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When's the last time you heard of tobacco and alcohol being used for medicinal purposes.

Alcohol is used for medical purposes all the time. People self-medicate for colds and psychological disorders, there are moderate health benefits linked to alcohol consumption, and when applied topically alcohol is great for cleaning cuts / killing germs. Nicotine is sometimes used to help treat people with neurological disorders (i.e. Tourette's syndrome). ^^

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I know most adults I know think marijuana should be illegal, while most young adults I know think it should be legal. Time is the only thing that will change the perception of marijuana in terms of the majority.

Generational divide - good point.

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...when applied topically alcohol is great for cleaning cuts / killing germs.

Just saying, if you put alcohol on a cut for medical purposes, generally it's rubbing alcohol. And drinking rubbing alcohol is a very, very bad idea.

So using alcohol as a disinfectant doesn't really have anything to do with drinking it

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...when applied topically alcohol is great for cleaning cuts / killing germs.

Just saying, if you put alcohol on a cut for medical purposes, generally it's rubbing alcohol. And drinking rubbing alcohol is a very, very bad idea.

So using alcohol as a disinfectant doesn't really have anything to do with drinking it

Agreed, I wouldn't drink rubbing alcohol, but I suggested 3 uses for alcohol - only one of which was topical. And rubbing alcohol isn't the only kind of alcohol you can use to disinfect wounds - only the most common and effective.

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[quote=fr33noob][quote=tsuto][quote=fr33noob][quote=tsuto][quote=fr33noob][quote=tsuto]Surely legalizing it will stop the blackmarket 🤣
So you think making money out of it is the reason to legalize it? I'm sure governments are well aware of that, still they don't legalize it. You know what that means.

That they are seriously miss informed! 🤣

I'm not disappointed you didn't get it and that is not surprising.

Ohhhh don't tell me the "they are looking out for peoples health." You telling me that those blood sucking fiends care about that? I think why its not legal is because of how it is all missrepresnted and we all know for a polatician. Apperance is EVERYTHING.

And no it won't get more expensive...maybe cheaper since it will be mass produced. So...
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No, think again,deeper.

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ok, suprise me. Terrorists? Disoder? Underage smokers? Violance? hmmmm? I wan't to hear this great reason 🤣 [/quote]

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Guessing game? Thinking is good for people, and as I see some really need it.[/quote]

Don't be silly just say the reason. Yes it is good for us to think but when the main resource for the information is you it is obvious to say what are you talking about to you than trying to guess am I right? [/quote]

legalizing it will just encourage more people to use it. Because smoking is legal, even minors can easily get their hands on a pack of cigarette. If weeds are legal, there will just be as many young people smoking cigars as smoking weeds. In most cases weeds are harmful, we should not encourage people to take it. Legalizing it will.

@fr33noob: I have to say this thread was certainly a good source of entertainment, since I got to know that there are people that believe the following things:

• That weed will get cheaper if legalized because it will be mass produced.
• That politicians are fools because they can't understand that legalizing weed will get the government lots of money.
• That "NOT EVERYTHING IF FULLED BY ALCOHOL but alot is"
• That without alcohol tax economy will collapse.

After all that editing in your posts I didn't really know what to think, but I will still tell you copy pasta from wiki isn't that good (straw man) 🤣

Also it's good to know you got a good fan like the-burden.

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How did isopropyl alcohol come into this thread... O_o...

Also, seeing that the almighty tsuto pointed out that you think legality would make it cheaper...

Did you know that if weed was legalized, more people would buy it -> higher demand equals higher prices -> tax -> more money for the government? Yup. It actually wouldn't be cheaper if it was legalized.

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im for it, to bad the rest of california wasnt 🙁

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@fr33noob: I have to say this thread was certainly a good source of entertainment, since I got to know that there are people that believe the following things:

• That weed will get cheaper if legalized because it will be mass produced.
• That politicians are fools because they can't understand that legalizing weed will get the government lots of money.
• That "NOT EVERYTHING IF FULLED BY ALCOHOL but alot is"
• That without alcohol tax economy will collapse.

After all that editing in your posts I didn't really know what to think, but I will still tell you copy pasta from wiki isn't that good (straw man) 🤣

Also it's good to know you got a good fan like the-burden.

