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But what about Yahiko? You can't forget that he's supposedly dead, yet Pain has Nagato's powers, but Yahiko's looks?


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But what about Yahiko? You can't forget that he's supposedly dead, yet Pain has Nagato's powers, but Yahiko's looks?

I'm still not sure about their names
so Yahiko was the blond(?) one and Nagato was the one with black hair who had the Rinnegan at the time Jiraiya trained them?


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But what about Yahiko? You can't forget that he's supposedly dead, yet Pain has Nagato's powers, but Yahiko's looks?

I'm still not sure about their names
so Yahiko was the blond(?) one and Nagato was the one with black hair who had the Rinnegan at the time Jiraiya trained them?

Yep.. 🙂

Maybe Nagato and Yahiko are both dead, as for as their personalities concern.. They've 'fused' together, and formed Pain..

Maybe Nagato was heavily wounded, and Yahiko offered him to go in his body..


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Well, Akatsuki has been using dead bodies since they were introduced after the time skip, so I don't see it as at all unusual that Nagato might be using Yahiko's body for his plans, more like business as usual. I feel Nagato's body is elsewhere and his consciousness is controlling the 6 pains, the way that Jiraiya and the frogs were explaining the Rinnengan as being in a surveillance booth kinda gave me tat feeling of separation.


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Yep.. smile

Maybe Nagato and Yahiko are both dead, as for as their personalities concern.. They've 'fused' together, and formed Pain..

Maybe Nagato was heavily wounded, and Yahiko offered him to go in his body..

I think that it may have been the other way around. Like when Obito was really badly injured, and he offered the sharigan to Kakashi.

So perhaps, Yahiko was really badly injured trying to save Nagato, and as a result, Nagato gave himself fully (saying that Nagato is dead) to "the cause."
Pain's belief and personality more closer reflects Nagato's "I'm going to beat up anyone in my way" than Yahiko's "I just don't want to see any of my friends hurt."


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Honestly I have no goods ideas about Pains full power just it seems that he can create bodies(or took them) to harbor parts of his soul perhaps based upon previous encounters with people that were strong with those types of charka(earth, water, etc.)

Glad the fights on hold....felt like a never ending DBZ fight...AGH!

As far as Tobi goes I still believe hes most likely Madara and he only going along with Pain cause its convenient.

Yahiko seems to look a lot like Sasukes big companion....if that’s true then I can't really explain Pains ability. Maybe Yahiko gave up and had his power taken away?

Pain just seems to be a absorber-torn or something with all that power and the whole body thing. Maybe his personality is dead cause his taken on all those bodies hes lost his sense of self.

Detachment + lots of power + split between multiple bodies= god complex?


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Okay these are the spoilers that are going around right now.. 😛 Don't know if any of them are true.. Choose which is the most plausible..

Spoiler 1:

cover ji and naru

sauke and itachi

brothers (itachi and sas)...the fateful battle is now

Sasuke: you said we'll finish this right? Itachi: ...

Sasuke: Let's get it ON!!! the fight to end it all

Itachi: Yeah, whatever

Itachi does something and there is a close up on the two sharingans

meanwhile, Tobi's sharingan

It seems that kakashi's group can't see it, Naruto: WTF?!?!?

Kakashi: his jutus...there's something...

Yamato: another incredible jutsu user has appeared.

Kakakshi: hinata!

Hinata: ok! Byakugan!
.
Naruhoe so?

Hinata: nothing weird....but...

Naruhoe: Hinata

His chakra is disordered..as if he was in a genjutsu...

Kakakshi lifes up his headband

kakashi: ...

Tobi: (sharingan and byakugan huh...) can you guys include me in the conversation?

Kakashi: ..are you after naruto?

Tobi: Not telling

Naruto: We have to get to Where sasuke is! We haven't got time to mess around with you

Tobi: I have loads of free time...I'm going to have you amuse me for a while

Naruto: I won't let you get in our way!

