Gah, you new members with all your "new" genres! Be conservative, dammit.

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Warning:really long rant ahead.

1.As I said before, it's more useful than topical. Topical is not a good genre because it doesn't give you a good idea about the contents of the manga (except in the case of a butterfly-catching cliche` shoujo manga and a non-butterfly-catching cliche` shoujo manga).
While "Music" on the other hand can be used to describe mangas that focus on the music industry, and that's pretty easy to spot in a manga, ne? It shouldn't be as controversial as the "topical" genre.

2.We have sports, so why not Music too? On TV there's sports channels (sports), porn channels (hentai), movie channels (oneshots prolly), shows aimed at females or males (shoujo/shounen), children's channels (but a kodomo genre would be pretty useless here as there aren't people who should be interested around here), soap operas (josei) and then there's MUSIC channels.

3.Again, we have Fantasy and Supernatural, which are pretty much the same thing. We have Harem, which only has 100+ series. Then why do we keep it? Cause it's useful, damn useful for people who want to read a harem manga. Same goes for Martial arts. Just tick the box and you're set, there's a whole list of Harem mangas. But for music you either have to ask on the "looking for" thread or browse around searching for different keywords in the synopsis. And even then you're not sure on how much "music" is there -if it's a side element or an important part of the series.

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i agree that it could be useful as a genre, but if we don't stop with the new genre's we will end up with Guro as a genre, which was previously shot down, as its a sub-genre, which is what music could be considered, in that context....

i think..

idk, my brain has been failing lately.

How many manga fall under the "music" as genre? Nana? Beck? Nodame? And how much of that music would actually have to be in the manga to consider it to fall into music genre? I mean there are countelss oneshots - yaoi, shoujo, take your pick - in which there is a music teacher, but there is very little of music/music industry shown. What then? Are those manga fit to be in music genre?

Music as a keyword isn't bad. Genre is going a bit too overboard with it, I think.

Edit: Okay, I saw a list of manga that'd fall under the music category posted by Haevenn (sorry to shorten it, your username breaks my fingers ). Okay, there are a bit of those. But I still stand by my question - how much of music would have to be there to consider the manga to fall into music genre?

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Good save, Layhe! ;D Nana~ nana~ na~! *points at Heaven*

... But seriously, why not just keep the main genres? As Layhe said, how much music-focused must the manga be before it's labeled as music? A manga could be all about music, or it could be about a girl who plays violin, but the story focuses more on who her love partner will be.

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@Layhe mostly, (Doc only seems to stand on the sidelines and laugh >.<'')
I have to admit I was only thinking of Beck and Othello when I meant the music industry, because Nodame and Ginkyu Meika(sp?) fall in the same category but don't have any traces of industry in them.

I'd say something where everything revolves around music. A music school, a band...if it's an integral part of the manga or of the main character's life.
Like if the main character is a girl who strives to become a pop singer and the manga follows her struggles in achieving her dream, while showing her performing and recording. That's a "music" manga.
But if the focus shifts from her dream to romance, then it's not. Atleast not any longer. Depends on how much the manga followed the idea of the girl's dream. If the idea is dropped within the first volume it's not. If the idea is dropped after the first 4 volumes, then it's still a music manga.

So basically if it's not limited to one character or a few instances. Same with martial arts and sports. If the main focus of the manga is sports or the main character's life revolves around sports, then yep it's sports. If only a supportive character's life is around sports (as in no sports in every 5 chapters or so) then it's not.

Obviously a music teacher or a main character who plays music just as a hobby won't do. The teacher either has to play often and be "in the scene" (...in lack of better terms -__-'') or the main character must be passionate about music and intend to make it pro, while the manga follows the course. Or another one, if the "music" part heavily influences the plot.

So:
Beck/Nana/Detroit metal city/Nodame are obviously "music" mangas.
Othello features music, but it's not the main focus. However the band is featured alot and changes the course of the manga. "Music", I'd say.
Violinist of Hameln only features music as a weird way of summoning, although it has alot of references to classical music. Not "music".

..did that make sense? ^_^''

Hmm, okay, I do see your point. But what about new manga, that promise the focus on music but have only one-two chapters scanlated? What then? Waiting for more volumes to decide whether or not it should fall under the music genre?

Let's take Shinjo Mayu's (bleah) one-shot Lewd Melody, Obscene Fingers (I can't believe I'm taking her story as an example, ugh). While it does concentrate on the smut and romance part, there is a big chunk of music industry there. A contest, even. And what about Ai wo Utau Yori Ore ni Oborero!? (Yes, I'm making it up as I go along).

Putting manga into genres would be difficult. And if Manick will accept it (it's all up to him, in the end), then I can see all the people wanting Film or Modelling as a genre. I think there was a suggestion of 'Entertainment' as a genre and if we are talking about it, I think Entertainment would be the best way out of it. But I'm still all for keywords, they are easier and well, there aren't problems with classifying manga.

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I agree, it's all up to Manick, after all it's him doing the job, we're just complaining

Unfortunately I couldn't find Shinjo Mayu's oneshot (I agree, she's horrible ..I can already feel my brains getting numb just from reading her page)
but if it has a music contest (if it's a oneshot even more) then why shouldn't it be a music oneshot?
Actually...entertainment might be an even better idea . Same lines for classifying manga tho`.

And as for all other mangas, you still have to wait until having a properly genre-ed manga, right?

@Thezombieking: Guro is a subdivision of Hentai, most people reading hentai know better what to expect. But entertainment/music isn't a subdivision of anything...