It really is a flamefest. I don't mind that other people find it okay, because that's them and I'm me. But because I disagree, they all want to jump on me for saying what I think. But them attacking me like that is entertaining. Why do they feel the need to? Because it won't change my mind xD

I hadn't really fully read all comments, but now I went back to check what the refered to reply to takeva was (and takeva's original comment), so as to better understand the issues at hand, and...

Quote from takeva

I don't get what grown adults find attractive about children.

I don't get what people find attractive about ballet, opera, sport "fencing", aikido, cheer leading...

Edit: I somewhat misunderstood a certain statement. Re-reading it, it was not really that wrong, so I removed that bit.

Quote from takeva

ROFL yes my list tells you SO MUCH about me~! I can tell you I stopped reading a lot of those manga and I add it to my list so I know I've either read or attempted to read it so I wouldn't come across it again. There are other reason but seriously, would you believe me? No

Of course I don't believe you.
The list I checked was your reading list.
Not "unfinished" (where you put series you quit reading) or "on hold".
Reading.
I do not appreciate lies. Dishonesty is a thing I find to be extremely disgusting.

LOL but I never asked you to reply to my comment! I don't even get why you felt the need to reply to it in the first place.

lol my reading list xD gawd you people just figured me all out, huh?

The Tezuka Osamu Award for Excellence winning Berserk has sexualization of children ? What 😔 ?

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Quote from takeva

But them attacking me like that is entertaining.

I sense a troll...

Why do they feel the need to?

Having a moral sense?

Because it won't change my mind xD

Ah.
So you admit that you are incapable of changing or leaning, in any way.
I don't really know of any insult I could fling at you, that would be worse than what you have just said of yourself.

Will it help if I told you I don't really use those features "On hold/Unfinished"? Would I look better in your eyes if I told you that?

Please say yes? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!

I sense a troll...

Yes.

Having a moral sense?

Yes...

Ah.
So you admit that you are incapable of changing or leaning, in any way.
I don't really know of any insult I could fling at you, that would be worse than what you have just said of yourself.

Yes?

You know everything!

Quote from takeva

LOL but I never asked you to reply to my comment!

You posted a comment on a public forum.
Why on earth did you think that you were entitled to being able to make a comment (especially a controversial one, where you also say some highly offensive things), without getting backlash?

I don't even get why you felt the need to reply to it in the first place.

Yeah, why do people bother to speak out against moral wrongs?
...
rolls eyes

lol my reading list xD gawd you people just figured me all out, huh?

Unless the list is a lie, it does reveal that you are reading several works that sexualize children.

Quote from takeva

Yes.

Having a moral sense?

Yes...

Ah.
So you admit that you are incapable of changing or leaning, in any way.
I don't really know of any insult I could fling at you, that would be worse than what you have just said of yourself.

Yes?

You know everything!

...
I shall heed the ancient wisdom: "Don't feed the trolls"
I shall not bother to respond to you anymore

No the list is true. Just not in the sense you believe but whatever. I have no problem with you guys responding back. I'll just continue to back. I never said you guys were wrong wrong wrong and this is why you're wrong! I'm trying to understand why you all try to feel you know what kind of person I am through my responses and my list and tell me I'm wrong and because I don't agree with you, you keep on insisting. So I'll just continue until I or you understand that we can't agree on anything. xD

Smart.

Btw, I'll vote for no/no. Not because I like it, or okay with people doing loli/shota. It just, I respect the freedom of expression. Well...at least in some countries where there is an absolute freedom of expression. Which is not many.

Japan, as one of the most perverted county in the world, has proven itself by having one of the world lowest number in sex crime (and one of the lowest birth rate surprise surprise). It's probably because of the easy access to pornography of any kind, hence providing the means, to relief themselves just by "that". Since it's only fictionalized character, you could argue it's kind of the necessary evil.

But that being said, even with freedom of expression and my above reason, there's nothing to stop the society from making fun of lolicon/shotacon, or warn their friends and family about the lolicon/shotacon in real life. So there's that.

It's very obvious that these people do need professional help. And here's the fact. If word got out in real life that these people are lolicon and shotacon, the society will shun them. I know that, you know that, they know that and people know that.

Get help.

Wow, so many comments already.

I think it should be a no for both.
Censorship is not a fun thing.
And besides, those're just drawings. Nobody's getting hurt.

Just wanted to add that those arguments stating that it promotes and encourages similar acts in real life just doesn't hold up.
Have you ever watched somebody getting killed on tv?
Read/watched torture porn?
Did you go out and do any of those?

I think most of us can tell right from wrong.
Those who can't aren't aided by fiction.

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