Do you like it when in a manga, the girl falls for her rapist?
14 years ago
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It depends if you mean a guy physically forces a girl to have sex. (holding her down, tying her up, etc). Or if hes just pushy and a little forceful because she's reluctant.
Feed your head.
14 years ago
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If this is in Yaoi, then Yes 🙂
Only in yaoi <3 ^^
But in shoujo i hate it!!!!
Seriosuly, rape is a forum of overpowering a woman or man(hehe) and is not in the forum of love.
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14 years ago
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If this is in Yaoi, then Yes 🙂
Only in yaoi <3 ^^
But in shoujo i hate it!!!!
Seriosuly, rape is a forum of overpowering a woman or man(hehe) and is not in the forum of love.
the question was
do you like it when in a manga, the girl falls for her rapist?
well, fiction is fiction, i can deal with it as long as the rapist is human or human-like and not a dog or something like this (yeah, i have seen stories with dogs who rape a girl)
14 years ago
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Not unless the girl is portrayed as being psychologically disturbed, or having Stockholm Syndrome or something. But if it's supposed to be romantic, then ew. No way.
14 years ago
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If this is in Yaoi, then Yes 🙂
Ah, the same here. 😛
For me, it's actually a different matter when it's rape in a male x female relationship. Now I feel double-standarded. 😔 It's a much more delicate matter. Maybe it's because rape of women is a more often occuring thing in real life, so when it's badly depicted in a manga I'd just get mad because it isn't something to joke around with. But why doesn't it matter when it's yaoi? Gah, it's a hard question, because rape of males is a serious matter too. Maybe I see males as mentally stronger beings? But no, that's not right. Maybe it's because I really know that all the yaoi mangas are unrealistic fiction made for women (mostly). Yaoi is - most often - just unrealistic.
But on the other hand, a girl falling for her rapist in real life... That's also unrealistic, so manga plots with that theme are also unrealistic, and therefore I shouldn't be irritated (but I do) because I don't get irritated when reading the same happenings in yaoi mangas.. Maybe I'll just stop this flow of thought now. 🤢
14 years ago
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It depends on the context.
If it's in typical yaoi and shojo smut, I find it very distasteful and cliche.
If the mangaka is able to convey that theme in a meaningful way, then I'll probably like that.
Manga examples?
Sono Kuchibiru ni Yoru no Tsuyu
Bannin
Doll Garden
System of Romance
Kakutoshi no Yume
The most realistic portrayal of 'Girl falls for her rapist' plot is this fanfic:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3970159/1/Reciprocity
A hitman raped the girl, the girl got pregnant.. ran away and hid the baby away from him.. he found them.,. etc. Sounds like a chessy plot? No. You're wrong when you read them.
[img]http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/6167/avvy.png[/img]
Rape is imminent.
14 years ago
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If this is in Yaoi, then Yes 🙂
Ah, the same here. 😛
For me, it's actually a different matter when it's rape in a male x female relationship. Now I feel double-standarded. 😔 It's a much more delicate matter. Maybe it's because rape of women is a more often occuring thing in real life, so when it's badly depicted in a manga I'd just get mad because it isn't something to joke around with. But why doesn't it matter when it's yaoi? Gah, it's a hard question, because rape of males is a serious matter too. Maybe I see males as mentally stronger beings? But no, that's not right. Maybe it's because I really know that all the yaoi mangas are unrealistic fiction made for women (mostly). Yaoi is - most often - just unrealistic.
But on the other hand, a girl falling for her rapist in real life... That's also unrealistic, so manga plots with that theme are also unrealistic, and therefore I shouldn't be irritated (but I do) because I don't get irritated when reading the same happenings in yaoi mangas.. Maybe I'll just stop this flow of thought now. 🤢
There is a simple reason as to why you find yaoi rape acceptable, you are a girl. I find rape in yuri acceptable, I'm a guy. I also find straight rape disgusting, as a guy I have in me that a woman is something you should cherish and protect, rape is the best way to not do that.
