This poll has been born after many hours of thinking: I can't find a single way to define mangas that have been forced to end.
I usually edited the "Status in Country of Origin" box replacing "Completed" with "Discontinued" and this was working for many months without any change: though, after some months, I found confusion on the matter because some users didn't understand the definition of "Discontinued" (maybe because it has a similar meaning to "On Hold") and started to replace "Discontinued" with "Completed" and adding the category "Rushed Ending/Axed".
But I think that this last definition is way more confusing than the old one because it puts in the same category the mangas that have been "Axed" by external events (the publisher decided that the manga was not more remunerative, readers lost interest in it, etc) with mangas that have a not satisfying ending ("Rushed Ending") and that I believe to have a more subjective meaning that an objective one.

Here is the question:
Should we all replace "Completed" with "Discontinued" (or Complete/Discontinued), leave "Completed" using the category "Rushed Ending/Axed", split the category in "Rushed Ending" and "Axed", or what?

I'm open to any kind of suggestion and I hope with this poll to put an end on this matter because it is useless to make any correction if someone then change them.

They're complete. The ending might not be any good, but it's not a matter of that. It's either complete, ongoing or on a Hiatus.

Discontinued is used for series like Yoo Ah Dok-Jon or Itazura na Kiss where it's never completed due to circumstances like author's death.

Rushed endings like Mx0 still merit the completed tag since it's still an ending nonetheless.

Hiatus works for titles on hold that the author plans to come back to like Berserk.

This is what has always been done and we're not really big on changing that.

@kaloo: I don't agree with you: for me a manga is "Completed" if the author "Completed" it without being forced; I think cases like forced and non forced should be split.

@blakraven66: With your definition (I don't know if it is the one of the forum or not) you mix mangas completed and forcefully completed: if I search in the database I'd like to differentiate these mangas and don't start one that then ends abruptly.

@DarkBdBB: Instead of putting a differentiation under the 'Status in Country of Origin' section, there is a Rushed Ending/Axed Category.

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@Darb: The problem with that category, as said, is that it is not objective: Rushed Ending/Axed, for me, means to vote if "you" consider the manga complete or not, instead what I want to add/define is if the manga has been forced to end or not, that is completely different.
For me, if a manga has been forced or not influence the decision to read it or not, because a forced one is more prone to have a Rushed Ending.
For me the definitions should be:
discontinued: a manga that has been forced to end due to publisher decisions
complete: the manga ended naturally without any external influences
incomplete: the author could not end the manga (death, became incapacitated, etc)
on hold: serialization of manga in paused and should continue

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@Darb: The problem with that category, as said, is that it is not objective: Rushed Ending/Axed, for me, means to vote if "you" consider the manga complete or not, instead what I want to add/define is if the manga has been forced to end or not, that is completely different.
For me, if a manga has been forced or not influence the decision to read it or not, because a forced one is more prone to have a Rushed Ending.
For me the definitions should be:
discontinued: a manga that has been forced to end due to publisher decisions
complete: the manga ended naturally without any external influences
incomplete: the author could not end the manga (death, became incapacitated, etc)
on hold: serialization of manga in paused and should continue

The elves seem to have already spoken on this one, the system is in place, and a methodology is available for you to distinguish between the two without overcomplicating things.

You can argue about subjectivity all you want, but someone could just as easily find a mandated ending satisfying and never notice. That is how a good writer would deal with the problem, after all.

Besides, the majority end with a publisher approval and/or ultimatum, so you're really just complaining about the instances when it's done badly.

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@Crenshinibon: I'm not discussing about if an end is satisfying or not, but if a manga has been stopped or not before its conclusion: a mangaka plans a story and then draws it, if the publisher then says that he/she has to end it in 3 chapters then it means that the story is not complete.
I'm not speaking about a subjectivity ending but the objectivity one: the story was stopped abruptly so for me the production of the manga has been "Discontinued" not completed.
The Rushed or not Rushed Ending is subjective but Axed is not, for this reason I put a poll, to see if there are other people that think like me.

P.S. Now I noticed some series that are labeled "Ongoing": their serialization ended but their last volumes are yet to be published; shouldn't they be labeled completed?

