of course you can be in a long lasting (and fullfilling relationship without lust,ever heard of asexual ppl ?
i dont know why ppl are always trying to generalize everything and everyone. there are some who have affairs only based on sex, others have, what society considers a "normal" relationship, and then there are ppl who dont need sex at all.
if you,re so lust oriented go and get your weekly cocktail of std,s but dont look down on ppl who dont need it.
unfortunately nowadays society becomes more and more sex oriented, like every bad hollywood movie having a sex scene to show oh how good their relationship is, it couldnt possibly be a conversation instead but...i think im ranting^^
but yeah im all for emotionally based relationships and somehow its hard for me to see sex as somthg emotional....mhh maybe i,ve just watched one too many porn

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Lust is contrary to love and really only pertains to adultery and molestation in a sexual desire.

While you love and make love with your soul mate, you don't necessarily 'lust', that conception is by reason, in err. It is simply more of an intricate way of showing your love and spending that meaningful moment of the relationship. If lust gets in the way then it is not love, only personal sexual gratification.

OMG 🤣 🤣 🤣 you are so full of it (crap that is). You sound like an incredibly naive and immature person making up seemingly intelligent philosophies. How about you save your biases,live a little longer, learn and understand a whole lot more before you condemn something yopu obviously have no understanding of.

No one gives a shit what trite garbage you write here.

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Lust is contrary to love and really only pertains to adultery and molestation in a sexual desire.

While you love and make love with your soul mate, you don't necessarily 'lust', that conception is by reason, in err. It is simply more of an intricate way of showing your love and spending that meaningful moment of the relationship. If lust gets in the way then it is not love, only personal sexual gratification.

There is no love without lust. Love without lust is friendship or family love. True love between two adult people always have lust.

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of course you can be in a long lasting (and fullfilling relationship without lust,ever heard of asexual ppl ?
i dont know why ppl are always trying to generalize everything and everyone. there are some who have affairs only based on sex, others have, what society considers a "normal" relationship, and then there are ppl who dont need sex at all.
if you,re so lust oriented go and get your weekly cocktail of std,s but dont look down on ppl who dont need it.
unfortunately nowadays society becomes more and more sex oriented, like every bad hollywood movie having a sex scene to show oh how good their relationship is, it couldnt possibly be a conversation instead but...i think im ranting^^
but yeah im all for emotionally based relationships and somehow its hard for me to see sex as somthg emotional....mhh maybe i,ve just watched one too many porn

Jeez, the way you're going on about this, you make it seem like most of society today thinks that they need to do nothing but fuck around without protection for their relationship to be successful. 😐

And nobody in this thread was even looking down on people who don't need sex. All they were doing was voicing their opinion about what they think is true love. Stop being so butthurt about all this.

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Lust is contrary to love and really only pertains to adultery and molestation in a sexual desire.

While you love and make love with your soul mate, you don't necessarily 'lust', that conception is by reason, in err. It is simply more of an intricate way of showing your love and spending that meaningful moment of the relationship. If lust gets in the way then it is not love, only personal sexual gratification.

OMG 🤣 🤣 🤣 you are so full of it (crap that is). You sound like an incredibly naive and immature person making up seemingly intelligent philosophies. How about you save your biases,live a little longer, learn and understand a whole lot more before you condemn something yopu obivouxly have no understanding of.

I do not wish for you to be ignorant and misunderstand me, there are many types of lust, many branches of an emotional tree with it's roots being fear. The fear of not getting what you want, so you have a crave for it. That crave is a sign of an insecure ego. The lust I'm speaking of is immoral lust, the lust that plagues your mind with filth. The lust of coveting for something can be both good and evil, but that depends on your persception and how big your world is.

If you believe in most philosophies, it shows you do not seek for the truth on your own accord or are incapable of having your own logical sense about them and against them. While many philosophies hinge on the truth, they do not give an in depth analysis of debauchery, antipathy, aversion, adultery, incest, molestation, certain phobias, ect. They are often what emotionally unstable people use to legalistically blame someone else instead of admitting their own inability to communicate clearly.

Like college professors who desperately want to bully the world into conforming with the opinions of their own over inflated ego (see MLA.-APA., A.D. to C.E., and 'don't split an infinitive').

It is only you who are accountable of what you do and believe. What you grow accustomed to in life, what influences are upon you that either make drastic or subtle changes in your conception of everything around you.

So, while you think lust is a justified form to love, think, is this about my selfish aspirations or the aspirations of both of us in the love making? Is it passionate lust, or greedy lust that is just commiting evil while trying to shrug it off as good or point fingers?

Lust is perfectly acceptable on the one hand, if you use it for good and not evil. If for good, let him be; let her be, they are intimate and the relationship recognized to fruition. It depends on the function of lust. They cannot be unequal in their function, they have to be stable or else it will fail.

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Jeez, the way you're going on about this, you make it seem like most of society today thinks that they need to do nothing but fuck around without protection for their relationship to be successful.

Well put and thats exactly how it is, isnt it ?
I dont have any statistics but i,d say at least 50% of all break ups are caused by cheating or being attracted to someone else.

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Jeez, the way you're going on about this, you make it seem like most of society today thinks that they need to do nothing but fuck around without protection for their relationship to be successful.

Well put and thats exactly how it is, isnt it ?
I dont have any statistics but i,d say at least 50% of all break ups are caused by cheating or being attracted to someone else.

That's more like a lack of both self-control and common sense.

