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Which Genre scanlation groups are the WORST about sharing?

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16 years ago
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The world of shoujo scanlations is a cutthroat place!

I'm not into shoujo, but I upload releases, and I have to say I wish they would ease up a bit. I can't remember if I've ever had to do the "Make __ posts before you get access" thing in any place but a shoujo scanlation site.
And then there's the thing about stealing series... I've witnessed that happen and it is a scary thing, their reactions... o_o;


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16 years ago
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lolz I think most of us are in agreement that shoujo scanlators can get pretty persnickety (love that word ^_^) about who gets their releases. I love seeing the long list of group commandments at the end of some series(3 day wait before upload, no uploading on viewing sites, etc), some of which were very threatening. Although, sometimes if a group is dragging their feet, due to lack of staff or something else, and someone else takes over; there doesn't seem to be much trouble. Of course they have to be new scans, lest all you want all hell to break loose.

The most liberal would have to be the shonen and hentai crowd. Shonen b/c it's either everywhere or the group are fans and want to share it w/ other fans. And, hentai b/c most groups are supported financially by leachers and it's pr0n and that's what the web thrives on. 😃


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16 years ago
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i cant be too sure since i tend to get whatever i want to download fairly easily.

from the sounds of it, it's probably shoujo, though. i can't be bothered with joining a forum and making pointless posts, so if thats the requirement to get such-and-such manga, i'm not going to even bother reading that manga then. not worth the grief.

i cant understand why some shoujo groups even require post counts for their own releases. leechers will just spam and thats just pointless mess for everyone else to wade through and for tired mods to clean up. ugh.


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16 years ago
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Since I'm interpreting the initial inquiry as sharing projects between groups and not to readers, I'm going to go with the BL groups. I've seen first hand the drama, as a bystander.

I think that BL groups tend to pick projects that they believe will herd in a great amount of fans/readers. And I don't mean that in an offensive way. Fans of certain scan groups will ultimately have the the same taste, otherwise why would they be following them, and so groups pick not only series that they like, but what they think their readers will like. Each and every BL group are different, I really don't think that projects are picked at random. I'm an avid follower of several groups for their unique selection of series and mangakas. And some...not so much.

Finding a unique series that you think will delight your readers only to have it "taken," (I supposed) is disheartening. And bitterness will ensue. Especially if time and effort has already been put into it.

I'm not concluding that this is exclusive to BL. I just happen to experience a situation. I guess this could also apply to all other "group genres."

Now sharing with readers, I think Shoujo groups tend to be a bit more...reluctant. I associate it with a child's first day of school. Some parents just don't want to let go. XD

That's why they tend to have more rules: X amount of post, X amount of days before sharing, etc. Although I always follow those rules (post count requirements mostly), I don't necessarily agree with them. If you release it, share it. What's the point of all the runaround when ultimately, those rules will be broken and your scans will be posted somewhere else. Controlling something like that on the internet is really almost impossible and the only way for that to happen is to not release it.

But a group's rule is a group's rule. Who am I to dictate what's right or wrong. And if this post offends any group, I apologize. That's really not my intention.


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16 years ago
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I'm rather amused at how mad groups get because someone 'stole' their project. It's illegal any way you slice it.


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16 years ago
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I'm rather amused at how mad groups get because someone 'stole' their project. It's illegal any way you slice it.

I was looking at all of the posts in here and that's exactly what I was thinking. It's like the groups that are arguing with each other are fighting over who gets the bigger bullseye. 🤣


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16 years ago
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This was a tough vote. Shoujo peeps are snobbish about sharing. If you don't post at their forums, you don't get to read. Then again it's the same for doujin projects. Also with both types, you gen have to sign up with Mirc programs and they can be a pain in the butt to use. And when you use Mirc, you have to find friendly people willing to share!

I like the Shounen scanners, they are always willing to share!


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16 years ago
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It all ends up on #lurk eventually. Don't see why they try so hard.


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16 years ago
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ahaha shoujo being possessive it matches soo perfectly kinda ironic
crazy psycho girls and their shoujo...
there are only a few shoujos i read a small few thank goodness


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16 years ago
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It all ends up on #lurk eventually. Don't see why they try so hard.

QFFT!

I miss going to #lurk for my manga, but I've now found a few more DDL sites that usually have what I'm looking for. Although the older series are hard to come by, atleast as whole tankoubon releases. But I'd only need to dl those if my hard drives suffered some catastrophic failure. Like my house catching fire or something.
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14 years ago
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I personally feel shoujo scanslation are guarded more because of the people involved, but if the yaoi groups are more relaxed even though it's probably 98% girls, it's a bit of what they are scanslating. I hear yaoi tends to be very short works like oneshots or one volume, so there's no real personal investment like I would think with at least a 3 or more volume series.

Well you forget that you can't compare shoujo to yaoi. Where shoujo is about the pure love and relationship growth, almost without sex in the story, Yaoi is like a gay-porn for woman, it's about getting to "the point".
It's the same with shoujo-smut, getting to "the point". (there is mostly just 1 volume too) 😛
Shoujo's equivalent is rather shonen ai, and believe me, there is some drama out-there, even in yaoi scan services. 😲

I mean it is frustrating if you read a story till chapter 3 and then you go to baka-updates and get a big shock when you look at the time of the last update. 1000 or even 2000 days ago. When I see that I just get frustrated.
But then, there is a light on the horizon in form of another scanlation-group that picks up this forgotten project.
At that moment, a new chapter is released by this scan-group there will be hell to pay cause the old scan-group always get's bitchy and claims this project for themselves. I hate that the most.
If you can't get the finger out of your a** and get moving, then don't expect that not somebody else will continue to translate the project. It's illegal anyways. 😳

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14 years ago
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Shoujo. ):
There's plenty of it but that doesn't seem to matter at all. Girls like their chick flick and bishies.
I'm also sick of the genre itself after working on it for so long...
I need me some more shounen.


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14 years ago
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Maybe it's just me, but I find yaoi groups to be one of the least about being the worst in sharing. That's just my own biased opinion, though. 🤣
I'd probably say hentai.


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14 years ago
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Shoujo IMO.

Funny enough I work in NC where we do have the '10 posts' rule but it's to bring traffic into our site because we're still a relatively newish group. But after a few days, we release it out to the public anyway.

But back to the question. Shoujo. I can't be stuffed registering into their forums.And if updates haven't been seen for ages, and if we email them if we can pick up their projects, they so to say, are still "doing it". Yeah right. The point to scanlate is to bring it out for everyone else to enjoy. What else?


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