm him down).
-KallenxGino? Regardless of whether or not CC dies in the end, LelouchxCC is slowly becoming canon, so are they going to randomly pair off Kallen after two scenes? Seems kind of weird, but I can't think of another explanation for that scene at the moment.
-Anya was geassed for one of two reasons. Either (a), she knows why Marianne died, or (b) She's Lelouch's sister. Although I like b better, a seems more likely since that would dig into the plot a bit more thoroughly. She seems to be remembering bits and pieces after her clash with CC in episode 11, anyway.
-Anti-Zero rebellion will occur soon. Asahina no longer trusts him either, it's only a matter of time until it blows. Since the spoilers still indicate the correctness of that statement, 19 is the most likely time.
-Rivalz may suddenly stop trusting Lelouch when he learns his identity. I actually think his reaction will by far be the most interesting one.
-Nina won't die in the explosion, even though Lloyd said she would if Suzaku used it.
-The Emperor initially disappears.
-Lelouch still has his Geass.
-Lelouch meets with Cornelia. She asks him what he's going to do with his power, and he answers that he's just going to save his younger sister.
-CC doesn't remember anything, but still loves pizza.
-Lelouch promises never to hurt CC.
-Anya has diary entries from a time she doesn't remember- and some of them don't match up with her own memories. Apparently she was Geassed by the Emperor, but the reason for that is still unknown.
-Kallen beats up Suzaku (I know a ton of people will be thrilled by this).
-Knights of 10 and 1 show up. The Knight of 10 is apparently the "Vampire of Britannia" and is a skilled assassin.
-Knight of 10 confronts Kallen. Gino inexplicably defends her (what!? GinoxKallen? Having even 1 hint of it is odd.)
-Lloyd indeed played around with the Guren. Cecile said it was their hobby, but I think the manner of speech was indicating it as some sort of fetish (not great with that sort of Japanese for obvious reasons)
-Orange calls Guilford (who actually calls him Orenji-kun).
-For those who care about minor characters, Chiba basically says she's going to confess to Todou after the battle.
-The United Nations are formed and resolve to liberate Japan (duh.) Zero is put in primary control, with Xing-ke as his second in command (I only think this- I can't read kanji very well)
-The Emperor reappears and basically declares that he will conquer all opposition. A massive battle for Japan approaches.
-Lelouch is totally unnerved. He keeps running through different scenarios under which he can still save Nunnally (he rejects them one after another, including revealing his identity as Lelouch vi Britannia because "The Black Knights would betray him".
-CC welcomes him back (she seems to trust him after he gives her pizza), but Lelouch totally snaps at her after she offers the leftover pizza to him, shattering the plate and cutting her ring finger. Lelouch understandably freaks and apologizes. He realizes that such things were an ordinary occurrence for her, and becomes so disturbed he starts shaking. She asks him if he was cold. Anyway, he basically asks her what he can possibly do in this situation, and her answer is "rely on your friends" (she mentions how she doesn't have any sort of dishearteningly).
-As a result, Lelouch calls Suzaku, who asks him if he is Zero point blank. Lelouch reveals his identity and begs Suzaku to save Nunnally. Suzaku asks Lelouch to meet him. End episode.
-I may have missed a resolution scene between Viletta and Ougi (I was watching a live stream), but Ougi is still alive, in any case.
Obviously, pretty big episode. New batch of predictions:
-CC's ring-bandaid may be replaced by a real ring. Regardlessm she's clearly the person that "comforted him" in Shirley's place (this was mentioned on Shirley's official character page. CC seems to be able to calm him down).
-KallenxGino? Regardless of whether or not CC dies in the end, LelouchxCC is slowly becoming canon, so are they going to randomly pair off Kallen after two scenes? Seems kind of weird, but I can't think of another explanation for that scene at the moment.
-Anya was geassed for one of two reasons. Either (a), she knows why Marianne died, or (b) She's Lelouch's sister. Although I like b better, a seems more likely since that would dig into the plot a bit more thoroughly. She seems to be remembering bits and pieces after her clash with CC in episode 11, anyway.
-Anti-Zero rebellion will occur soon. Asahina no longer trusts him either, it's only a matter of time until it blows. Since the spoilers still indicate the correctness of that statement, 19 is the most likely time.
-Rivalz may suddenly stop trusting Lelouch when he learns his identity. I actually think his reaction will by far be the most interesting one.
-Nina won't die in the explosion, even though Lloyd said she would if Suzaku used it.
Last edited by Crenshinibon at 2:05 am, Jul 27 2008
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