Another reason to find a guy being raped is more acceptable is that men aren't that emotionally attached to sex. We can do it with any woman and feel nothing different, for us sex and emotions are completely separated, while girls can't really have sex with the first guy they meet on the street.(most of them can't at least)
Since this is about manga...I have never seen and hope I never see a manga like that. But I find no "sickness" in people who like it, it is only manga.
14 years ago
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For the most part, no.
Not if the story's trying to be serious. I'm pretty much open to a lot of kinds of manga, but I really can't say I enjoy that unrealistic idea.
Though, for some reason I can't explain, I have an odd interest in OSAKABE Mashin manga, even though she uses this trope all the time.
I'm also not a big fan of it in yaoi, for the most part...
Another reason to find a guy being raped is more acceptable is that men aren't that emotionally attached to sex. We can do it with any woman and feel nothing different, for us sex and emotions are completely separated, while girls can't really have sex with the first guy they meet on the street.(most of them can't at least)
I think some guys are more emotional about sexual things than others. I've met a guy quite different than you described, though, since I'm not a male, I don't really know if what you say is completely true. I think, in theory, I could keep sex and emotion separated, but women are told from a very young age that, well, that's absolutely not okay for us to do, it makes us 'sluts', etc. I think if boys and girls were raised with the same attitudes about sex, it would be different.
14 years ago
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It depends if you mean a guy physically forces a girl to have sex. (holding her down, tying her up, etc). Or if hes just pushy and a little forceful because she's reluctant.
rape is rape and is just wrong
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Quote from darknova42
It depends if you mean a guy physically forces a girl to have sex. (holding her down, tying her up, etc). Or if hes just pushy and a little forceful because she's reluctant.
rape is rape and is just wrong
amen! it is always a demeaning act whether u love the person who does or not.......
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If this is in Yaoi, then Yes 🙂
Ah, the same here. 😛
For me, it's actually a different matter when it's rape in a male x female relationship. Now I feel double-standarded. 😔 It's a much more delicate matter. Maybe it's because rape of women is a more often occuring thing in real life, so when it's badly depicted in a manga I'd just get mad because it isn't something to joke around with. But why doesn't it matter when it's yaoi? Gah, it's a hard question, because rape of males is a serious matter too. Maybe I see males as mentally stronger beings? But no, that's not right. Maybe it's because I really know that all the yaoi mangas are unrealistic fiction made for women (mostly). Yaoi is - most often - just unrealistic.
But on the other hand, a girl falling for her rapist in real life... That's also unrealistic, so manga plots with that theme are also unrealistic, and therefore I shouldn't be irritated (but I do) because I don't get irritated when reading the same happenings in yaoi mangas.. Maybe I'll just stop this flow of thought now. 🤢
There are documented cases of women falling in love with their rapists, especially in prolonged situations, for example if he kidnaps her and does so repeatedly over a period of time. It's more of a psychological defense mechanism than real love, but there you have it.
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There are documented cases of women falling in love with their rapists, especially in prolonged situations, for example if he kidnaps her and does so repeatedly over a period of time. It's more of a psychological defense mechanism than real love, but there you have it.
Its called Stockolm's syndrome though dont know about it bein a "defense mechanism"... 😎
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There are documented cases of women falling in love with their rapists, especially in prolonged situations, for example if he kidnaps her and does so repeatedly over a period of time. It's more of a psychological defense mechanism than real love, but there you have it.
Its called Stockolm's syndrome though dont know about it bein a "defense mechanism"... 😎
It's true, defense mechanism probably wasn't the right choice of words by any means. I only meant it insomuch as its a human adaption to a stressful situation, which simply isn't the entirety of what a psychological defense mechanism is. Apologies for my poor word choice.
14 years ago
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No. I don't understand why this happens. It's disturbing and a bit sick to draw a story like that.
If a guy is willing to force a girl into something she isn't ready for then there's something seriously wrong with him. "Because he loves her..." isn't a justifiable excuse. If he really "loved" her then he would care for her well-being and not be a direct cause of something so mentally scarring.
A more accurate saying would be, "because he lusts for her".
Love and lust are not the same. Sure, they're closely related but different.
14 years ago
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yes i do, i think rapists have been dehumanized and shunned by the liberal media, and im glad manga is taking a stand against this unjust treatment by the left wing propaganda machine
