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16 years ago
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You are right... so I better stop >_>
even thought I don't really know what you mean with Pushy... what about I said is Pushy? the loincloth monster?
We polluted the Moon, and now Bacteria live in it, as such Bacteria living in the moon are Aliens, even thought they got there because of us, they are still life outside earth.
The giant squids are very real... the octopuses have yet to be confirmed, but since they live on the ocean floor or in Coral, the chances of finding one as big as a house are slim at best.
16 years ago
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Oh sorry, what part of "aliens don't exist" is naive? Maybe you already met an alien?
This.
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There is nothing but dust outside earth.
Are you retarted?
Okay...how about making some arguments? This post of yours was just a spam. Can you at least tell me the reasons you believe in aliens (and I mean intelligent life forms) instead of insulting me?!
Well, I think most of you believe in the theorie of evolution. I don't believe in that. If there really is evolution and humans descend from monkeys how come monkeys nowadays don't evolve into humans? Did the evolution just stop at one time or what? All creatures stay what they are after they are born and don't evolve (except caterpillars but that's another story)
16 years ago
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what the...
Evolution is not something you can grasps in your life time, you have to compare bones of different generations in order to see what mutations took place and with ones just plainly disappeared... maybe I should make a more detailed explanation... shall I use puppets?
16 years ago
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Well, I think most of you believe in the theorie of evolution.
That would explain the difference from me, yes. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm curious what you consider the difference in evolution and mutation?
Mutation is certainly proven to occur in nature. When you breed that mutation and create more of it, it becomes more wide-spread, and can mutate further. Perhaps to the point where it is "normal" and no longer a mutation?
Can mutation be the first step in the longer process of evolution? Or is it not?
EDIT: @Chaos: I meant "pushy" in that you're expecting people who don't believe what you do to take your word that X happened without showing any source for your information that someone else might consider respectable. You and I believe in the theory of evolution, but he doesn't, so just saying "it is that way" doesn't change his mind on the subject. See?
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16 years ago
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Evolution is not something you can grasps in your life time, you have to compare bones of different generations in order to see what mutations took place and with ones just plainly disappeared... maybe I should make a more detailed explanation... shall I use puppets?
But just because the bones are similar, it doesn't have to mean that we descend from monkeys. It's just speculation.
Anyway let's leave it at that since evolution is not the topic of this thread. In the end nothing can be proven 100%. Believe what you want.
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16 years ago
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MAN AFTER SUCH A LONG POST!!!
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Liria I understand, But I am one that believes that anything said should be proven right or wrong, but by yourself.
For example, If I see something like, "giant octopus attacked and devoured a man"
I don't ask where can I find it, I look for it myself, and if I can't find it on my own then I ask, is a way to keep my curiosity alive and myself busy.
Is the way I work, and forgive my bluntness but is the way I think others should work...
But that is my humble opinion ^_^
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Hmmm how can I explain this in english....
Since I don't know how to translate some words I will make it short
Evolution is slow paced and happens in a more wide range, is not easy to notice, and the more complex the biology of a being is the harder it is to evolve, since evolution is not random changes, is like upgrading your computer ram memory, on the outside is going to look the same, but the performance is going to improve.
Because we (multicellular) beings are A LOT more complex than Unicellular beings our Evolution table takes more time, but because we are more complex, we can keep a lot of changes and still add more...
Mutation is a little more random or shall I say uncontrolled... Mutation is more Local (doesn't happen to whole generations, but more to individuals) this changes can either improve his life or make it a living hell (an extra toe could be useful, but is more a problem that a help) for example, people that have been playing video games for most of their life have EXCELLENT reaction times in the department of processing images (IE in video games language, we can see more frames per second than the average person) however this is hardly helpful because most of said gamers don't practice sports that require them to react fast with their whole bodies, as such even if we can see something coming, we can;t dodge it (well that is the case for most games, luckily that's not my case)
That is a mutation caused by Video Games... but don't get me wrong, NOT all the gamers have it.
in what I base this? a research was done 4 years ago and the brains of 100 gamers (males and females) where analyzed (don't remember with University did it thought), (with Electroencephalography test and such) 50 where occasional gamers, 50 where hardcore gamers and the results showed that of those Hardcore gamers 94% of them had excellent results in their brain activity test and seemed to Process images faster than the average person, also the result showed that a good number of them hard problems with "reading" information...
I don't remember the details very well, but it was unconfirmed if this results where because they had been playing games for years or because this was natural in them, but the fact is that If you are a hardcore player, you can process images faster and better than normal people, that because you where naturally that way or because you love to play games :p
16 years ago
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If there really is evolution and humans descend from monkeys how come monkeys nowadays don't evolve into humans?
I think the answer to that question was that humans aren't the pinnacle of evolution. The current monkeys descended from other monkeys or pre-monkeys. As did we, but we took a different path.
But let's not go on with this here though, it's kind of derailing the thread.
16 years ago
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I said life outside of the Earth.
That doesn't necessarily mean Aliens. 🙄
There are microrganisms out there, that's very believable. They're living, and they're outside of the Earth, so yes, I believe there are living organisms outside of the Earth. The universe is huge, okay?
Also...the people here who are arguing/flaming/spamming, shut up, this is a perfectly good thread, don't ruin it for others, take your argument to PM.
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in what I base this? a research was done 4 years ago and the brains of 100 gamers (males and females) where analyzed (don't remember with University did it thought), (with Electroencephalography test and such) 50 where occasional gamers, 50 where hardcore gamers and the results showed that of those Hardcore gamers 94% of them had excellent results in their brain activity test and seemed to Process images faster than the average person, also the result showed that a good number of them hard problems with "reading" information...
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What we're talking about here is not evolution, it isn't even a mutation. This is what we call conditioning.
Mutation happens on a genetic level, UV radiation, other high frequency radiation and random chance, all cause mistakes in DNA, these mistakes only become mutations if the cell can divide and continue to live after the damage becomes permanent. The only types of mutations that you can pass on are if the mutation is passed on to you through your parents, or somehow, there is a genetic mistake made in your gametes (sperm/eggs)
Now, evolution is a mutation that proves useful for a species (this doesn't happen often) , and something forces the norm of the species to conform to that mutation, such as a natural disaster. Sometimes the original species remains, and the evolved form of the species will usually be unable to breed with the original, and that is evolution, a lot of random chances, don't you love nature?
Oh yeah, about polluting the moon with micro organisms, there is zero percent chance that those are still alive. Bacteria like that need: water, food, usually oxygen, and somewhere where they aren't exposed to intense radiation, none of these conditions exist on the moon. Viruses, don't need the food or oxygen, but I should think that they've been irradiated quite thoroughly by now. So pretty much we just littered the moon with little bacterial corpses.
16 years ago
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Can you at least tell me the reasons you believe in aliens (and I mean intelligent life forms) instead of insulting me?!
No.
I don't belive in aliens. I corrected you already, but it seems that you're more stupid that I though.
Far-off places with sweet sounding names.
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