I don't really care. You can tell "Alcohol is more dangerous than marihuana" to your government or move to a place where it's legalized, or maybe declare you like the stuff less openly or join some "Legalize weed" movement.

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I don't really care. You can tell "Alcohol is more dangerous than marihuana" to your government or move to a place where it's legalized, or maybe declare you like the stuff less openly.

Who says i like cannabis ? 😛 (even though i have clear bias. It begs the point still)
Just creating a topic where we can place our opinions and talk about it openly, maybe even debate 😲
The way you insinuate that its taboo to talk about is funny.
"less openly" 🤣 You crack me up.

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Ugh, and why would I want that? So people can smoke openly and can get smoke in my face. I aleardy get enough of cigarette smoke blown in my face.

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I honestly don't care.

People already obtain that crap now, whether it be through illegal or legal methods. Legality will just make quantities larger and create more idiots.

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I don't really care. You can tell "Alcohol is more dangerous than marihuana" to your government or move to a place where it's legalized, or maybe declare you like the stuff less openly.

Who says i like cannabis ? 😛
Just creating a topic where we can place our opinions and talk about it openly, maybe even debate 😲
The way you insinuate that its taboo to talk about is funny in my opinion though.
"less openly" 🤣 You crack me up.

Sure you can say whatever you like in the internet, my point was that you surely just proclaim weed should be legalized because you are a kindred soul that only seeks for the right thing to be done. I was saying something more along the lines of "Sure he could had made a "I like weed and that is why it should be legalized thread" instead of saying it should be legalized because "It's less harmful than alcohol".

By the way I don't think it's taboo at all, what is more I think medicinal use of the stuff is ok, I don't really care about the other uses.

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I don't really care. You can tell "Alcohol is more dangerous than marihuana" to your government or move to a place where it's legalized, or maybe declare you like the stuff [b]less openly.[/b]

Who says i like cannabis ? 😛
Just creating a topic where we can place our opinions and talk about it openly, maybe even debate 😲
The way you insinuate that its taboo to talk about is funny in my opinion though.
"less openly" 🤣 You crack me up.

Sure you can say whatever you like in the internet, my point was that you surely just proclaim weed should be legalized because you are a kindred soul that only seeks for the right thing to be done. I was saying something more along the lines of "Sure he could had made a "I like weed and that is why it should be legalized thread" instead of saying it should be legalized because "It's less harmful than alcohol".

By the way I don't think it's taboo at all, what is more I think medicinal use of the stuff is ok, I don't really care about the other uses.

Hmmmm, i see your point but "It should" and "why not?" are different.

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[quote=tsuto]I don't really care. You can tell "Alcohol is more dangerous than marihuana" to your government or move to a place where it's legalized, or maybe declare you like the stuff [b]less openly.[/b]

Who says i like cannabis ? 😛
Just creating a topic where we can place our opinions and talk about it openly, maybe even debate 😲
The way you insinuate that its taboo to talk about is funny in my opinion though.
"less openly" 🤣 You crack me up.

Sure you can say whatever you like in the internet, my point was that you surely just proclaim weed should be legalized because you are a kindred soul that only seeks for the right thing to be done. I was saying something more along the lines of "Sure he could had made a "I like weed and that is why it should be legalized thread" instead of saying it should be legalized because "It's less harmful than alcohol".

By the way I don't think it's taboo at all, what is more I think medicinal use of the stuff is ok, I don't really care about the other uses.

Hmmmm, i see your point but "It should" and "why not?" are different. [/quote]

Erm, I think you should had used another title for the thread too, and edit your first post too then.

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I honestly don't care.

People already obtain that crap now, whether it be through illegal or legal methods. Legality will just make quantities larger and create more idiots.

Oh really..... Marijuana does not create idiots!!!!!!!!! The people you see in rehab, in the news, being caught, etc.. were already idiots to begin with. Those are the people that make marijuana look bad.

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well if you read the end of my post it says why not?
And the title has a question mark.
A little missleading but if you read it all, it makes sense.

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This is nothing new....

Pot is one of those things that are "illegal" but if you're caught with it, the cops don't care...so really legalizing it wouldn't make much of a different one way or another. People smoke it in plain view around here.

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@tsuto
well if you read the end of my post it says why not?
And the title has a question mark.
A little missleading but if you read it all, it makes sense.

Well with "Legalize Weed!!!...?" as title, and "I want to talk about "weed" and why we should unban it." as first line it surely sounds like you are trying to set up a movement or something.

