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Do you like it when in a manga, the girl falls for her rapist?

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14 years ago
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yes i do, i think rapists have been dehumanized and shunned by the liberal media, and im glad manga is taking a stand against this unjust treatment by the left wing propaganda machine

Wow, it's been two years. O.o. I'm just looking through my old forum stuff...

and can't say I agree with the opinion of younger me


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yes i do, i think rapists have been dehumanized and shunned by the liberal media, and im glad manga is taking a stand against this unjust treatment by the left wing propaganda machine

dehumanize? It is not humane for someone to violate another against their will. In shoujo/smut the character is about to get raped but she sorta cries. I really can't call what it rape if she didn't do anything to help herself.

rape is evil and rapist should be shunned and killed

i know sarcasm is hard to convey over the internet, but come on did you really think i was serious


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No. I don't like that in my BL manga either. (hates Level C)


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yes i do, i think rapists have been dehumanized and shunned by the liberal media, and im glad manga is taking a stand against this unjust treatment by the left wing propaganda machine

dehumanize? It is not humane for someone to violate another against their will. In shoujo/smut the character is about to get raped but she sorta cries. I really can't call what it rape if she didn't do anything to help herself.

rape is evil and rapist should be shunned and killed

i know sarcasm is hard to convey over the internet, but come on did you really think i was serious

as much as i like a good yaoi or a good romance, rape is wrong no matter what. no true love or anything remotely okay can come of it. and if you call that sarcasm you need serious help because there is no way that resembles it at all. and besides, wouldn't it be right-wing propaganda seeing as they are ultra-conservative and while lefties are liberal and gung-ho about equality? just sayin'...


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and if you call that sarcasm you need serious help because there is no way that resembles it at all.

I thought it was pretty damn blatant.


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and if you call that sarcasm you need serious help because there is no way that resembles it at all.

I thought it was pretty damn blatant.

I concur. When someone says any variation on the phrase "I'm glad manga is sticking up for those poor, put-upon rapists", you should definitely be looking for the sarcasm value in the statement.


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I choose to skip it after reading the summary or forums which relate of it's content. Besides, I really hate NTRs.. The gravity of committing rape destroys lives tenfold compared to that of murder said one psychologist(forgot the name). Women are not weak to fall for their rapists, although it's true that such scenario occured/ may have occured due to RTS or other psychological reasons, but that's the kind of love that disgusts me, even when it's all fiction.
Of all tragedies, such scenario is most tragic. 😔


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@mangacraze

Gomen, I suck with sarcasm. hehe I feel so stupid--> I'm going to go reflect in the corner>.<


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What is NTRs and RTs?
@ejusdemgeneris
I agree^_^ My experience with the subject is smutty shoujo where the girl can say she was "raped", but she really didn't fight much. Therefore, I really don't consider that rape. Since the question does in fact say rapist it's rather sickening to fall in love with an such an evil guy. I hold very negative emotions to rapist so reading a manga like that will put me in a bad mood. -->perhaps a murderous one?


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and if you call that sarcasm you need serious help because there is no way that resembles it at all.

I thought it was pretty damn blatant.

You were the only one that thought that. Lrn2emoticon because your attempt at sarcasm blew. 😔

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I agree^_^ My experience with the subject is smutty shoujo where the girl can say she was "raped", but she really didn't fight much. Therefore, I really don't consider that rape.

Please never get involved in law. Forcing sex on someone is rape. Just because they don't have the will or strength to fight much doesn't mean it's not rape. I feel bad for any girls who pass out drunk around you. Since they don't fight your advances too hard, it's consensual! 🙄

When the girl falls for the rapist in manga, I tend to drop the series because I'm not looking for some terrible smut that's extremely unrealistic emotionally. I wonder if the Japanese like that "push you down and force myself onto you" kinds of relationships. 😕


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I thought it was pretty damn blatant.

You were the only one that thought that. Lrn2emoticon because your attempt at sarcasm blew. 😔

Yes, I was the only one.

Subtlety's a lost art, it seems.


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Please never get involved in law. Forcing sex on someone is rape. Just because they don't have the will or strength to fight much doesn't mean it's not rape. I feel bad for any girls who pass out drunk around you. Since they don't fight your advances too hard, it's consensual! roll eyes

No worries about me being involved in law it requires too much thought.

FORCING sex on someone is rape--> notice FORCING If they don't have the will to fight then it's not very forced. I understand paralyzing fear but if you are only mentally rejecting him and not physically then your rapist could walk free.

Strength doesn't matter you just have to make it clear to guy if you can that what he's doing is wrong and you are very unwilling.

No need to feel sorry for unconscious drunken girls 'cause I'm not gay. ewww i feel nauseous
let me rephrase the situation to apply to me::

  1. I feel bad for any GUYS who pass out drunk around you. Since they don't fight your advances too hard, it's consensual!

Where would I have to be for a person to pass out drunk-->bar? I don't go to bars prices too high and I don't have fake I.D. I don't look old enough for it either. I'm completely uninterested in having sex or anything that makes me feel disgusting. I like being a virgin.

  1. I feel bad for YOU when you pass out drunk around some guy. Since you didn't fight their advances too hard, it's consensual!

I'm not old enough to drink even though I like too. My parents won't let me. Also I don't like to get drunk around people I don't trust. Even so I feel your point was being vulnerable to the point of unconsciousness-->therefore I'll try my hardest to fight unwanted advances if it don't go my way I will put curses on the rapist--> after all I can always rely on God.

I wonder if the Japanese like that "push you down and force myself onto you" kinds of relationships. confused

Don't blame Japan-->blame the mangaka


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Don't overanalyze it.
Do you hate it when people neglect their
education so they could shoot ion beams
from swords?
You should, since it is encouraging you to stop
going to school and spend more time fighting ethereal
enemies.

What comes my opinion on this, I don't read smut or shoujo,
since I get instantaneously trolled by the surreal nature of the males,
so I cannot really say, but I do like to read twisted stuff that is not full of
fluffy bullshit.
But one thing I can say. Absolutely nothing is better
than reverse rape. Also, all rape is rape. Be it female raping a male
or seme slapping uke with his dick. Don't tell me you find these two
as something else? If you do, why would a male raping female be any
worse than vice versa or yaoi or yuri?
What, they automatically get preggo with an unwanted child?
What kind of preindustrialised wasteland do you come from?

I'm with you man.


Post #468067 - Reply To (#467988) by creepysaru
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Quote from Mamsmilk

Don't overanalyze it.
Do you hate it when people neglect their
education so they could shoot ion beams
from swords?
You should, since it is encouraging you to stop
going to school and spend more time fighting ethereal
enemies.

What comes my opinion on this, I don't read smut or shoujo,
since I get instantaneously trolled by the surreal nature of the males,
so I cannot really say, but I do like to read twisted stuff that is not full of
fluffy bullshit.
But one thing I can say. Absolutely nothing is better
than reverse rape. Also, all rape is rape. Be it female raping a male
or seme slapping uke with his dick. Don't tell me you find these two
as something else? If you do, why would a male raping female be any
worse than vice versa or yaoi or yuri?
What, they automatically get preggo with an unwanted child?
What kind of preindustrialised wasteland do you come from?

Getting pregnant with your rapist child is very unfortunate. T.T
If that happen to me I would keep the baby.
Curse the rapist.
Watch satisfied as his life is fucked over and take his money^_^

Do you know any sites about guys getting raped? I don't understand the emotional pain they have.


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14 years ago
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Who the hell would fall for their rapist!? 😲
just the fact that he raped someone instantly makes him a f***ed up person!
why would someone fall for that..


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