Spoiler 2:

Tobi and Sai know each other. Sai's real name is "Kagura。"
"Hey, well, isn't it Kagura"

Itachi was Jiraiya's spy. He purposely played it up in order to fool Naruto and Sasuke. Kisame did not know at the time, however Itachi eventually confided in him, and he decided to cooperate. He entered back into Konoha in order to protect Naruto from Akatsuki, and get a hold of him first.

Spoiler 3:

Scene change in the middle of a conversation.
As Pain was about to finish Jiraiya, Tobi's voice could be heard through Konan's paper...
"Hunt the Kyuubi. Make preparations now." "~!"
Pain instructed Konan to finish the job and as soon as he's said that, the five bodies disappeared. Immediately after, the chapter ended with Tobi summoning Pain.

Spoiler 4:

381 story VS dawn ...! ! !

Itachi: Hmm...
Itachi stood up from the throne.
Itachi: Show me the amount of hate you possess...Sasuke.
Sasuke's expression became grim.
The battle between Sasuke and Itachi.

Stirrin up - fight between the two warriors...!

Scene change to Konoha team.
Naruto's thoughts: went right through?!
Naruto: What in the hell happened dattebayo?!
Kakashi: Looks like we've met another troublesome fellow...
Konoha team were equally shocked.
Tobi: Ahaha, you're surprised, aren't ya? Actually I'm an invisible man. That's why your attack is not effective at all...so, can you hand over Uzumaki Naruto kun to me quietly?
Kiba: Don't fool around with me! It's just some kind of jutsu isn't it?!
Kiba ate something that looks like the soldier pill.
The Konoha team split to the left and right while Kiba and Akamaru charged towards Tobi with Gatsuuga.
Tobi: Supa...fast...
However, (Kiba/Akamaru) went through...
Kiba: Cheh...!
Kiba gnashed his teeth...
Tobi: HAHAHA
During this moment, insects were gathering under Tobi's feet...
Shino tried to cover Tobi with insects but it was of course futile...
Next, Sai drew a picture of a wolf with his drawing technique and attacked Tobi from the rear.
That was also useless.
Hinata used Byakugan to look at Tobi.
Hinata: At where I see...there is nothing unusual with his chakra movements...
Sakura's thoughts: Nothing works here...how did this fellow...
Tobi: So are ya done with yer evaluation?
Naruto: Damnit...Let me do it once more...
Kakashi: Hang on, Naruto. Attacking recklessly only wastes chakra.
Naruto: Then what shall we do...
Kakashi: Everyone stand back a bit.
Kakashi's eye became the Mangekyou Sharingan...
Naruto: !
Kakashi: This will be finished shortly.
Kakashi: Mangekyou Sharingan...!!

Scene change to Jiraiya and Pain...
Jiraiya escaping along the buildings...
He was chased after by the 6 bodies of Pain...
Jiraiya's thoughts: No matter how hard I try, I cannot win with 6 against 1...
Jiraiya: What shall I do in such a situation?
Frog Pa: Shall we form an ambush to defeat him....Shall we all retreat? Which is a better option...?
Jiraiya: I can't come here just to escape. The former option is...
Frog Ma: Idiot!!! What's the fella who's just lost his arm sayin'?! Flee for this while so that you recover!
Frog Pa: That's a reason here...
Jiraiya: ...Fine, let's do it then.
Jiraiya dashed around the buildings at top speed...
As soon as the Pains approached, Frog Pa used a large smokescreen...
Pain lost sight of Jiraiya...
Pain: Disperse.
The six Pains left in different directions...
Jiraiya: We've shaken off their lead well...
Frog Ma: Look for a hiding place quickly...
However, the fat Pain saw all these from a great distance.

Scene change to Kisame and Suigetsu...
Suigetsu drew out his sword and looked at Kisame who was on the electric post.
Then he jumped up and slashed.
Kisame used Samehada to parry the blow and Suigetsu was hit back.
Suigetsu landed behind on top of a building...
Karin and Juugo: !
Suigetsu looks like slime (i.e. how he looked when Karin threw him a punch XD).
Karin's thoughts: This man possesses incredible strength...! With one hand...he parried off Suigetsu who was holding the blade with two hands...moreover, he did not lose balance and fall off that unstable electric post...
Suigetsu: Ah....you're indeed strong...I can't win like this.
Suwolbong ??
Suigetsu's arm muscles swelled.

