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Post #107975
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17 years ago
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If I am not mistaken we are talking about the manga here since this thread is in manga section. In the manga, there is no Clare vs Priscilia at the volcano.


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17 years ago
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Claymore is good, but greatly overrated imo. Its got no business being compared to Berserk.


Post #107977
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17 years ago
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You can have your own opinion. I still think Claymore is better than Berserk because they got better plot.Berserk got too many flaw like I already mentioned.Beside Claymore only got around 13 volumes while Berserk already got around 32 volumes.
To be honest, i also don understand why people been comparing claymore and berserk. The only similarities I can see is that they both got violence and using big swords. For me Shin Angyo Onshi is closer to Berserk rather than claymore.


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17 years ago
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Yes....I dont understand how Berserk vs Claymore was born O.e


Post #107979
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17 years ago
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And I am sick of watching Bleach vs Naruto.Now, we got claymore vs berserk.


Post #107983 - Reply To (#107971) by avp
Post #107983 - Reply To (#107971) by avp
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Quote from "NightSwan"

well, If you find this thread pointless, close it.

It's not against the rules to create this kind of threads, so in theory nobody has the moral right to close it if it doesn't have a reasonable reason to do it. Just because some people consider this topic pointless, useless and ridiculous that doesn't mean that this topic is, in fact, that. It just mean that some people consider it as such.

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I don't compare manga. no no
I came across many who do compare, especialy Berserk and Claymore, so I wanted to see how people would react.

Well, creating a "versus" topic between two mangas and making a poll with the purpose of asking the opinion of the community about the matter indirectly implies a comparison if you ask me, even though you didn't directly state it.

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If I have offended anyone by this thread i'm deeply sorry.

Why are you apologizing? In my opinion, the more affected person in this topic is you, the thread opener.

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He just totally ruined it for me!! When he didnt let Clare kill Priscilla....ugh...I almost cried!

You almost cried at a filler? (and a very bad one, by the way?)

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ever since the flashback end, Berserk has become lame.They got so many side kick plot .Instead of focusing in the main plot, we keep getting new enemy. First we got the th Elf(if I am not mistaken her name is Rosine), then we got a priest and now we got Ganishka. It seems to me the author got no idea at all how to develop the plot so he just keep creating new character to drag the storyline.
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By the way, I am the only one who felt that Berserk has become repetitive? I always got bad impression on manga that repetitive because** it remind me of Inuyasha.** When Griffith is reborn again, I was so excited. I keep telling myself finally Berserk is back on the main plot and it will become great again. However i was dissapointed. Griffith with the new Band of Hawk once keep winning battle and got support and popularity among humans. Duh. **This is obviously a copypaste of the Golden Age arc Nothing new at all from Berserk. And now we even got magic with fire,water and wind element 😕 ** ?

Statements like that make me wonder if people really comprehend what they're reading or if they just mechanically read without really paying attention.


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17 years ago
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Would you mind if you explain to me a little bit more detail. I have read until chapter 292 so I don mind spoiler.


Post #107986 - Reply To (#107971) by avp
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Quote from avp

First of all, I am new here. First time post.
For me Claymore is better than Berserk. berserk is good but ever since the flashback end, Berserk has become lame.They got so many side kick plot .Instead of focusing in the main plot, we keep getting new enemy. First we got the th Elf(if I am not mistaken her name is Rosine), then we got a priest and now we got Ganishka. It seems to me the author got no idea at all how to develop the plot so he just keep creating new character to drag the storyline.
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By the way, I am the only one who felt that Berserk has become repetitive? I always got bad impression on manga that repetitive because it remind me of Inuyasha. When Griffith is reborn again, I was so excited. I keep telling myself finally Berserk is back on the main plot and it will become great again. However i was dissapointed. Griffith with the new Band of Hawk once keep winning battle and got support and popularity among humans. Duh. This is obviously a copypaste of the Golden Age arc Nothing new at all from Berserk. And now we even got magic with fire,water and wind element 😕 ? Berserk doesnt look like a dark fantasy gor anymore but it look like a rpg manga for me. Sorry, but i need something more impressive, not something you can find in any typical rpg game.Anyway for me claymore is still much more better. I have give up on Berserk although i stll read the manga. I hope i dont offended anyone because this is just my opinion.

