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im not ranting im asking how is noblesse overrated i think it would be a waste of a user comment to ask a question of how noblesse is overrated. btw im not trying to stop people from hating on noblesse im asking why they are doing it in the first place -_-

If you want to see why some people are "hating" on Noblesse then go read the User Comments....
There are people who are appraising it and people who are giving their reasons as to why they don't like it.
Personally I'm a huge fan of Noblesse, mostly for the completely one-sided fights with Rai and Frankenstein since they're both awesome.
And because you brought up Twilight I have to say I hate Twilight since it destroys my image of "Vampire". But I also admit that Twilight is successful and very good for those who's preferences are met by it. Just like Noblesse; if some people don't like it then let them be...
I mean, how would you feel if a Twilight lover put you on the spot for not liking Twilight? You're doing the same thing.

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what the heck did I just read?
Did you ever read any?

just to name a few (apart from Noblesse):
Melo Holic
Orange Marmalade
Nineteen, Twenty-One

all of them have a huge fanbase, and are pretty often recommended in this forum. And are pretty good...
please stop degrading web-toons, for your own sak ...

Ibleda went a bit off the deep end... Webtoons/manhwa are just another style of Eastern comics. Some are good, some are bad, just like manga or manhua. On top of Noblesse being a very well-done series, there are many other great ones such as Tower of God.
Honestly, as soon as the word "overrated" comes into play, logic takes a backseat.

"People don't change, they just give in."Kubera is the best.同人音楽 (doujin music)

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what the heck did I just read?
Did you ever read any?

just to name a few (apart from Noblesse):
Melo Holic
Orange Marmalade
Nineteen, Twenty-One

all of them have a huge fanbase, and are pretty often recommended in this forum. And are pretty good...
please stop degrading web-toons, for your own sak ...

Yes I did, quite a few. Though I might say I dropped all but Noblesse though, for the sake of it has a chapter every week without fail.
It's opinion, don't take it too hard =/. It's just what I found, and there are people who agree. Ppl who draw webtoons are not pros, as far as I know. Correct me if I'm wrong. It means they post whatever they want, and without a care for how practical it would be if printed out. I mean, look at all those wasted pages! It's the same as an amateur having a great idea but well... died somewhere on the way. The fact that Noblesse has been going on for 200+ chapters at the rate of one per week, though it might not have as much content as some, is admirable enough. I don't expect even the contents to be good. In the end... it's really just dragging out too much.

I'll admit to I'm being quite a bit biased, though I'll say as much as at least 70% of that is was meant to be true or at least what I honestly think regardless of all the bias stuff. I'll apologize if I offended anyone there.

edit woops... wrong reply button lol. Any ways to change it?

the devil king is bored and crepuscule are pretty good as well. I've seen MANY manga that were far worse so I agree categorizing webtoons as failures is ridiculous. Oh, and in a spot light I can list quite a few reasons I hate twilight. Whether it's the elementary writing style of meyer, or the 2d female lead, or the pointless and unexplained sparkling, or the again unexplained powers, or even the cliche self tortured male lead. Why can I do this? Because I resd through it and hate twilight for it's flaws, not its fanbase. The reason most can't do it for noblesse is that they dropped it quick, or are trying to be cool by bhating popular things. That being said I don't have an issue with people who hate noblesse for a reason dictated by their own personal taste, but using a severely flawed series as an example was a mistake lol.

Basically if you can't list a reason "in the spot light" then you were just trashing a series for no reason, and thus should go die. So I wouldn't hold it against him much.

Also some webtoons aren't drawn by professionals, but that is corrected if the story gains popularity. The way naver does it is take high ranking amateur stories, band hooks them up with a professional artist to be redrawn. Oh and there aren't rly blank pages. Web toons are meant to be read in one giant strip, and are formatted to make that easier.

(Believe it ornot noblesses artist is not a professional one I believe. I think the professional one is noblesse S. Which u have to buy)

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

Whuts all this talk about professional and nonprofessional... It's the same for manga isn't it? It's like having a debut, it's pointless to think about how professional a webtoon artist is.

Let's pleaaase end this conversation.

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Whuts all this talk about professional and nonprofessional... It's the same for manga isn't it? It's like having a debut, it's pointless to think about how professional a webtoon artist is.

Let's pleaaase end this conversation.

He was just saying he thought manga had better quality control. Imo its a legitimate inquiry.

Although I didn't address his "dragging out" problem cuz I didn't see it. If you read noblesse the story always progresses in a relatively slow pace... imo it feels much more natural than the usual climax to low style. That being said it may be too slow for most, but if you want to gradually understand a. Long story instead of breezing through it, or having tons of filler, I think noblesses pace is great.

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

I didn't want to drag this on but.. ;-;
Why is he even comparing the two? And Isn't the point the story rather than the art.
Manga and webtoons are so different in many elements.... That's like comparing break dancing to ballet, sure they're both dancing but they're completely different and comparing them just makes you look like a ignorant idiot.

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I didn't want to drag this on but.. ;-;
Why is he even comparing the two? And Isn't the point the story rather than the art.
Manga and webtoons are so different in many elements.... That's like comparing break dancing to ballet, sure they're both dancing but they're completely different and comparing ...

