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Assuming that the Hinata part is true (still a bit ambiguous) she would still survive in my opinion. Only people from the "older generation" die.

And if she did die, it wouldn't necessarily be pointless. The mangaka needed a catalyst to make Naruto go into one of his rage modes, and getting Hinata hurt was the easiest way to do that. That's why some chapters before this, he showed a bit more of Hinata. That was basically a huge warning sign that Hinata was going to be used one way or the other.

And since when did naruto learn to go 6 tails? Seems the author is rushing the story doesnt it?

Not really. That may be that technique that Jiraiya was referring to in the beginning of the timeskip.


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Quote from Dr. Love

Assuming that the Hinata part is true (still a bit ambiguous) she would still survive in my opinion. Only people from the "older generation" die.

And if she did die, it wouldn't necessarily be pointless. The mangaka needed a catalyst to make Naruto go into one of his rage modes, and getting Hinata hurt was the easiest way to do that. That's why some chapters before this, he showed a bit more of Hinata. That was basically a huge warning sign that Hinata was going to be used one way or the other.

And since when did naruto learn to go 6 tails? Seems the author is rushing the story doesnt it?

Not really. That may be that technique that Jiraiya was referring to in the beginning of the timeskip.

Lets hope you are right. Then again so far no one from the new generation died yet, so lets hope the don't start dying now.


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Quote from Dr. Love

Assuming that the Hinata part is true (still a bit ambiguous) she would still survive in my opinion. Only people from the "older generation" die.

The mangaka needed a catalyst to make Naruto go into one of his rage modes, and getting Hinata hurt was the easiest way to do that.

Sakura would be a better choice than Hinata. She doesn't contribute anything to the storyline. Think about it:

When Sakura was hurt against Gaara during the Chuunin exams, Naruto was fighting because he was trying to protect his friends. Sasuke was hurt as well, so if Sakura was taken out, he would still be fighting for a friend.

When Sasuke left and Sakura begged Naruto to bring back Sasuke, Naruto left to go get him. If Sakura was taken out, Naruto still would've gone to get back Sasuke because at this point Naruto thought of Sasuke as a brother and they both respected each other, even if they hated each other.

And when Sakura was fighting against Sasori, she wasn't really fighting because Chiyo used her like another of her puppets and in the end Chiyo defeated Sasori anyway with those puppets he first made. If Sakura was taken out, Temari could've taken her place, because she wasn't doing ANYTHING while Gaara was gone, and it would've been better because she would've been avenging her brother by doing this.

With Hinata, she made Naruto want to defeat Neji even more because of what happened to those two with the Hyuuga Bloodline story. If you tried to take Hinata out and use another existing character, then you'd have to erase the whole Hyuuga Bloodine story and Neji would just be another 2D pompous asshole character.

tl;dr Hinata needs to live and Sakura needs to die because there are very good reason why she's useless to the storyline.


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Um... Temari uses iron fan, it would be useless against the 3rd kazekage puppet. I don't even think Chiyo-temari combination would able to beat the first puppet since its offense and defense type. Not to mention Temari would be easily poison and chiyo would be a sitting duck.
I agree with you that she was useless in the first part, but in second part she is pretty useful. Her medical skills and super strength makes her a vital part of the team, so don't you dare say that she should die. No new generation should die in my opinion.


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Admit it, Loose. You just like Hinata more: period. 😛

Anyways no, Sakura wouldn't be a better choice because it is likely that Kishimoto already has other plans for Sakura. Like calming the enraged Naruto again or some sort... maybe stop Danzou (and Sai?) with his mischievous plan.

Also like yuriym21 said, Sakura would've been perfect for Chiyo. She has a super strong attack, plus she could defend herself from the poison (she made some antidotes prior to the fight).


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And since when did naruto learn to go 6 tails? Seems the author is rushing the story doesnt it? Wonder if he is able to control the 6 tails though. And the skull is definitely looks like a rip off of Hollow from bleach.

I don't think you can learn how to go six tails. I think it's more that the seal, which was meant to subdue the Kyuubi, is weakening further than the last time Naruto (in four tailed form) fought Orochimaru.

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Assuming that the Hinata part is true (still a bit ambiguous) she would still survive in my opinion. Only people from the "older generation" die.

And if she did die, it wouldn't necessarily be pointless. The mangaka needed a catalyst to make Naruto go into one of his rage modes, and getting Hinata hurt was the easiest way to do that. That's why some chapters before this, he showed a bit more of Hinata. That was basically a huge warning sign that Hinata was going to be used one way or the other.

As for the part about Hinata, well, I think Naruto should be at a stage or level of a Sage where he can easily distinguish between someone who's only wounded and someone who's dead - probably by reading or feeling someone's amount of chakra. So if Hinata's chakra level is zero, then she is probably dead. Also, Pein is a psychopath, so he wouldn't hesistate to kill someone he even didn't know.

And for the part about Hinata as the catalyst that is needed for Naruto to go into one of his rage mode, when the dead of Jiraiya (and probably also that of Kakashi; if he really did die after all) is not enough to ignite Naruto's rage in the first place (when Jiraiya is almost a father to him), why he can go six tails now when Hinata is just someone he finds weird in the whole manga series (Naruto is such a dense guy, huh!?).

As for the skull thing, it may be somekind of seal (another one/limiter?) to limit Kyuubi's power (so Naruto can't go beyond the six tailed form?) or it's Itachi's doing to prevent Pein to catch the Kyuubi - then it's an enhancer for Naruto (when Itachi did something to Naruto the last time they met). A limiter or an enhancer?


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And for the part about Hinata as the catalyst that is needed for Naruto to go into one of his rage mode, when the dead of Jiraiya (and probably also that of Kakashi; if he really did die after all) is not enough to ignite Naruto's rage in the first place (when Jiraiya is almost a father to him), why he can go six tails now when Hinata is just someone he finds weird in the whole manga series (Naruto is such a dense guy, huh!?).

Maybe because Hinata was killed right in front of him, he felt guilty because after obtaining all this power he still wasnt able to save one of his friends....thats plenty enough reason for Naruto to go berserk


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Anyways no, Sakura wouldn't be a better choice because it is likely that Kishimoto already has other plans for Sakura. Like calming the enraged Naruto again or some sort... maybe stop Danzou (and Sai?) with his mischievous plan.

im still holding that danzo is tobi
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Aw crap, now everyone's gonna think I'm a Hinata fanboy. Doc already seems to think that. 🤣

But you all are right about Sakura being useful to Chiyo during the fight against Sasori. I was reading it over after I had logged off, and I was going to log back on and change it, but my little brother messed with the wireless router, and it took all night and almost all day today to get the settings back to normal. 🤢


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