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Post #233266 - Reply To (#233259) by Calíbre
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16 years ago
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Someday, there will be "Internet Police" that monitors our internet activities...

Have you heard of the patriot act?

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I was about to say that sounds like the great firewall of china to me.


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Once i saw saw Iowa, I thought typical.


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16 years ago
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This is America. You can't expect anymore than that. Making big deals about child security and such. Look at 4kids, what do they cut out? Mature themes, inappropriate language, and gore. Apparently, in America, when you cut someone blood won't come gushing out. It's the same with the loli man.


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You forgot about guns. The day I saw that they butchered out every single gun on One Piece was the day I just gave up on watching any anime on TV.

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Reminds me of all the stories about people getting their internet cut off because some ass decided to threaten your ISP for downloading a fansub. Not as bad as getting your salad tossed for twenty years but still not a situation to look forward to.

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Seems the only people interesting in covering this case are people who support the guy. Not surprising since the dirtier "child porn" portion of the case has been shot down by the judge already, leaving obscenity charges (a.k.a.- is Hentai and Yaoi art?) for prosecutors to pursue.


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Seriously?

Like Dr.Love said, it's fantasy. How can you arrest someone for something that was thought up in someone else's head, and then put on paper with just strokes of the pencil/pen/brush?

It's like arresting a kid for indecent exposure just because they drew a pussy or a dick in their textbook...


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Seriously?

Like Dr.Love said, it's fantasy. How can you arrest someone for something that was thought up in someone else's head, and then put on paper with just strokes of the pencil/pen/brush?

it is a precaution. they want to be sure that he won't turn out to be a child molester.


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Seriously?

Like Dr.Love said, it's fantasy. How can you arrest someone for something that was thought up in someone else's head, and then put on paper with just strokes of the pencil/pen/brush?

it is a precaution. they want to be sure that he won't turn out to be a child molester.

I don't believe that's the issue so much as whether possessing fictional representations of what can be interpreted as underaged people engaging in sexual activities do harm to society. Seeing that that part of the charge that was thrown out, we can conclude that fictional representations are not punishable.

The current issue is whether some of the manga he had are obscene or serious works of art. The obscenity charges are based on an undisclosed number of panels that feature scenes that the prosecutors deemed offensive.

If found guilty, it could potentially open people purchasing works using minors (seventeen and under) or characters that look like minors in sexual activities to litigation. When you consider the number of works involving highschoolers and younger, that amounts to a considerable number of people, whether they are fans of manga, comics, anime or cartoons.


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it is a precaution. they want to be sure that he won't turn out to be a child molester.

Then we might as well lock up all the kids who steal a couple of candies from the candy store, since they might rob banks later on...

🤨 There goes half of the population.

Precaution is BS. They first have to deal with offenders that actually committed a crime. They're not Gods, they don't know what a person will do, how events will flow. Yes, he might turn into a child molester, but there's an equal chance that he won't and would just continue to indulge into his fantasies. Most people can keep fantasy and reality apart, or else 50% of the MU members would've already committed a murder/attempting some impossible skill (i.e. flying).


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That is why I love ya Dr Love 😛

and like i said the so called child porn case was about the guys that where drawn in an androgynous form with no pubic hair... I bet the defendant lawyer just said something like "They are kids because they don't have pubic hair? never hear of shaving before?"

glad the charge was dropped, now they need to BUZZ OFF

Anyone knows the Definition of Art?

An object regarded as Art today may not have been perceived as such when it was first made, in short anything (ANYTHING) can be art as long as people can collect it...

heck Stone Collections glued together are art >_>

This whole case is Bullshit, bullshit I tell you


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Quote from Dr. Love

Quote from aneste

it is a precaution. they want to be sure that he won't turn out to be a child molester.

Then we might as well lock up all the kids who steal a couple of candies from the candy store, since they might rob banks later on...

🤨 There goes half of the population.

Precaution is BS. They first have to deal with offenders that actually committed a crime. They're not Gods, they don't know what a person will do, how events will flow. Yes, he might turn into a child molester, but there's an equal chance that he won't and would just continue to indulge into his fantasies. Most people can keep fantasy and reality apart, or else 50% of the MU members would've already committed a murder/attempting some impossible skill (i.e. flying).

but you see they are too scared of that %50 possibility...
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but it seems funny to arrest a fantasizing guy instead of a real child molester. i think they just wanted tı show that they are powerful or something 😔


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I would dare to say that the chances of that can't be calculated

It depends on many things, the person character, his social circle, his emotional state... I mean even "good" people do bad things when they are over the edge, so is silly to calculate the chances of a person becoming a child molester

I would say most of the people that read loli are under a 1% of becoming a child molester, now as they grow older and are unable to get a steady GF or are unable to maintain their sanity, then and only then the changes go a little over that

a 50% chance means that the guy will molest one of every two child's that he is given the chance to be alone with... and that is quite the huge margin


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Well it since the child porn part was dropped I'm just guessing he lives in a very conservative area where people feel they have the right to squash anything that doesn't agree with their ideals, I mean common sense says with the child stuff dropped there shouldn't be a case against him but of course holier than thou types tend to keep pushing things like this as far as they possibly can.


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Just because he had the manga they had no right to arrest him. He did not commit any crime and I honestly think there many people like him. A lot of people has porn and collects them yet none of them gets arrested. The reason is obviously that they did not do anything illegal just like that man. The government is messed up.


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16 years ago
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i can only say one thing. wow.
its not like he was the one who thought of the story... >_>
we all read things with people getting killed all the time, will we all turn into murderers? no. i dont think reading something determines the person u are IRL.


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16 years ago
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It's stupid!!!

How can they waste money, time, etc. in this when they're a lot of murders, thieves, rapists, etc.!!??

What the hell is wrong with that people??


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