What is the big deal about Yaoi (gay) manga? I mean....

First of all I would like to start an argument, in which I state that gays (as a part of humanity and evolutionary chain) are disguisting and should not be tolerated morally due to how disguisting they are.
And the second part of the argument is how lesbian girls (as a part of humanity and evolutionary chain) are just cute and innocent.
I have stated 4 reasons for this.

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I am asking every participant to this argument to stand and take a point of view, NOT a male point of view, NEITHER a female point of view. A point of view of a spectator regardless of your gender or sexuality. (What this means is that you should have a look at this whole concept from a factual and moral perspective at the same time, and take your time to discuss your thoughts on this topic.)

Note: If you are easily offended homosexual, straight, bisexual or any other sexuality, please do NOT proceed to read from this point onwards.

Disclaimer: This discussion is merely a freedom of speech and a request of feedback from intelligent human beings who can discuss any topic without being offended.
I posted this before, but it got removed by a mod because I've accidentally posted it outside the area of 18+, so this time please do not remove my post as it is completely legal, I do not tend to offend any sexuality mentioned in this topic, consider all this a free thoughts discussion.

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Reason 1: Visual appearance

Guy-on-guy action is very sick and twisted. Firstly I shall state my reasons for why I believe that girl-on-girl action is innocent and why a guy-on-guy action is just purely sick and twisted. When 2 girls are kissing, it's the same as 2 guys kissing, this is innocent. Both ways. When a girl is rubbing another girl's breasts, or a guy kissing another man's chest, this is still - innocent. When a girl is pleasuring her partner with a strap-on, it is innocent, since strap-on is a piece of plastic nothing else, much like a tool, used in a right place at a right time. When a guy shoves his erect penis into another man's anus, and pulls it out after a hardcore sex scene with shit dripping off. I'm sorry but in this case, not only that anal sex is disguisting, for a man to do it with another man is in no way innocent.

Reason 2: Technicalities in depth

During a heterosexual sex act, a man is the pivot point. It depends on him how fast a girl will ejaculate, it depends on him when to ejaculate himself(in some cases in a girl's mouth or on her body). Overall this makes the man of what's known as "provider", who's counterpart is the "receiver", the woman. This way it is balanced out and thus is called "heterosexual" (hetero (greek. lang. element for -- Other; Different).
When a homosexual act takes place with either: 2 men or 2 women, this means they are the same sex, however, when 2 women do it there is no "provider" in the act, thus making it innocent pleasures achieved with hand movement or artificial tools. When 2 men do it, there are 2 natural "providers" exchanging their genetical components directly, either into eachother's mouth or anus. This makes it just sick to think about in the first place.

Reason 3: Morals & Beliefs

Females(as a being and a part of humans) are a symbol of beauty, physical fragility versus males, and moral dependance in some cases(is why a wife needs her husband to raise the kids, financial support etc.)
Males(as a being and a part of humans) are a symbol of physical capability(strength), moral support, and are able to provide moral and physical security for their chosen Females.

When 2 women are doing it, they are both the symbol of beauty, making it double, fragility (making it delicate and passionate), moral dependance(meaning they can understand eachother's desires better than anyone thus attempting to provide the security for eachother, which is by the way just cute).

When 2 men are doing it, the sweaty muscly bodies which are supposed to be providing the females, are corrupt and twisted, with no moral support required, both of these men require no physical or moral security in that sense (excluding abuse which rarely happens in civilised countries with all the gay pride parades available for their comfort) 2 gay men are not as scared to go out in public as much as 2 lesbians are, who fear to be abused by people. Fact.

Reason 4: Creating intentional & innocent evolutionary disadvantages

Men, who were originally born as providers for extending the future generations, thus providing an extension to our evolutionary chain, are technically breaking the code of evolution providing their genes to a non-fertile channel, while making love to eachother.
There is a reason why a man should provide it's genetical contents to a females ovaries for a baby to be able to form through a connection of both of their genes.
But when two men are making love, the sharing of the genes is intentional. Both ways. (And I do not mean intentional in a way where they think about it, it is physically intentional if you will).

Women, who were originally born as receivers (genetically), for extending the future generations, thus(also) providing an extension to our evolutionary chain, are NOT breaking the code of evolution. Now you have to pay attention to this part very carefully because it gets tricky.
By saying that lesbians do Not break the code of evolution I'm not saying that gays should be neglected and lesbians promoted. No. Because when two lesbians are making love, they also, much like the gays have no chance of having a baby with no provider. HOWEVER, when lesbians are making love, they do not provide any genetical information to a non-fertile channel. Since you can't insert a vagina inside a vagina(obviously). THIS is what makes lesbian love innocent. and (in my opinion) cute.