I ment "fuelled".
Jeeez.
No i used it correctly. I just wanted a better definition hence wiki. (straw man).
Bullet pointed me but you are on the right track. The last sentence would be better with "crash" not "collapse".

Prices on the street aren't exactly fair trade by the way people. Something to bare in mind.

When did i say polaticans are fools? I just said they would prefer not to legalise it purely for appearance. When i said they weren't informed properly, i was taking a sarcastic route.

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legalizing it will just encourage more people to use it. Because smoking is legal, even minors can easily get their hands on a pack of cigarette. If weeds are legal, there will just be as many young people smoking cigars as smoking weeds. In most cases weeds are harmful, we should not encourage people to take it. Legalizing it will.

Misinformed are we? Ban cigarretes then...It is bad for you isn't it? Along with alcohol.

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How did isopropyl alcohol come into this thread... O_o...

^^ Twisty logic. It was just a minor side note.

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Also, seeing that the almighty tsuto pointed out that you think legality would make it cheaper...

Did you know that if weed was legalized, more people would buy it -> higher demand equals higher prices -> tax -> more money for the government? Yup. It actually wouldn't be cheaper if it was legalized.

The idea isn't totally out there - mass production of any good without an increase in demand should lower the price. What's more, I've heard that marijuana prices in countries that have criminalized it tend to be inflated by about 500-600%. The real problem with predicting price drops with marijuana, you're right in pointing out, is not knowing what any government will charge in taxes. At the very least don't expect marijuana to be cheaper than cigs, and taxes on cigs where I live amount to twice the cost of the cigs.

did you guys even read my post from page 2? This looks more like a private chat than a thread to me.
Well now, as I said before:
I'm from the Netherlands. That means I know what I'm talking about.

In the Netherlands weed is legal. Well - it is legal to have a few gram with you in public. And it is legal if a shop (the famous coffee shops) sells a few grams. The funny thing is: it is illegal for the coffee shop to buy weed to sell it to costumers. And indeed - you are allowed to have 5 weed plants at home.

By now society doesn't give a rats ass about weed, and smoking pot isn't something people do to be cool. Smoking pot also doesn't belong to one subculture any more. A joint is about as normal as a cigarette. In both cases people complain about the smell of the person smoking - but I rather prefer the smell of weed than tobacco.

Weed is almost completely out of the criminal circuit and it hasn't any 'dangerous' or 'cool' aspects that lures people out to try some. Using pot won't gain you any status. Most teenagers that will use pot for their image are just pathetic to most of their peers. Therefore the Netherlands have very little problems with problematic pot smoking youth.

The only problems society (or just the government, who knows) experiences are:

• drugs tourism, people coming from other countries. People coming isn't the problem, but those people are often a nuisance. Especially cities close to Belgium and Germany experience these problems with drugs tourism.
• Weed is still partly part of the criminal circuit. Coffee shops can only purchase weed on illegal basis. This makes us miss out on a huge tax income, and keeps the criminal circuit flourishing.
• Another problem is people creating dangerous situation for their neighbours with having their own weed plantation - if that goes wrong it won't be only your own home that burns out.

My opinion is that every drug (hard drug, soft drug, or even alcohol) **is dangerous if you use it without common sense. **If you know you easily get addicted, be wise and don't use the stuff. But prohibiting it makes it even more exiting for lots of people.

I mean - it is common history, just look at the American alcohol prohibition the mafia just loved it, and business was booming for the grape growers. Alcohol usage never was that big when it was before the prohibition. Just make it legal and boring - people will lose their interest in no time.

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@fr33noob: I have to say this thread was certainly a good source of entertainment, since I got to know that there are people that believe the following things:

• That weed will get cheaper if legalized because it will be mass produced.
• That politicians are fools because they can't understand that legalizing weed will get the government lots of money.
• That "NOT EVERYTHING IF FULLED BY ALCOHOL but alot is"
• That without alcohol tax economy will collapse.

After all that editing in your posts I didn't really know what to think, but I will still tell you copy pasta from wiki isn't that good (straw man) 🤣

Also it's good to know you got a good fan like the-burden.

Edit: I am not a fan just someone in favoure of his opnion stop being insulting.

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A weed topic turning into a flame topic.
Obvious pun. Shoulda seen that coming.

Edit: Interesting.

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