Scene change again to Konoha team...
Tobi: Uwaaaaa!! Tobi escapes from the dimension....
Kakashi aimed his attack at Tobi's torso...
Kakashi: This is the end.
Kakashi opened his eyes...
However, nothing had happened...
Kakashi: ...?
Kakashi focused his attack on Tobi's torso but it did not fly off to the other dimension.
At this juncture, Kakashi's eyes met Tobi's Sharingan.
Kakashi's thoughts: This fellow...!!
Kakashi halted the dimension. Ending,
Tobi: Arara? What's up?

Stirring up - Threat...! ...! The true power of the unfathomable Tobi...!!!

Spoiler 5:

381THE true secret! Front cover is Tobi

Yamato: !

Kiba: He slipped through?

Naruto: ch! Genjutsu?

Kakashi: no,its not

Tobi: Its not genjutsu
  My body is just really a little....different and special from the others...

Tobi's head up

Tobi: n? What's this?

Naruto's face looks at Tobi

Tobi: uwaaa! Suddenly, the team with the kyuubi's human sacriface just appeared before me!

Naruto: !

Itachi: Fu...is this a matter of death?
  
This place is decided on to be more appropriate
(roughly translated here)
  
To put an end to things

Sasuke: The place doesn't matter, stand Itachi

Itachi: That hate of yours too, this place fits
  
Do you know what kind of a place this is? Sasuke
  
From what you see on the map on the ground, how often do you visited?

Itachi stands

Itachi: at that time, it was said to be the Uchiha's household eye, the true secret
  
Everything starts from here and everything ends here

The writing of the charactor "fox" at the back two pages opposite each other, stands the two (roughly translated)

Kakshi and Yamato appears infront of Naruto

Tobi: what should I do this? Actually because of me alone, its intense? Deidara-san is also dead. It looks like there is someone strong.

Kakashi and Yamato looks

Leader likes to go against orders and do whatever he pleases, as i thought , looks like i have to do this.

Kakashi: Yamato, take care of Naruto

Sakura: Naruto.....

The leaf prepares for battle

Tobi: I don't know about the sannin, you can forget about him. He's an idiot

Kakashi: Impossible

Yamato: Jiraya-sama is...

Naruto: What are you saying? What happened to ero hermit!

Tobi: haha, even if we don't panic, soon he will die

Tobi: The people at the headquarters seem to have started. Until the people over there finishes, there's still time.
  
Let's play a little here.

At the village, Tsunade looks at the rain in the mid air

Flashback

Tsunade: You..! You didn't tell us where you went for a half year!

Jiraya: Erm, been there a bit

Tsunade: ....

Jiraya: oh? what's this? ca..you were worried about me?

a shone Tsunade's punch

Orochimaru: You guys, never change

end of flashback

Tsunade: It won't change, no matter how many years passes

To be continued!

orori: The rain's mid prayer. From now I will be the strongest!

4th battle!!

Spoiler 6:

Jiraiya forces the toad couple to return. Jiraiya's fate is unknown.
There's a scroll toad that is trying to get to Naruto, but rather decide that they are going to summon Naruto himself.

Kakashi sees through Tobi's jutsu.
He manipulates space and is "warping" this opponents

Sasuke is in 2nd Ju-in (cursed seal) mode, but is getting beat up by Itachi.
Sasuke's being told that those powers are not the strength which is necessary.

Spoiler 7:

Chapter: The Color of the Sky

Tobi tells Naruto that he is useless for missing on point-blank and how useless Konoha is because they can't beat him 8 on 1. Naruto attacks Tobi again but passes through him. Tobi looks up and says how the sky is clear blue. Suddenly a thunderbolt strikes between the Konoha ninjas, and everyone is blinded. Tobi disappears, and when Naruto opens his eyes he sees 7 Tobis surrounding him. Naruto gets angry and charges at one of the Tobis with Rasengan, but we see that it is actually Sakura who stares in shock.