"The end bit":
This thread took me above an hour to make and, really, moderators? please do have some sense of maturity to let people discuss this thread and not just remove it because I have wondered this for a long time and I do need some feedback about how people think, on top of this I tried as hard as I could to make this as informative as possible.

PEOPLE!:
I adress all of you who have read this thread, Please do not be offended, this is just my mere thoughts based on factual information, I do not intend to make enemies on the forum, I am simply a very curious and philosophical person. Be free to post anything that's on your mind, and please, to prevent the spam on this thread, only reply if you have some common sense in you, remember THINK! don't let the emotions overtake you, because that way you will just make yourselves look stupid. 😉
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First off:
for being a "Grammar Nazi", you have quite a few mistakes within your posts. Properly spell "disgusting" (you misspelled it last time as well) and double check your spacebar usage (you failed a few times) and I believe you meant to use "intend" not "tend".
Also, you stated "fact" in the third reason, where are your sources?

As for the topic:
I disagree with your opinions, which I am entitled to do.
As long as two people, no matter their gender, engage in consensual sex, it is of no one's business but their own.
I also don't believe any part of sex, be it foreplay or the act, can be considered "innocent".

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First off:
for being a "Grammar Nazi", you have quite a few mistakes within your posts. Properly spell "disgusting" (you misspelled it last time as well) and double check your spacebar usage (you failed a few times) and I believe you meant to use "intend" not "tend".
Also, you stated "fact" in the third reason, where are your sources?

As for the topic:
I disagree with your opinions, which I am entitled to do.
As long as two people, no matter their gender, engage in consensual sex, it is of no one's business but their own.
I also don't believe any part of sex, be it foreplay or the act, can be considered "innocent".

I think your missing the basic point of this argument. Saying any sexual act cannot be considerd as "innocent" voids the argument, we are just trying to look at it from a perspective, phillisofically.

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First off:
for being a "Grammar Nazi", you have quite a few mistakes within your posts. Properly spell "disgusting" (you misspelled it last time as well) and double check your spacebar usage (you failed a few times) and I believe you meant to use "intend" not "tend".
Also, you stated "fact" in the third reason, where are your sources?

Not to mention misspelling Address.
I'm pretty sure you might need to remove the word grammar from your signature.
Opinions are all well and good, but don't claim them as factual.

Really? Philosophy has nothing to do with this, and I think anyone that has any respect for philosophy would feel rather insulted by your usage of the word "philosophical".

And being ontopic, just by saying "gays?sick, lesbians=cute" you are being biased and so expecting unbiased answers is ridiculous.

I doubt the thread will be long, your post is, ridiculously long.

I don't know if I could consider myself intelligent, but I certainly don't consider this topic to be so.

And, considering lesbians cute is ridiculous, if anything shouldn't it be hot? Oh wait, you are trying to be unbiased, but I'm sorry, since you used sick for gays.

If it makes you feel better, I was drinking and I just couldn't help myself at commenting at your post 🤣

And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted.

This week's favorites:

• Golden Kamui

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arent gay males and females like... exactly the same other than their gender?... i dont really understand the point in this argument if it isnt whether or not homosexuality is OK.

and uhh... homosexuals are sort of necessary, homosexuals tend to not make babies, heterosexuals tend to make too many babies / die after they make their baby, then the homosexuals adopt the leftover babies...

i most likely misunderstood something, sorry.

response to tsuto: id have to agree. i didnt understand his logic, but when i dont understand something i just try to assume im not intelligent enough to decipher what he / she said.

Well, your post, is really asking for "tl;dr"
As such I didn't read most of it, despite your warning, which is quite ridiculous when you've mentioned freedom of speech.

But from what I have read, I've deduced that you're not very good at following your own advice.

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Both are wrong and unnatural... Evolution/God didn't make Genders just for show...

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Really? Philosophy has nothing to do with this, and I think anyone that has any respect for philosophy would feel rather insulted by your usage of the word "philosophical".

And being ontopic, just by saying "gays?sick, lesbians=cute" you are being biased and so expecting unbiased answers is ridiculous.

I doubt the thread will be long, your post is, ridiculously long.

I don't know if I could consider myself intelligent, but I certainly don't consider this topic to be so.

And, considering lesbians cute is ridiculous, if anything shouldn't it be hot? Oh wait, you are trying to be unbiased, but I'm sorry, since you used sick for gays.

If it makes you feel better, I was drinking and I just couldn't help myself at commenting at your post 🤣

And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted.

Hmmm...Now I don't agree with this guy to the fullest extent because of the biast way in which this post has come across.
Since i have said that don't you agree with me you also seem emotionally digrased by this point since you claimed it none philosophical and you haven't read the post at all? 🤣
I see this as an emotinal perspective from both parties. The major point here is that both parties of sex are different and why it is more "disguting" for male genders to pass gentical flued through sexual interaction. The way it is looked at is quite an opinionated thread but as an opinion it is with reason.

