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Post #183528 - Reply To (#183527) by ahoaho
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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

Seems set up for teh Two Face... no?

needs to watch the movie.

Oh well

Two Face dies in this movie you better watch it 😛


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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

I've always wanted to see Manbat done. I honestly don't care for the Riddler.

I've done lots of speculation about who they'll use next. After the completely awful portrayal in that one movie, I'm not sure I want to see a live action version of Mr Freeze ever again. I'd kinda like to see what Nolan would do with the Penguin, but you really need another strong villain to go along with him. They should probably stay away from Catwoman for now. I'd maybe like someone not yet used like Bane or Clayface. I'm not really sure though.

The villains really make the Batman movie, so they better pick good ones.


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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

Seems set up for teh Two Face... no?

needs to watch the movie.

No...

I am hoping for some villains of the female persuasion 😀
The best villains are 2 face, joker and freeze. I am hoping for a decent freeze villain.


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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

Seems set up for teh Two Face... no?

needs to watch the movie.

No...

I am hoping for some villains of the female persuasion 😀

Catwoman?


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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

I've always wanted to see Manbat done. I honestly don't care for the Riddler.

I've done lots of speculation about who they'll use next. After the completely awful portrayal in that one movie, I'm not sure I want to see a live action version of Mr Freeze ever again. I'd kinda like to see what Nolan would do with the Penguin, but you really need another strong villain to go along with him. They should probably stay away from Catwoman for now. I'd maybe like someone not yet used like Bane or Clayface. I'm not really sure though.

The villains really make the Batman movie, so they better pick good ones.

Bane was used in that completely crappy Batman movie with Schwarzenegger, Thurman and Clooney. I can see a lot of potential with Clayface,a nd you're right Catwoman should be stayed away from (especially after that crappy Catwoman movie).


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Robin can be well done, but it's really hard and risky, chances are Walrothetacoking is most likely right about Robin killing the franchise. As for new villains for the next movie, what do you think? Riddler again? Maybe Manbat.

I've always wanted to see Manbat done. I honestly don't care for the Riddler.

I've done lots of speculation about who they'll use next. After the completely awful portrayal in that one movie, I'm not sure I want to see a live action version of Mr Freeze ever again. I'd kinda like to see what Nolan would do with the Penguin, but you really need another strong villain to go along with him. They should probably stay away from Catwoman for now. I'd maybe like someone not yet used like Bane or Clayface. I'm not really sure though.

The villains really make the Batman movie, so they better pick good ones.

Bane was used in that completely crappy Batman movie with Schwarzenegger, Thurman and Clooney. I can see a lot of potential with Clayface,a nd you're right Catwoman should be stayed away from (especially after that crappy Catwoman movie).

Oh yeah you're right, Bane was used in that. I try to block that movie from my memories so I had forgotten. He could be done better though. And you're right, Clayface would probably be lame, but hey they haven't tried it before.


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I don't know much about Clayface, he might turn out lame like Sandman was in Spiderman 3. I wish they had made Ra's al Ghul use the Lazarus pit and be all old and crap in the first movie (if they did I can't remember), that would make a pretty good transition into bringing in Talia (possibly as Batty's next lover). They could do Killer Croc or even the Mad-Hatter.


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I don't know much about Clayface, he might turn out lame like Sandman was in Spiderman 3. I wish they had made Ra's al Ghul use the Lazarus pit and be all old and crap in the first movie (if they did I can't remember), that would make a pretty good transition into bringing in Talia (possibly as Batty's next lover). They could do Killer Croc or even the Mad-Hatter.

I hope they don't use the Mad-Hatter. He's such a gimmick villain. I'd prefer Man-bat or clayface, or a really good Mr. Freeze. Bane is a difficult villain because his comic appearance was so apocalyptic. That man don't play games.


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I don't know much about Clayface, he might turn out lame like Sandman was in Spiderman 3. I wish they had made Ra's al Ghul use the Lazarus pit and be all old and crap in the first movie (if they did I can't remember), that would make a pretty good transition into bringing in Talia (possibly as Batty's next lover). They could do Killer Croc or even the Mad-Hatter.

I hope they don't use the Mad-Hatter. He's such a gimmick villain. I'd prefer Man-bat or clayface, or a really good Mr. Freeze. Bane is a difficult villain because his comic appearance was so apocalyptic. That man don't play games.

True, it should be said that any GOOD Batman movie with Bane in it would probably be rated R for intense graphic violence.

I would love them to make a movie out of the Dark Knight Returns comic by Frank Miller.


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I don't know much about Clayface, he might turn out lame like Sandman was in Spiderman 3. I wish they had made Ra's al Ghul use the Lazarus pit and be all old and crap in the first movie (if they did I can't remember), that would make a pretty good transition into bringing in Talia (possibly as Batty's next lover). They could do Killer Croc or even the Mad-Hatter.

Clayface is a character with many different origin stories (there's more than one Clayface), most of which are good, but the character himself is not that compelling in my eyes (mostly because a guy made of clay is not very realistic). Nolan might be able to work some magic with him, but I kind of would rather these Batman films not become all crazy with the CG monsters like all the other super hero films.

I would love to see Ra's return with Talia, that would be great. You do bring up a good point that Batman now doesn't have a love interest (might increase the chances of Catwoman happening, unfortunately)

Killer Croc's an interesting proposition, but I doubt he's a strong enough character. The Mad-hatter is, in one world, lame. Ultra-gimmicky villains like that are the type that should be avoided at all cost.


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But I must say , Joker redefined how villains are supposed to be in action movies ( well, at least for me )

Lulz, Sin City anyone? The King of Persia(300)? The dude in No Country for Old Men? Die Hard? Blade?

