Illegal Downloading
18 years ago
Posts: 2596
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Maybe... Because if you download anime 'from japan' with 'sub' it does count as illegal there but might not be illegal in USA or anywhere else.. I'm not so sure lol, but some licensed things just a bit too expensive T_T i can't help myself but being illegal XD
Downloading anime is illegal if it is licensed in you country.
beside that point. But even though.... i don't profit anything from it, i don't sell, AND i don't burn.... well i never burn anime.. ect ect so maybe.
18 years ago
Posts: 54
Illegal Downloading happens no matter which country ur in, and acutally the US is the only country who acutally cares about that stuff. I heard in the news a few times of people getting caught and being fined thousands of dollars because they dl'ed music or watever, but I think thats just plain stupid.
And its funny on how " liscensed " anime is illegal too, its not acutally their's but Japans, all they did was voice the anime and they claim it as theirs. That shouldn't be, and I think it should be legal or they should not care much about it.
As my opinion on " Illegal downloading " it helps / promotes watever the topic is, music, movies or anime it helps in all. Nothing is illegal, if its on the net its up for grabs, u will never stop the uploading or downloading, and im talking about U.S stopping this, they cant touch the individuals in other countries.
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18 years ago
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well, i think the US actually 'ask' the producer who made the specific anime to licensed it in USA. They might even pay for it, i don't know, don't care. My point is I agree that they shouldn't be claiming it's theirs, but if it's a deal between Japan and USA to licensed this specific anime to USA, then it is their deal..
Plus, if it's licensed in USA, downloading it in other countries is fine i guess... Since it is not from USA plus, we're not download their dubbed version 🙄
18 years ago
Posts: 1850
If an anime/manga/whatever has been licensed in the US, that means that the US company has paid (probably quite large) fees to the Japanese/Korean/whatever company that originally published it, in order to have the legal right to sell it in the US. The US company probably also pays a certain percentage of their profits from that title to the original publisher, who in turn gives a certain percentage to the original author(s).
As far as music being downloaded...
I think that if it's something you have easy legal access to, then downloading it is wrong. It's not just "the record company" making money off this stuff, the musicians need to earn an income too. While it's easy to point at some obscenely wealthy rock stars (or whoever, you know what I mean) and say "they don't need my money!" there are a lot of musicians who aren't that well off, and making music is their JOB. People downloading instead of buying doesn't just affect the big-name, established stars, it hits the "little guys" too. (Would you like to work full-time-plus and then not get paid for it? I thought not...)
If it's something that's hard and/or ridiculously expensive to get in your country, then I don't really have a problem with downloading it. If I could get J-pop for the $15-$20 per cd that mainstream US music costs, I'd buy it. Unfortunately it's more like $40 per cd, and that's just a bit out of my range.
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18 years ago
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Well.......If the mangaka really wanted people to read their manga, and not just for money, then they won't mind.
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18 years ago
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Well.......If the mangaka really wanted people to read their manga, and not just for money, then they won't mind.
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While I'm sure the mangaka are happy that people are reading their manga, I'm also sure that they'd like to be paid for their hard work. 🙄
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18 years ago
Posts: 2596
shouldn't the topic about 'manga' go to manga scanlation is bad ect?
but if every manga have to pay mangaka would lose some popularity of some mangas... because some of us don't pay at all -__- which is bad..
18 years ago
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Illegal downloading...it sure as hell isn't alright, I mean it is illegal, but it's not like that's gonna stop me 😀 XD
I gotta do what I can to get what I want 😃
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18 years ago
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There's no way "illegal downloading" is a good thing for a mangaka
& i'm a pirate right now.
Is there anyway to really justify it ?
I dont think so (cuz it's totally BS if there's any)
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18 years ago
Posts: 2
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There's no way "illegal downloading" is a good thing for a mangaka
& i'm a pirate right now.
Is there anyway to really justify it ?
I dont think so (cuz it's totally BS if there's any)
In the short run, maybe there is no justification, but in the long run, it may well benefit the mangaka.