Most Web toons are the korean equivalent of manga developed solely for online reading. Its not so different from manga, so comparing the two isn't that ridiculous... they are just formatted differently. Also while I agree that story is all that's needed, and anything above stick figures would suffice, some people rely heavily on the art of a manga/manhwa. In fact some consider it more important than the story.... not many but they still exist. So its really not a bad idea to bring it up. That being said I LOVE the art of noblesse 😀

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

in a way its sort of like naruto and one piece in that it take something well known(vampires) and makes them into a super powerful being. i like it and it has a lot of pros but people do tend to overlook the cons like its standard shounen style and theme of protecting friends as well as the creating of super powerful characters that are invincible to ordinary people. and you cannot say that it is not well know because, although it is not as well known as naruto it is on more reading lists than fullmetal alchemist.

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Web toons are the korean equivalent of manga developed solely for online reading. Its not so different from manga, so comparing the two isn't that ridiculous... they are just formatted differently. Also while I agree that story is all that's needed, and anything above stick figures would suffice, ...

But they are different in numerous ways and besides webtoons have brought a lot of original flavor and stories.
I guess it isn't our problem if this guy just wants to read things with pretty art but a trashy story.

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in a way its sort of like naruto and one piece in that it take something well known(vampires) and makes them into a super powerful being. i like it and it has a lot of pros but people do tend to overlook the cons like its standard shounen style and theme of protecting friends as well as the creating ...

A legit problem. Though his mind control powers are available in most legends. The ability to control blood is just an addition for super powers. While the other vampires have an explained reason for their insane power in the form of souls(frankenstein as well), and humans having constant genetic manipulation to increase their strength, rai has none of this. So atm he is the only char that is freakishly overpowered for no reason at all. Vampire elders just get stronger every generation, and humans increase their power through contracts and science. While new the soul thing isn't ridiculous, as long as they explain the reason for the alteration from the usual legends I don't have an issue with it. So since there is another reasonable(in fantasy) aspect that caused the insane power, I don't think its quite like naruto. That being said, it does have a shounen feel.... cuz its a shounen manhwa XD. Almost every shounen manga does that theme, and even a lot of seinen... that's cuz it's respectable to look out for your friends.

@the above. Name a few reasons why they are different aside from format and color.

Hmm apparently it isn't classified as shounen... always assumed it was tho. Anyway if you think of it as shounen its basically natural to have that kind of theme. That story focus has existed as long as the focus of protecting the love interest has. Its the most normal way to display that a character isn't a monster. Also vampires have always existed as something invincible to humans. Without devine or astral interference humans always lost.

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

I personally don’t hate it, but be realistic, this isn’t the best story.. The part about being overrated in my mind is about fans who are convinced of the awesomeness of a story while it is really average..

Reasons:

The story is repetitive, following the same pattern for the whole story in stairs shape, only with more stronger opponents.

The characters are good, but we don’t get to know anything of them for 176 chapters, which is low paced and after the mystery is just blown away. We get to know a whole lot about them. Instead of giving hints, about their identities.

The art get worst over the chapters…good art in the beginning…bad art in the latest chapters

The vampires are not original and can be linked to old ideas of several authors.

I read all the chapters…and still are..but I’m not waiting for anything special at this point…and I would like reasons why it is a ''really'' good story insted...

• and not I don’t like twilight and such…

But how the heck can they be so fast and always be so late in the ongoing fight ?

Someone arrived with reason to criticize o,o. As for the stronger opponents thing, I think they've finall reached the top with the nobles, the elders, and frank/rai. There will probably be no one at or above this level other than werewolves. It just took a long time to get to the top, but its pretty normal to have stronger and stronger opponents as you run into higher ranking members... is it not? As for the slow story... I can't say anything. That attribute is actually a possitive to me, but I can easily see why it wouldt get under someones skin. Can't be anything other than fact that noblesse moves slower than almost any other series. At 200 chapters only 1-2 of the organization elders are known, the werewolves are not present yet, and the three supporting members still can't match a mid rank noble 3 on 1... definitely way outa range for those who enjoy fast paced stories

(Also crombell(sp?) Is most likely the strongest in the union)

Few favs
Comedy:
Kyou kara ore wa!!, Mx0, Angel Densetsu, Skip Beat, Ai Kora, The Devil King is Bored

Romance:
Hana to Akuma, No bra, Shinigami Trilogy, kindan no koi de ikou, Usagi Drop, Threads of Time, Girl Friends

Most under rated:
Kindan no koi de ikou, kyou kara ore wa!.
m0r l83r... maybe >_>

Why are people giving out all these reasons and stating that Noblesse is good/bad like it's a fact?
If you like the art and the story then Noblesse would be good in your opinion and if you didn't like the art/story then Noblesse would be bad in your opinion.
This thread is no better than those two pro-active Mormons in nice suits that came to my house last week and tried to explain to me why their theory of God is better than my belief in evolution >> (no offense meant towards Mormons, I just don't like people that try to convert others).

Besides there are hardly, if any, popular manga/manhwa that don't use ideas that already exist somewhere else in the world. So deciding on the worth of a manga/manhwa with "originality" pretty much fails.

btw i would like to point out if noblesse had as many readers as FMA im pretty sure rating would go down to like 8.14 or something