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I say Air Gear is borderline Seinen. They should just go all the way, so they can go even farther. 😀

air gear deserves a genre of its own. something stupid. oh!great should just turn it into a hentai - its the only thing he's good at

Death Note is definitely not seinen. But I'd say Zetsubou Sensei and JoJo's Adventure should be a seinen manga. I don't see how those two got into Weekly shounen jump.

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Death Note is definitely not seinen. But I'd say Zetsubou Sensei and JoJo's Adventure should be a seinen manga. I don't see how those two got into Weekly shounen jump.

Actually, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei is on Weekly Shonen Magazine

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Could someone explain me why XBlade isn´t Seinen enough ? The story may follow the basis Shounen formula but the manga is basically a less "mature" Tenjou Tenge (bah). Would it be that difficult to publish this one in a Seinen manga ?
The Eva manga is another case. I get it that it is published in a mature "Shonen" magazine but Seinen could easily fit the bill.
Look up Akita Shoten´s crap if you want to see how easily the lines between Shounen and R18 manga can blur as they don´t shy away from incest,dildos, pre-teen lesbians and whatnot. Retailers in Japan regularly confuse their finished takabon with "real" porn and are putting them in the R18 section next to the artists´s "pure hentai" works. Here is an example: [url]http://akibablog.net/archives/2008/07/50701139.html[/url] I wonder why 🤨 .
Putting furigana of the kanji may label a work Shounen and but many just don´t fit the bill... KidZ publication sell better though so the insanity will go on.
Edit: Eva was now moved up to Seinen thank to the new magazine. Aha.

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Death Note is definitely not seinen. But I'd say Zetsubou Sensei and JoJo's Adventure should be a seinen manga. I don't see how those two got into Weekly shounen jump.

No, Death Note is definitely Shonen. Its just slightly more mature than the kind've stuff you usually expect from modern Shonen manga.

what i wanna know is if akumetsu is shounen or seinen. even in japan, some of my friends couldent agree. it did run in shounen champion, but i see it as seinen

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what i wanna know is if akumetsu is shounen or seinen. even in japan, some of my friends couldent agree. it did run in shounen champion, but i see it as seinen

If it ran in a shounen magazine, then it's shounen. Simple as that. People have the false impression that "seinen" automatically means something is more intelligent and mature, but this isn't necessarily true.

Death Note is very Shonen just a bit darker than usual.Or todays Jump if it ran back in 1990 people would say oh Jump has another cool series.They wouldn't be SEINEN DARK.
I could tell you how its very Shonen but it might ruin Shonen for you and Weekly Jump series in general these days if I tell you.

Weekly Jump use to be more mature more manly.
City Hunter,Jojo's Bizarre Adventure,Rokudenashi Blues,Fist Of The North Star,Video Girl Ai and some others wouldn't even likely be allowed in Weekly Shonen Jump these days.

Weekly Jump has got soft,and more lighthearted over the last 10 years.
Their sales also plummeted hard after many big series ended in the 1990s.
Rurouni Kenshin got much hate from Weekly Readers during the Jinchu arc for being so dark.
So maybe its just the new generation of young punks making Shonen so tame.
And making the age of characters younger and younger you don't even have an adult man as a main character for Shonen anymore.

Shonen Sunday and Shonen Magazine are more relaxed though compared to Weekly Jump.
Monthly Shonen magazines are even more relaxed than their weekly counterparts.

Maybe the other thing is for a long time everything ran in Shonen Magazines especially the 70's and 80's you have to have some extreme violence and sex to not be in a Shonen publication and more Seinen publications were created.

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If it ran in a shounen magazine, then it's shounen. Simple as that. People have the false impression that "seinen" automatically means something is more intelligent and mature, but this isn't necessarily true.

Exactly.
But even then some things are still Shonen.
Even though they moved to Seinen publications.

Gantz might be in a Shonen magazine if it was the 70's or 80's.

Well, JoJo is in a seinen magazine so that one I guess the author/publisher agrees that it's isn't really a shounen manga.

I'll be honest and admit that a few of the things mentioned here I never looked at, but I had assumed they weren't what they are.

JoJo was in Weekly Jump for 80 volumes.
The entire series.

Steel Ball Run is in the magazine it is now because it doesn't come out Weekly and that leaves room for another series for Weekly Jump.
Its also just like Stone Ocean not popular but it won't be canceled but it ran in Weekly Jump for awhile.
Stone Ocean volume 64-80 wasn't popular in Weekly Jump it was always in towards the back.It wouldn't be canceled but it wasn't a favorite among the new Jump generation.
Its more popular in the actual volume releases.
Most of its fans don't buy Weekly Jump anymore they just buy the volumes they probably don't even read a Weekly magazine anymore.
I'd say only hardcore Jojo fans would buy a magazine for it most of its fans just wait for the volume release.
You gotta remember Weekly Jump in 1990s went from 6 million buyers a week to 2 million in 2000's.
Many Weekly readers went away.

1 Some manga fans only read the Weekly Mags and buy some volumes.

2. Some manga fans never buy weekly releases and only buy the volumes of series.

Jojo is still shonen its just better for Shueisha to let another series run in back of Weekly Jump to be canceled.
Jojo's sales is in the volumes not magazine version.

Options I would pick have already been posted though I'll suggest Bio-Meat: Nectar.

It does have a shonen feel --- we see the children grow up and such. There isn't that much gore in it at all but there are some heavy subjects and themes in the manga.

Can you imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie?

Deathnote?

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Spriggan.

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People have the false impression that "seinen" automatically means something is more intelligent and mature, but this isn't necessarily true.

Thats the point guys... thats also why death note is not "definitely" somehting yout try to put it in... However I would count it as seinen.

Same goes for Triage X or Tista. Besides I aggree with Ominae on Spriggan.

Why do people keep saying Death Note? There is nothing mature about it. It follows standard shonen guidlines, to see this you just have to think about the say the story progresses and what each character brings to the table. Pretty similar to Naruto (and co) no?

That being said, I could see Zetsubou Sensei as a seinen. Many jokes will go over the heads of the younger children