Geeezuzzzz. To many accolades for this portrayal. Damn.

I do have to agree. If you want to talk about psychopathic killers, no one is better than the dude from No Country for Old Men. I still think Heath's Joker deserves to be in the same mention as them, but it can't top that psycho. And I was under the impression that you already saw The Dark Knight since you seemed to back up your arguments well.

As for who will be the next villain. Honestly, me and my friends were wondering about that. The thing about Nolan's Batman movies is that they are made to be realistic. I mean honestly, there is nothing supernatural about any of these two movies. It's the technology that makes Batman a "super hero" and these Batman movies emphasize on that to the max. I mean, can you really think of something that happened in these movies that makes you think that it'll be impossible for that to happen.

Anyways, because these movies take on a realistic approach, any villain that is supernatural, like Clayface and maybe Man-Bat (although I can see that happening if they just make him a freakish looking person) have to be removed from contention. Even Ras was humanized in that Batman (if I remember correctly, he was immortal in the cartoon, but he was very mortal in the last Batman). Villains like the Penguin, the Riddler, and maybe Mr. Freeze (although that would be pushing the technology aspect) have a realistic chance of being the next villain. And what's the problem with Catwoman? Forget that horrible movie, I always loved her character. Catwoman adds another dimension to the film, which is portrayed beautifully in Batman Returns. The only reason why I would say no to Catwoman is because she was already done. So, when you ponder who will be the next villain, you should really look at the nature of these last two movies and then come up with names.


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The thing about Nolan's Batman movies is that they are made to be realistic.

Really?

I don't see the beginning of the movie with the school buses as realistic? No one noticed a frigin school bus crashing into a bank? And the bus casually drove away in a legion of school buses? I'd like to see you pull that off in real life...
I would also like to see you do that thing when Batman was retrieved by a plane from that Hong Kong building... If you can even find a person who can pilot a plane that low over Hong Kong (you'd probably get shot down by the Chinese military after your get away even if you could get picked up by that plane).
Oh and lets not mention how completely realistic that cell phone "sonar" system is.
That looked like a blatant rip off of some other superheroes trademark abilities...
superman hearing ability + daredevil vision = batmans new toy 3D mapping of a whole city... yep doesn't get any more realistic than that, does it?


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The thing about Nolan's Batman movies is that they are made to be realistic.

Really?

I don't see the beginning of the movie with the school buses as realistic? No one noticed a frigin school bus crashing into a bank? And the bus casually drove away in a legion of school buses? I'd like to see you pull that off in real life...
I would also like to see you do that thing when Batman was retrieved by a plane from that Hong Kong building... If you can even find a person who can pilot a plane that low over Hong Kong (you'd probably get shot down by the Chinese military after your get away even if you could get picked up by that plane).
Oh and lets not mention how completely realistic that cell phone "sonar" system is.
That looked like a blatant rip off of some other superheroes trademark abilities...
superman hearing ability + daredevil vision = batmans new toy 3D mapping of a whole city... yep doesn't get any more realistic than that, does it?

More realistic than Tim Burton's surrealistic cities.


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The thing about Nolan's Batman movies is that they are made to be realistic.

Really?

I don't see the beginning of the movie with the school buses as realistic? No one noticed a frigin school bus crashing into a bank? And the bus casually drove away in a legion of school buses? I'd like to see you pull that off in real life...
I would also like to see you do that thing when Batman was retrieved by a plane from that Hong Kong building... If you can even find a person who can pilot a plane that low over Hong Kong (you'd probably get shot down by the Chinese military after your get away even if you could get picked up by that plane).
Oh and lets not mention how completely realistic that cell phone "sonar" system is.
That looked like a blatant rip off of some other superheroes trademark abilities...
superman hearing ability + daredevil vision = batmans new toy 3D mapping of a whole city... yep doesn't get any more realistic than that, does it?

More realistic than Tim Burton's surrealistic cities.

Surrealism ftw.

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The thing about Nolan's Batman movies is that they are made to be realistic.

Really?

I don't see the beginning of the movie with the school buses as realistic? No one noticed a frigin school bus crashing into a bank? And the bus casually drove away in a legion of school buses? I'd like to see you pull that off in real life...
I would also like to see you do that thing when Batman was retrieved by a plane from that Hong Kong building... If you can even find a person who can pilot a plane that low over Hong Kong (you'd probably get shot down by the Chinese military after your get away even if you could get picked up by that plane).
Oh and lets not mention how completely realistic that cell phone "sonar" system is.
That looked like a blatant rip off of some other superheroes trademark abilities...
superman hearing ability + daredevil vision = batmans new toy 3D mapping of a whole city... yep doesn't get any more realistic than that, does it?

Yes, that is fairly realistic. I know what you're saying, but these Batman movies do have a sense of realism. Those things that you mentioned are nothing more than Hollywood reality. What I was saying is that there is no supernatural aspect to these movies at all. So, it's unrealistic for those things to happen in real life, but can that really compare to the unrealism of someone like Clayface or Man-Bat, or even the unrealism of a Ras that is immortal? You missed the point that I was trying to make, and you also missed what I said about Batman. He is a "super hero" because of technology. Sure, the stuff that he has now, and some of the things he did, isn't something that you will find in the world today, but is it really that implausible to believe that 20 years down down line some of the technology in the Batman movies can actually exist? If you were to bring someone who died in the 80's back to life and show them something like a DVD player, chances are they'll be like, "Wow, that's amazing!" It's called technology, and it revolutionizes the living condition of people. Honestly, really analyze what people say before you try to make them feel stupid.


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