Now talking seriously I think information about how it got legalized in Netherlands would be more informative than "It shouldn't be illegal because alcohol is more harmful and is legal".

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@tsuto
well if you read the end of my post it says why not?
And the title has a question mark.
A little missleading but if you read it all, it makes sense.

Well with "Legalize Weed!!!...?" as title, and "I want to talk about "weed" and why we should unban it." as first line it surely sounds like you are trying to set up a movement or something.

Now talking seriously I think information about how it got legalized in Netherlands would be more informative than "It shouldn't be illegal because alcohol is more harmful and is legal".

You sound very controling in what you just said there. Why should you not be the one to inform us about the legalisation of weed in Nethalands. I think the title is fine you seem to be trying to limit the convosation into one focused area where as I think this topic is ment to be a lot more broader for discussion.

How can you justify making something worse legal to something that is less worse illegal?

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@tsuto
well if you read the end of my post it says why not?
And the title has a question mark.
A little missleading but if you read it all, it makes sense.

Well with "Legalize Weed!!!...?" as title, and "I want to talk about "weed" and why we should unban it." as first line it surely sounds like you are trying to set up a movement or something.

Now talking seriously I think information about how it got legalized in Netherlands would be more informative than "It shouldn't be illegal because alcohol is more harmful and is legal".

Titles that are too modest lack conviction. The reason why i used that particular example is because of how the masses see marijuana in a missrepresnted way, Simple reason. Media miss represents things. Was banned for reasons not substantial enough in my opinion. I think comparing it to something that is a necessity to sociaty is a solid example. There are many others examples but one is enough to question...

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I'm from the Netherlands. In the Netherlands weed is legal. Well - it is legal to have a few gram with you in public. And it is legal if a shop (the famous coffee shops) sells a few grams. The funny thing is: it is illegal for the coffee shop to buy weed to sell it to costumers.

By now society doesn't give a rats ass about weed, and smoking pot isn't something people do to be cool.Weed is almost completely out of the criminal circuit and it hasn't any 'dangerous' or 'cool' aspects that lures people out to try some. Using pot won't gain you any status. Most teenagers that will use pot are just pathetic to most of their peers. Therefore the Netherlands have very little problems with problematic pot smoking youth.

The only problems society (or just the government, who knows) experiences are:

• drugs tourism, people coming from other countries. People coming isn't the problem, but those people are often a nuisance. Especially cities close to Belgium and Germany experience these problems with drugs tourism.
• Weed is still partly part of the criminal circuit. Coffee shops can only purchase weed on illegal basis. This makes us miss out on great Tax income, and keeps the criminal circuit flourishing.

My opinion is that every drug (hard drug, soft drug, or even alcohol) is dangerous if you use it without common sense. If you know you easily get addicted, be wise and don't use the stuff. But prohibiting it makes it even more exiting for lots of people.

I mean - it is common history, just look at the American alcohol prohibition the mafia just loved it, and business was booming for the grape growers. Just make it legal and boring - people will lose their interest in no time.

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You sound very controling in what you just said there. Why should you not be the one to inform us about the legalisation of weed in Nethalands. I think the title is fine you seem to be trying to limit the convosation into one focused area where as I think this topic is ment to be a lot more broader for discussion.

Controlling? 🤣

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You also quoted him wrong by accident, he did not say "It shouldn't be illegal because alcohol is more harmful and is legal" he is saying it should be legal because there are drugs out there that are more harmful yet are legal. How can you justify making something worse legal to something that is less worse illegal?

No, you are wrong, I wasn't quoting him at all, phrasing it my way. And you my friend, are saying basically the same. And what does it have to do with justifying that or not? It's not a matter if it's justified or not it's a matter of governments legalizing one while not the other, that being rational or not is another thing.

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Titles that are too modest lack conviction. The reason why i used that particular example is because of how the masses see marijuana in a missrepresnted way, Simple reason. Media miss represents things. Was banned for reasons not substantial enough in my opinion. I think comparing it to something that is a necessity to sociaty is a solid example. There are many others examples but one is enough to question...

Well, if you are trying to make people think "Why not?" using an expression that can make people think you are strongly in favor isn't exactly the best way. I don't really think alcohol is a necessity to society but I more or less understand what you are trying to say. The thing is it doesn't really matter what reason are there to make it legal as long as what supports the contrary position holds more power.

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