People like me, (who download manga to stay ahead of the storyline or when they're broke, but who really like having the hard copy books once they're out) benefit the mangaka. If I never tried out a manga by downloading a few chapters, I would probably never buy the books later. (Too much time in bookstores tends to be detrimental to my food money, so I only go when I know exactly what I want. 😁 )
Consider if you will, the amount it costs to finish up a series of manga...
Bleach, for example is up to Vol 31. That's $10 a book, so $310 so far on that series alone.
And who really buys only one series. I know I have somewhere over $2000 in manga that I've bought and many more that I'm saving up for. Downloaders don't benefit the mangaka? My pasty white backside, they don't! 😀
18 years ago
Posts: 85
devyndryn: "If I never tried out a manga by downloading a few chapters, I would probably never buy the books later."
Do you really go to the bookstore & buy from vol1-chap1 ALL the manga you like later AFTER you downloaded from IRC/torrent/watever...& read them ?
Do you think lots of pp would do like that ?
One chapter you download without paying the mangaka is already a lost to him/her
devyndryn: "Consider if you will, the amount it costs to finish up a series of manga...
Bleach, for example is up to Vol 31. That's $10 a book, so $310 so far on that series alone."
There's always an option, if you dont have enough $, dont buy it
As i said, it's totally BS (in readers' favor of course) if we try any reason to justify "illegal download". And why I have to find a reason to justify it since there's none. Does finding a reason to justify my illegal dl make i feel less guilty ? lol no
My point is we just need to accept it's illegal & move on (continuing dl illegal or stop doing it & start waiting & buying books). That's it
Forgive me if there's any grammar error. My english's sux
"As long as we're seeing the same kind of musical vision, yeah, sure. But sometimes when things get hard, you balance out the pros and cons and say, am I being a wimp if I stay or am I being a wimp if I leave?" - D'arcy Wretzky
18 years ago
Posts: 2
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Do you really go to the bookstore & buy from vol1-chap1 ALL the manga you like later AFTER you downloaded from IRC/torrent/watever...& read them ?
Actually, yes I do. I like the feel of reading books. They're a whole lot more portable than downloaded stuff (laptops just won't fit well in a cargo pocket 🤣 ) and a whole lot cheaper than the ink and paper it would cost to print off anything from my computer.
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Do you think lots of pp would do like that ?
Mebbie not. Some do.
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There's always an option, if you dont have enough $, dont buy it
But I love my crack, err... um... books.
Darn Bibliophilia.
18 years ago
Posts: 2
i think if you download mangas, animes, etc. for now profit it isn't illegal when a goup subbed and translated it from .... to .... and did not use the original subbs and translations of the owning company. Ans also some of the mangas are never puplished in some countries, like germany, because mangas aren't so beloved there.
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18 years ago
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devyndryn: "If I never tried out a manga by downloading a few chapters, I would probably never buy the books later."
Do you really go to the bookstore & buy from vol1-chap1 ALL the manga you like later AFTER you downloaded from IRC/torrent/watever...& read them ?
Do you think lots of pp would do like that ?
One chapter you download without paying the mangaka is already a lost to him/her
devyndryn: "Consider if you will, the amount it costs to finish up a series of manga...
Bleach, for example is up to Vol 31. That's $10 a book, so $310 so far on that series alone."There's always an option, if you dont have enough $, dont buy it
As i said, it's totally BS (in readers' favor of course) if we try any reason to justify "illegal download". And why I have to find a reason to justify it since there's none. Does finding a reason to justify my illegal dl make i feel less guilty ? lol no
My point is we just need to accept it's illegal & move on (continuing dl illegal or stop doing it & start waiting & buying books). That's it
Forgive me if there's any grammar error. My english's sux
i think your right too, but where i live (Germany) a lot of mangas aren't published, so i need to get good mangas somewhere. ao no fui is my favourite, but i never had been able to read it, if i had done it "legall"
18 years ago
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This is simple,
If you live in a country that sells manga in store (has the manga you want to read) and you can afford buying then you buy it. If not licensed but scanlated then you download it.
If you live in a country that doesn't have manga in stores (the manga you want) and can't afford shipping [which is a total rip off!!] they you download.
ahhh this says it all 😃