Itachi and Sasuke say that there is nothing left to say. Sasuke instantly moves in front of Itachi and impales him with a Chidori. Itachi transforms into a swarm of crows that fly around Sasuke who sees images of the destroyed village and the dead Uchiha. He also sees his father and his corpse, but he doesn't care and Chidori spikes come out of his body to destroy all the crows. Sasuke says he's not his old self anymore, and Itachi confirms this.

Kisame stands before Suigetsu in a water prison and says that in the end he was just a brat. He strikes at Suigetsu, but he dissolves into water and appears behind Kisame, saying that in the end Kisame was just a fool. He hits Kisame, but it was a water clone, Suigetsu is surprised. Kisame appears and says that Suigetsu resembles his brother now and that he underestimated him, but he warns Suigetsu not to underestimate him either. Samehada unwraps completely.

Next: The battle of the elements!

Spoiler 8:

Chapter starts off with Konoha team and Tobi

Tobi: Thought you got me didn’t ya?
Naruto: ? What the hell?
Kakashi: get back everyone this is no ordinary enemy

Everyone stands back as Kakashi starts to lift up his headband

Tobi: ? Ahh so you are the one Deidara Sempai was talking about? The copy ninja?
Naruto: Stop with your bulls*** how did I miss?
Tobi: Ahh shut up I am not talking to you now!; So Kakashi?? How about I beat you right here right now with my one hit KO!
Kakashi: Stay back everyone I’ll handle this

Kakashi lifts his headband up to reveal his sharingan

Scene switches to Suigetsu and Kisame

Suigetsu: Sorry to make you fight me Kisame Sempai; but you know how us young mist kind have such an itch to start trouble
Kisame: Ahh I know it well; reminds me of me when I was younger, but listen kid you have a lot of catching up to do.
Suigetsu: Well----

Karin interrupts

Karin: You guys sound like idiots! You want to fight yet you guys are talking like your family; You guys are sick, let’s go Juugo we are going after sasuke

Kisame: Oh no you’re not

Suddenly Kisame clasps his hands together and water begins to accumulate around team Hebi;

Kisame: Sorry brats this ends here,

Suddenly the water turns into a giant vortex and heads at Team Hebi

Scene switches to Jiraiya;

Jiraiya: Damnit…This is bad

Pain: So this is how the great Jiraiya will end? Missing an arm and beaten by god; pathetic, however I commend you on lasting this long, however this is over

All six Pains join hands and start chanting
Pain: You will now see the ultimate power of Pain

Suddenly everything turns to blackness

Pain: “World Great Pestilence"

Jiraiya: ! s***! This is…..

Scene switches to Sasuke and Itachi

Itachi: My death? Foolish brother you know nothing

Suddenly crows start flying all around Sasuke while Itachi continues to sit in the throne

Sasuke: Im foolish, your use of the sharingan has diminished I can tell

Sasuke emits Chidori out of his body hitting all the crows, however they keep flying around

Itachi: Now you will know the truth; your true purpose, my true intensions

Suddenly Sasuke is back at the village the night the clan was slaughtered
However this time he sees Itachi lying face down breathing hard and a masked man standing over him….its Tobi!!!!

Sasuke: What is this? What are you doing?

Itachi with his Mangekyou activated

Itachi: It will all be become much clearer, but first show me what you have spent years trying to get

Sasuke smirks

Sasuke: Hmph You’ll regret that request, who is the foolish one now?

Sasuke closes his eyes,

Chapter ends here……..

Spoiler 9 and the last one 😀 :

pein are six ninja who jiraiya had previously met
as jiraiya works out who pein is, they all attack at once, episode ends.

Though I don't think that this one is true.. Now you've got plenty to discuss about.. 😀


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Information overload!!!


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Information overload!!!

I know.. 😛 Though there are some good things that happen in some.. 😃


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Too lazy to read them all/choose. Will wait for next chapter. It's tomorrow!


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