You must not have read berserk and just flipped to the bobbies, cause if you spent anytime on it you would realize the whole point of Gutts traveling is to kill God Hand in the end griffith. Now let me let you in on a little secret each one of those enemies gutts face usually has some connection with God hand, and you should take a course on English then maybe they could teach you how a story is written. its not magic its Elementals.

Also if you read the series you would know that Griffiths whole purpose of the Both was to get himself into a position where who could become king, which is what he's trying and succeeding to do right now. It would be to simple and low end to just have him up and kill everybody to be king, thats the kinda simpleton thinking that makes me sad.

Berserk isn't a shonen manga its not a point a to point b, there is meat between the bread and a few other garnishes to add extra characters, Guts isn't a loner by nature his life has made him that way so you need to add more then just a single fight to end the manga for some sorta character development, but if all you want is a simple story like Naruto I guess that can't be helped. Some people want a thick plot others a simple straight forward plot.

I'm only offended by narrow sightedness.


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Quote from "avp"

Would you mind if you explain to me a little bit more detail. I have read until chapter 292 so I don mind spoiler.

I would really like to debate the points you highlighted, if I could find some sense to them. For me it seems that you really didn't really understand anything of what you read. Because statements like these:

Quote from "avp"

Berserk has become lame.They got so many side kick plot .Instead of focusing in the main plot, we keep getting new enemy. First we got the th Elf(if I am not mistaken her name is Rosine), then we got a priest and now we got Ganishka. It seems to me the author got no idea at all how to develop the plot so he just keep creating new character to drag the storyline.

suggest me that you didn't understand the plot. And if you didn't understand the whole Conviction Arc, as well as the Millennium Falcon Arc it's pretty pointless to discuss the series without explaining the whole plot, but since you affirm that the Millennium Falcon Arc is a "copypaste of the Golden Age arc" also makes me think that you didn't understood this part of the manga either. So I'd really recommend you to re-read the whole manga and if even after that Berserk still reminds you of Inuyasha, well, maybe this manga is not your cup of tea at all.


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Claymore is Berserk, without as much violence and sex. Therefore I find it a bit more palatable than Berserk. Although both are still great because of their character development and rounded storylines.


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Post #107997 - Reply To (#107990) by llbloodll
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Quote from llbloodll

Claymore is Berserk, without as much violence and sex. Therefore I find it a bit more palatable than Berserk.

Oh God. I don't feel like repeating what I said in my first reply to this topic but I just want to make a correction of what I wrote: this topic is not as ridiculous as I first thought, is my irrational intention of trying to correct it what is truly ridiculous.

llbloodll: Your commentary left me speechless. I have no more to say in this conversation.


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i do realize that the purpose of why ganishka created was to make griffith able to take position as the king. My guess is that once Griffith have his own country, Gutts party will have to face against the world since they are having griffith who considered hero by most people. However to do this Miura use the old way just like golden age arc which why i said it is repetitive.In inuyasha, we always see naraku fight with inuyasha party and then he just ran away. there story development in Inuyasha but rumiko just keep using the same method to do it. It is the same for berserk

As for the new villain, perhaps i am explaining it in a wrong way which is why some of you got the wrong idea. Let talk about the first arc after the flshback. From what i can see, it is just created just to introduce Rosine . It is just stupid to create one arc just to introduce one character just like sasuke rescue arc 2 from naruto which was created to introduce yamato, sai, and the sasuke after time skip.As for the priest, i do not see any major connection between hin with the god hand or griffith. He is just there so that there will be an excuse to add action scence. he is just any random Apostle from berserk.


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I see that many find this topic ridicules and such.
I didn't compare them in the first place, I only saw many poeple who did, so I wanted to know what others may think about it.
I prefer Berserk over Claymore, so I found them being compared, i saw it in a negative view..
I had no intensions of making this a debey of which is better like in the Naruto vs Bleach case.

and again, you can close this topic if you hate it so much.


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17 years ago
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If you like berserk more than claymore, fine. Actually, i never plan to post in this thread in the first place. However, some berserk fan just keep making me angry. If you check the comment in the Berserk manga section, you can see berserkfan flame those who rate Berserk 1. They flamed them and said that they never read Berserk before. It like berserkfan cannot accept people opinion and and got no respect to other people. So i just post here to mention what i think is Berserk flaw and to tell them not all is perfect every manga got flaw . At the same time, by mentioning the flaw I will prove that i have read berserk before.


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Avp, you have no idea what you're talking about. 🤣 There's nothing repetitive in Berserk, story-wise at least.


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