If you had kids, would you spank them?

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Yes. I was spanked several through my childhood by my parents( but I don't have any trauma or bad memories from it) It's simply efficient way to punish child for wrong behaviour.

More clearly: little spanking - Yes, anything more than that is WRONG.

I do have kids, and I didn't/don't spank them.

#1 - How can you expect a little kid to understand & obey "no hitting" when at the same time it's ok for an adult to hit them?

#2 - There are more effective discipline strategies that do NOT involve corporal punishment. They may take a bit more thought & energy from the parent(s), but in the long term, they work better.

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yes i would, but not severely.

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I do have kids, and I didn't/don't spank them.

#1 - How can you expect a little kid to understand & obey "no hitting" when at the same time it's ok for an adult to hit them?

Because they should know that their getting because they did something wrong. Plus spanking is a bit different from spanking. Hitting would just be a hand of fist in any direction. Spank only goes to the butt and no where else.

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#2 - There are more effective discipline strategies that do NOT involve corporal punishment. They may take a bit more thought & energy from the parent(s), but in the long term, they work better.

This will also flow into my answer to this topic. Certain punishments work for certain kids. I know spanking worked perfectly well for me when I was a wee one. Though, for some kids this may not be the case.

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I do have kids, and I didn't/don't spank them.

#1 - How can you expect a little kid to understand & obey "no hitting" when at the same time it's ok for an adult to hit them?

Because they should know that their getting because they did something wrong. Plus spanking is a bit different from spanking. Hitting would just be a hand of fist in any direction. Spank only goes to the butt and no where else.

Depending on the individual child, they may or may not understand the distinction between spanking & hitting; also "hitting because they did something wrong" would quite easily lead a child to believe that if another child "did something wrong" then it would be ok to hit them. Young children's minds are quite interesting and often don't work the same way or make connections in the same way that older children's & adults' minds work.

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#2 - There are more effective discipline strategies that do NOT involve corporal punishment. They may take a bit more thought & energy from the parent(s), but in the long term, they work better.

This will also flow into my answer to this topic. Certain punishments work for certain kids. I know spanking worked perfectly well for me when I was a wee one. Though, for some kids this may not be the case.

While it's true that different discipline strategies work better for different kids, and I certainly wouldn't say that all spanking is abuse, I do truly think that there will always be some effective discipline that doesn't involve striking the child. It may take some time, creativity, and effort to find it, but it's there.
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"[English] not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary."
-James Nicoll, can.general, March 21, 1992

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I do have kids, and I didn't/don't spank them.

#1 - How can you expect a little kid to understand & obey "no hitting" when at the same time it's ok for an adult to hit them?

I have a kid(1yr old), and I disagree with you.

#1 when I was a kid if I did anything bad my parents spanked me (on the back never on my butt) but I never thought that was violence nor did I ever think that it was ok to hit others because of that.

I hit others because I got mad not particularly because they did something bad. I am not really violent, the last time I got in a fight I was 15 and that was 14 years ago and that was only the third fight in my life, not counting the fights with my sisters.

#2 I am not against kids fighting each other thats part of life. They need to learn how to show that they are angry and the easiest way to show it is through fighting that is instinctual and as they grow they find various other ways to show their anger like yelling, getting revenge, or talking about it. You can't expect a kid to deal with their anger with out any first hand experience they have to learn it step by step.

I don't even remember really being "spanked." I was always slapped across the face or sent to my room for a couple of hours. But I still vividly remember when I was maybe twelve, getting a nice pop across the face just for looking my dad in the eye. And to this day, I still have problems making eye contact.

So no, I wouldn't want my children to feel the same way I do now, flinching whenever someone raises they're hand up.

I believe NO ONE has the right to act in anyway violent to not only to a child, but to another person. It's archaic. If you don't have the ability to explain to your children how to behave without physical punishment, you don't have the right to be a parent. I mean, you are obviously not prepared for it.

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Shaggie, we are speaking about SPANKING, not SLAPPING. Slapping IS archaic indeed, spanking is uhm "actual" XD
Cmon, Shaggie "ability to explain to a child"...just lol wont ya?

Children act like little animals (till certain age, that is different from child to child). Spanking is the signal/punishment they did something badbadbad, its like more a threat that actual Physical Pain/Corporal Punishment.
I think the threat of Spanking (so at least 1 time is needed to be experienced for the child) is needed in 90% cases, else children will grow up spoiled and will do whatever they want ridiculizing the authority/control a parent MUST always have on their proper behaviour.

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That's known as a "coin".

Oh, thanks. Too much D&D.

Yes, I would.

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I don't even remember really being "spanked." I was always slapped across the face or sent to my room for a couple of hours. But I still vividly remember when I was maybe twelve, getting a nice pop across the face just for looking my dad in the eye. And to this day, I still have problems making eye contact.

So no, I wouldn't want my children to feel the same way I do now, flinching whenever someone raises they're hand up.

I believe NO ONE has the right to act in anyway violent to not only to a child, but to another person. It's archaic. If you don't have the ability to explain to your children how to behave without physical punishment, you don't have the right to be a parent. I mean, you are obviously not prepared for it.

The funny thing about the arcane- it worked in producing several generations of healthy, hard working, honest people.

Now, I currently do not have children, but when I do, I will not be opposed to corporal punishment.

If you show disrespect or mouth off, a slap works.

If you try to take something that you shouldn't, a slap on the wrist works.

If you curse, guess what? A soapy snack.

Anything more severe gets a butt whupin.

That's the way I was raised. I only needed to be told once to do what my mother/grandparents asked me to, I never disrespected them in any way shape or form, I never cursed until I was in High School, and then only at school or at sports and never in the presence of females, and I never did anything to deliberately disobey my elders BECAUSE I FEARED THE CORPORAL PUNISHMENT. One usage of corporal punishment is enough to deter bad behavior. At least until adolescence, and then stuff gets sticky.

Now, corporal punishment is also a very cultural thing. Every single minority family/person I know has experienced or employs some sort of corporal punishment. It's more effective.

But.

To each his own.

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No, I don't, because I simply don't like it and it makes other contacts to the kids a bit awkward for the kids. I rather want to hug my child when its doing good than spank it when its doing bad.

I got spanked my self when I was kid and I always thought that it was the last solution that my parents (my father) had and when I got a little older I started to take it to the limits by doing the wrong thing again right after the punishment to see if he would beat me once again. In the end he gave up.

Handslaping, could be okey, but I try to avoid it.

Can't imagine myself making the mistake of having kids in the first place.

I'm not really a fan of violence towards children..... If they make too much noise, just give em a few teaspoons of brandy and they'll usually shut up after that.... Easy.

My mom never laid a hand on me, but I was one of those kids that fought back against teachers.... a lot..... most of the dumb fucks taught me nothing that I've used in the real world, anyway.... except maybe basic math (but the abacus and calculator did a better job for that)

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