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Really? Philosophy has nothing to do with this, and I think anyone that has any respect for philosophy would feel rather insulted by your usage of the word "philosophical".

And being ontopic, just by saying "gays?sick, lesbians=cute" you are being biased and so expecting unbiased answers is ridiculous.

I doubt the thread will be long, your post is, ridiculously long.

I don't know if I could consider myself intelligent, but I certainly don't consider this topic to be so.

And, considering lesbians cute is ridiculous, if anything shouldn't it be hot? Oh wait, you are trying to be unbiased, but I'm sorry, since you used sick for gays.

If it makes you feel better, I was drinking and I just couldn't help myself at commenting at your post 🤣

And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted.

Hmmm...Now I don't agree with this guy to the fullest extent because of the biast way in which this post has come across.
Since i have said that don't you agree with me you are also emotionally digrased by this point since you claimed it none philosophical and you haven't read the post at all? 🤣
I see this as an emotinal perspective from both parties. The major point here is that both parties of sex are different and why it is more "disguting" for male genders to pass gentical flued through sexual interaction. The way it is looked at is quite an opinionated thread but as an opinion it is with reason.

Oh well, read my post again.

And it's an opinion with reason? Really? It's ridiculous. 🤣

This week's favorites:

• Golden Kamui

ççççççç[Ô.Ô] tsutopodus© will eat your manga and steal your cats!

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And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted.

Hmmm...Now I don't agree with this guy to the fullest extent because of the biast way in which this post has come across.
Since i have said that don't you agree with me you are also emotionally digrased by this point since you claimed it none philosophical and you haven't read the post at all? 🤣

Uh, what? 😕

[Edit: Tsuto, why did you post before me? Now it looks like I copied your post. Hmpft.]

As for the topic/first post: uuuuhhh... I learned from Bambi (Thumper's mom?) that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. So "no comment".

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Really? Philosophy has nothing to do with this, and I think anyone that has any respect for philosophy would feel rather insulted by your usage of the word "philosophical".

And being ontopic, just by saying "gays?sick, lesbians=cute" you are being biased and so expecting unbiased answers is ridiculous.

I doubt the thread will be long, your post is, ridiculously long.

I don't know if I could consider myself intelligent, but I certainly don't consider this topic to be so.

And, considering lesbians cute is ridiculous, if anything shouldn't it be hot? Oh wait, you are trying to be unbiased, but I'm sorry, since you used sick for gays.

If it makes you feel better, I was drinking and I just couldn't help myself at commenting at your post 🤣

[b]And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted[/b].

Hmmm...Now I don't agree with this guy to the fullest extent because of the biast way in which this post has come across.
Since i have said that don't you agree with me you are also emotionally digrased by this point since you claimed it none philosophical and you haven't read the post at all? 🤣
I see this as an emotinal perspective from both parties. The major point here is that both parties of sex are different and why it is more "disguting" for male genders to pass gentical flued through sexual interaction. The way it is looked at is quite an opinionated thread but as an opinion it is with reason.

Oh well, read my post again.

And it's an opinion with reason? Really? It's ridiculous. 🤣

I ment that as in you didn't understand the post.

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[quote=tsuto]Really? Philosophy has nothing to do with this, and I think anyone that has any respect for philosophy would feel rather insulted by your usage of the word "philosophical".

And being ontopic, just by saying "gays?sick, lesbians=cute" you are being biased and so expecting unbiased answers is ridiculous.

I doubt the thread will be long, your post is, ridiculously long.

I don't know if I could consider myself intelligent, but I certainly don't consider this topic to be so.

And, considering lesbians cute is ridiculous, if anything shouldn't it be hot? Oh wait, you are trying to be unbiased, but I'm sorry, since you used sick for gays.

If it makes you feel better, I was drinking and I just couldn't help myself at commenting at your post 🤣

[b]And, lastly, I kinda regret reading all of the stuff you posted[/b].

Hmmm...Now I don't agree with this guy to the fullest extent because of the biast way in which this post has come across.
Since i have said that don't you agree with me you are also emotionally digrased by this point since you claimed it none philosophical and you haven't read the post at all? 🤣
I see this as an emotinal perspective from both parties. The major point here is that both parties of sex are different and why it is more "disguting" for male genders to pass gentical flued through sexual interaction. The way it is looked at is quite an opinionated thread but as an opinion it is with reason.

Oh well, read my post again.

And it's an opinion with reason? Really? It's ridiculous. 🤣

I ment that as in you didn't understand the post.[/quote]

So you did? 🤣

Are you mental or something to say I didn't understand it? 🤣

This week's favorites:

• Golden Kamui

ççççççç[Ô.Ô] tsutopodus© will eat your manga and steal your cats!

Well if you look at his post it constantly mentions things about evolution> isn't that phillosofical?

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