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Jeez, the way you're going on about this, you make it seem like most of society today thinks that they need to do nothing but fuck around without protection for their relationship to be successful.

Well put and thats exactly how it is, isnt it ?
I dont have any statistics but i,d say at least 50% of all break ups are caused by cheating or being attracted to someone else.

That's more like a lack of both self-control and common sense.

As true as that might be, it doesnt change one bit about the fact that most humans only act on their animalistic desires, which is partly what i was criticising.

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[quote=loosecannon504]Jeez, the way you're going on about this, you make it seem like most of society today thinks that they need to do nothing but fuck around without protection for their relationship to be successful.

Well put and thats exactly how it is, isnt it ?
I dont have any statistics but i,d say at least 50% of all break ups are caused by cheating or being attracted to someone else.

That's more like a lack of both self-control and common sense.

As true as that might be, it doesnt change one bit about the fact that most humans only act on their animalistic desires, which is partly what i was criticising.[/quote]
Well, just as long as you realize that all of us aren't like that...

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both of them.
BUT FIRST COMES LOVE. without love, lust won't last too long.
and if there is lust only, then it wont last too long=D

it's like a formula XD 🤣

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definitely love...
lust will just go away..it will cool down sometime...
but true love will not!! it will last forever!!

When you love someone a lot, it's natural to lust after them. Lust isn't exactly a deviated feeling or something you can separate from love. Hence incestuous relationships and the like.

I agree with both of these statements. But I'm a hopeless romantic. And apparently I love my "adopted" little sister sooo much it seems I might lust after her just a bit....

But love is most important in a relationship. Too many people mistake lust for love and trust me, as much as they are connected, they are very different.

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both are important, but i believe lust is more... first of all, lets be realist and stop with utopian speachs about pure love and philosofical or theological arguments about what means love and lust... people hardly fall in love first, you won't suddenly fall in love with that guy or girl whose looks repulses you, there need to be at least a bit of physical atraction for to start with (since as much as humans want to deny, we are animals, unconciously we are looking for the partner who would give the best offsprings), love usually enters later, since the lust, even if very small, will make you start taking notice of the other person, looking for their good and bad points and falling in love... inf the lust is gone from a relationship, it will turn no more than a friendship... seen those a lot, couples who became friends only and would divorce to find someone to make them happy, someone who they could actually enjoy some romance, some seduction, who are no more than ways to play with both your and your partner's love and lust, and don't came saying that couples who lost thier lust for each other can still be happy together, two people in love (by love i mean love+lust) usually gets trought problems,both serious problems and small annoyances like getting back from work on a bad mood or leaving your socks on the floor, because they still desire to be with that other person, they love, they lust... now try to live your whole life with someone who you see as nothing more than a friend... certainly you will start having small grudges for all kinds of things, some your fault even, and will surelly end up not only losing the friendly love but turn it all into hatred for the other person, reason of most divorces out there.

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So, while you think lust is a justified form to love, think, is this about my selfish aspirations or the aspirations of both of us in the love making? Is it passionate lust, or greedy lust that is just commiting evil while trying to shrug it off as good or point fingers?

Lust is perfectly acceptable on the one hand, if you use it for good and not evil. If for good, let him be; let her be, they are intimate and the relationship recognized to fruition. It depends on the function of lust. They cannot be unequal in their function, they have to be stable or else it will fail.

Eh it kind of sounds like you think that the whole world can be catergorized into good/evil greedy/selfish. Thats impossible. How is lust good/evil anyways? No I don't really believe in the seven deadly sins.

First of all, lets be realist and stop with utopian speachs about pure love and philosofical or theological arguments about what means love and lust...

😲 b-but true love is well you won't stop loving someone will you.
Gravitation- The one force that can't be stopped.

🤣 jk I am kind of realistic but I do wish that true love existed.

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both are important, but i believe lust is more... first of all, lets be realist and stop with utopian speachs about pure love and philosofical or theological arguments about what means love and lust... people hardly fall in love first, you won't suddenly fall in love with that guy or girl whose looks repulses you, there need to be at least a bit of physical atraction for to start with (since as much as humans want to deny, we are animals, unconciously we are looking for the partner who would give the best offsprings), love usually enters later, since the lust, even if very small, will make you start taking notice of the other person, looking for their good and bad points and falling in love... inf the lust is gone from a relationship, it will turn no more than a friendship... seen those a lot, couples who became friends only and would divorce to find someone to make them happy, someone who they could actually enjoy some romance, some seduction, who are no more than ways to play with both your and your partner's love and lust, and don't came saying that couples who lost thier lust for each other can still be happy together, two people in love (by love i mean love+lust) usually gets trought problems,both serious problems and small annoyances like getting back from work on a bad mood or leaving your socks on the floor, because they still desire to be with that other person, they love, they lust... now try to live your whole life with someone who you see as nothing more than a friend... certainly you will start having small grudges for all kinds of things, some your fault even, and will surelly end up not only losing the friendly love but turn it all into hatred for the other person, reason of most divorces out there.

Hallelujah 😀 If you didn't bring this point up, I would of. Have to say you did a much better job than I would.

@jereith 🤣 Certain types of lust are evil? Give some examples for when it's "evil." The lust for sex (in general or for another person) is never unnatural or evil, because if there's someone out there with even the most seemingly evil and unnatural lust towards something, it's natural because he/she is human and it is impossible for it not to be natural. Love and lust go together quite often, and saying that "making love" is not lusting...I'll avoid saying who you sound like right now~ But, your posts did make me laugh. Points for that.

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