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15 years ago
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I don't know, really... It's a delicate case, because some people are just that downright cruel. Like, anyone heard of that girl that got tortured continuously by a bunch of guys in Japan? That's just so horrifying that I think the offenders should go through the same ordeal. x.x And I'm usually not up for crude methods, that's how bad it is. ;-;

But for "stupid" things, I don't think death penalty is necessary. Especially if they got convicted on ambiguous evidence.

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Ain't this a repeater?

I don't really care.
Capital punishment doesn't
solve anything, but I don't really
care what they do with people
like that.


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15 years ago
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All that eye for an eye buisness eh?

There have been many cases where they have killed the wrong person through capital punishment, so I say the thought of using capital punishment is to be thoroughly thought out first. In most cases, not even considering it.

The whole therepy thing is controversial too. We had people who had been in jail before visit us at school and I remember one guy saying he just bullshitted his way through their "psychological" system after he learned to say what they wanted to hear.
I guess it works for some though.


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15 years ago
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I'm all for the Death Penalty, personally. For Murder and/or Torture and/or False Imprisonment. Anything else isn't bad enough for capital punishment, but such things are.

As for the whole rehab thing, I don't think it works. Most people who kill were like that from a very, very young age due to traumatic experiences. I really doubt a few months with a therapist would change anything. Not to mention they would just tell the therapist what they wanted to hear. Therapy doesn't even work normally very well (I have a little sister who we adopted who has a thing for lying and stealing. Shes been in therapy 2 years and has only improved a little bit) I mean, yeah, shes improved, but she still lies and steals. So any serial killer that would go through therapy would still be a killer, just slightly improved (less violent?). In my opinion, anyway.


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Ain't this a repeater?

It got locked though~


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for the extremely cruel and inherently malevolent, i would rather have them go into exile at some faraway place that's completely isolated from human civilization...i believe every person and living being has the right to live, no matter how twisted or horrible he/she is...however, once that person endangers others' lives, they should be separated from society instead of get locked up in some prison cell...true tragedy is the separation of oneself from the rest of one's kind....therefore, those who commit such crimes worthy of death should have the right to live on, though they must be removed from society to suffer in tragedy alone...


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The death penalty is not cruel and unusual punishment and is justifiable in most cases in which it is handed down in the United States.


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I don't know.....
And YES, controversial threads are allowed. Stop asking about that. Only if a thread gets out of hand does it get locked. Controversial or not, that doesn't matter.

you mean it's okay only if the new mods make it right?

anyway, death penalty is illogical. It does not in anyway help society. A lobotomy is more reasonable. Make these criminals into mindless machines to work for the rest of their life. All their work effort/money earned will be given to the victims' family.


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They shouldn't be killed. Maybe put them to work and hope they feel guilty. You also won't falsely accuse someone and not be able to take back your accusation (you can't let them out if they're dead).


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I personally agree with death penalty. Because the punishment will bring fear to other criminal. If u just put these killer behind bars there are still a chance that they escape from prison. About the exile thing, how can you guarantee that the criminal will not go back to society and what if they keep coming back and what if they don't want to follow the order?

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Criminals should be slaved for the rest of their lives doing horrible work that no one else would dare to do... That way they are actually helpful to society... then again, you can't slave a person for stealing a watch or a ring, but murder? heck yeah (as long as said person is 100% guilty)


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It's a delicate issue, some people go off the rails but aren't inherently bad people, others... should be locked in a hole forever, but I can't support killing them, from both a moral and economical point of view.

Not to mention whoever has the job of killing a man, that's a harsh way to live.


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Personally, I don't care either way. 😛
Whichever is cheaper is better.


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Quote from Mamsmilk

Ain't this a repeater?

I don't really care.
Capital punishment doesn't
solve anything, but I don't really
care what they do with people
like that.

You were quite against it before though...

And I'm moving this to 18+ doc. It's a mature topic no matter how I look at it.


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15 years ago
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i love the death penalty, but it needs serious reform.

first, to even be up for the death penalty, you have o have committed a SERIOUS crime, be identifiable form at least 2 cameras, or have 5 eye witnesses point you out

in the case of rape you have to be convicted through dna at least 3 times, less if they were extremely violent (disfigureingly so) or was also a murder.

in case of manslaughter, lets say drunk and crash your car, kill a family, if you are barely over the limit its jail time, but if you are 3x or more over limit and obviously drunk (really big and built people can handle far more, than lets say, an average party girl before they become visibly drunk) you are to be killed immediately. same for anyone else who commits a serious crime on a serious drug (pot is minor, lsd is minor, pcp is SERIOUS, crack is SERIOUS, herion is SERIOUS)

lethal injections? gas? electric chair?

all wastes of money.

lets go eye for an eye. you burn someone to death, you get burnt to death. you choke them we choke you.

and how hard is it to make a stainless room, kill him in there. OR better yet, for the more patricuarly evil people, they hurt you and give you over to med schools, and they fix you, or at least try. and it repeats like that until you die.

and the horrible crimes in life are to be handed punishment BY the state. we wont ask family to do it, but lesser crimes, like the dude is now paralyzed legs down, we give them buttons, 2, one for each knee cap and they are attached to 45 caliber guns. the person who was effected gets to give out punishment, if he forgives you than yay, if he doesn't than you are screwed.

AND ALL EXCICUTIONS are to be videotaped, and distributed online, for a fee. or at least for pay per view like thing. that generates funds for the lesser criminals to live off of.

you have a sick bastard, lets say in this example sadam husane (cant spell the name) how many people do you know would have payed $10 or more to see him die?

you realise that their are a crap load of people out their who believe that prison is better than their own living situation, why should they have to pay the government to support the 20-40000 it costs to keep a dirt bag alive in prison a year?

if a prison cant afford to keep inmates alive than they die off of hunger or resort to cannibalism, you could be DAMN sure that any one who comes out of that kind of a place will never want to go back the their again. and will straiten out. THAT would be a crime deturant.


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