Here a request to a mod: since it seems that I couldn't explain my question and poll in the correct way, please reset it and edit the poll's message
"How do you define a manga serialization that has been forcefully stopped? forcefully:= the author has been forced, by not natural events, to stop his manga"
with
"What should be written in the "Status in Country of Origin" box if a manga serialization has been forcefully stopped? forcefully:= the author has been forced, by not natural events, to stop his manga"
removing Axed and Rushed Ending options (the last 3).
My problem is what should be written in the "Status in Country of Origin" box and I believe that many users think that should be written "Discontinued" in this cases, for this reason I created a poll; for the "Rushed Ending/Axed" category I will open a new topic (after this has been edited).

Is this a theoretical problem? The system for this we have now is simple and straightforward. You're over complicating things. Why not just come up with a category tag for this, and be on your merry way? (Or you could suggest that the "Rushed Ending/Axed" tag be split, because that seems to be your biggest issue.)

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P.S. Now I noticed some series that are labeled "Ongoing": their serialization ended but their last volumes are yet to be published; shouldn't they be labeled completed?

No, because the "status in country of origin" refers to the number of printed volumes. (Unless there are none.)

Edit: I just realized that I sound like a total jerk in this post. It wasn't meant that way at all, Dark, and I hope you won't take it that way.

@deathbypenguin: Don't worry, we are only discussing.
About "status in country of origin", if it is how you say, shouldn't it be "volumes status in country of origin" ?
And I agree that it could make things harder, but if you had to see a picture in a museum, wouldn't you like to know if it is "Completed", "Discontinued" (no more financed), "Incomplete" (author died) or had a "Rushed Ending"?

I've actually used (Incomplete) on occasion, as (Discontinued) does not allow the "Complete list" link under the List Stats section.

It's more of a fudged fix on my part.

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@Toto: Another problem is that is not possible to search with multiple categories and put some range to them: I mean, we can vote categories but there is no way to filter them.
The "Rushed Ending/Axed" is useful thanks to the votes, but I have no way to use it to filter my searches... I'd like to search for series, for example, that have at least 60% (or more) of negative vote to that category so to filter Incomplete/Discontinued series...
I have 2 solution: 1) split the category "Rushed Ending/Axed" because 1 does not imply the other (Double Arts was Axed but I remember a "satisfying" and not Rushed Ending); 2) Use Discontinued.
I suggest both with the following definitions for "Status in Country of Origin"

discontinued: a manga that has been forced to end due to publisher decisions
complete: the manga ended naturally without any external influences
incomplete: the author could not end the manga (death, became incapacitated, etc)
on hold: serialization of manga in paused and should continue

And for "Completed" I mean that weekly (monthly, bi-weekly, etc) serialization ended, not the volumes releases.

And for "Completed" I mean that weekly (monthly, bi-weekly, etc) serialization ended, not the volumes releases.

No. Any series that has that happen will be reversed and locked until the volume is released.

on hold: serialization of manga in paused and should continue

No. Hiatus only.

Dividing "Rushed Ending/Axed" may be considered... it may not.
One normally invokes the other, as in there's only a very few exceptions.
So, I personally don't see the need.

a manga that has been forced to end due to publisher decisions

the author could not end the manga

That means the publisher still had to discontinue it anyways. So, there's no need for a differentiation between the two. UNLESS they chose to have another author finish it; in which case, the series would be Ongoing.

Also, don't ask me about any changes other than the name of the category. I don't do coding.

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I've actually used (Incomplete) on occasion, as (Discontinued) does not allow the "Complete list" link under the List Stats section.

It's more of a fudged fix on my part.

What do you mean by this?

Complete
Ongoing
Discontinued
Hiatus

That's it. No more. No less.

Complete only applies once the final volume has been published. Otherwise it is still considered Ongoing.

Discontinued only should apply if the author died or if the author suddenly stopped writing for some reason. If there is ANY kind of ending to it, then it's considered Complete.

Hiatus is for if they stopped working on it for a while but mean to get back to it (a little subjective, but oh well...)

None of this rushed ending or axed stuff.

(And yes, I'm double posting. But too bad)

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