Like in America, some of 'em are, some of 'em arent. Thats my guess, anyway.
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In my 7 months in Tokyo/Yokohama I have yet to meet with any racism. One of my friends got called a racial slur on her trip to Kyoto, but thats the only one I've heard of from the 24 people we have here. It may be because we're always out with our Japanese friends, I guess I'll find out when my friend and I travel Japan by ourselves this summer. I hear it is a bit more prevalent in the countryside where they don't see many foreigners but in the major cities I've been meet with nothing but respectful polite attitudes.
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the only time i felt they were racist were on a a game server of a game called Xops(sucked ).
Its counterstrike but with super ugly graphics.
They all used cheats to mercilessly to gang up and frag me to discourage me into leaving
When it didnt work then kicked me from the server saying- jap only server.
Thats the only time i recall of them being racist. But it would be unfair just to consider an entire race of ppl to be racist jsut becoz a bunch of jap gamers couldnt tolerate someone else on their game.
Its counterstrike but with super ugly graphics.
They all used cheats to mercilessly to gang up and frag me to discourage me into leaving
When it didnt work then kicked me from the server saying- jap only server.
Thats the only time i recall of them being racist. But it would be unfair just to consider an entire race of ppl to be racist jsut becoz a bunch of jap gamers couldnt tolerate someone else on their game.
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I've never been to Japan but I have Japanese friends here and they're really nice...
I say racism is the same anywhere you go...It just depends on the people you meet
I say racism is the same anywhere you go...It just depends on the people you meet
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I've never been in Japan so I can't really say, but yesterday I read this page that someone posted in another tread:
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
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Quote from kee-chan
I've never been in Japan so I can't really say, but yesterday I read this page that someone posted in another tread:
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
The article is pretty long, and I'm lazy.
Some are more true than others, I guess. It's always different depending which article you're reading and whatnot. Everyone has different experiences in Japan, as you can see from all the previous posts. ^^________________
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Quote from kee-chan
I've never been in Japan so I can't really say, but yesterday I read this page that someone posted in another tread:
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
Woow, I never knew they were so filled with prejudice to us, makes me not wanna go there
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If you are going to base your whole opinion of a country solely on what on what a sole person say without indagating any further, as if anything a person write on the internet is the absolute truth is, at least, really unwise.
In my opinion, you cannot go saying such serious accusations like "in Japanese comicbooks, foreigners are portrayed to look as lesser and retarded beings" without some kind of proof to back you up. And since your reading lists are not public, I'm obligated to ask you directly:
Could you please, tell me exactly which mangas are you talking about? I've never read something even remotely similar of what you are writing about in any kind of Japanese media, so I'm very curious to know which series affected you so much to the degree of making you state such "negative" allegations.
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If you are going to base your whole opinion of a country solely on what on what a sole person say without indagating any further, as if anything a person write on the internet is the absolute truth is, at least, really unwise.
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from mangas and the like, you get the impression that the general opinion about foreigners is that they are lesser beings. (and a tad retarded) but as we all know, it isn't really smart to get your facts from comicbooks...
In my opinion, you cannot go saying such serious accusations like "in Japanese comicbooks, foreigners are portrayed to look as lesser and retarded beings" without some kind of proof to back you up. And since your reading lists are not public, I'm obligated to ask you directly:
Could you please, tell me exactly which mangas are you talking about? I've never read something even remotely similar of what you are writing about in any kind of Japanese media, so I'm very curious to know which series affected you so much to the degree of making you state such "negative" allegations.
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It's more or less the same situation around the world, there are some that dislike foreigners in every location. Japan certainly will have its share given its population and history with foreigners.
As a nation, Japan's probably not, but individuals will always exist with those ideal.
Also, by suggesting that the entire Japan in general harbours racist sentiments based on a few manga, you are closer to being the racist one than they are.
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As a nation, Japan's probably not, but individuals will always exist with those ideal.
Also, by suggesting that the entire Japan in general harbours racist sentiments based on a few manga, you are closer to being the racist one than they are.
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Honestly, I have no idea what to think.
On one hand, so many people have told me that they've been to Japan and have been treated with respect/no differently than anyone else.
On the other, I've also read Michael Crichton's novel the Rising Sun, which was based on quite a bit of research on the culture of Japan, and one of the major points of that book is how ethnocentric Japan really is.
So, I really just don't know what to believe anymore...
On one hand, so many people have told me that they've been to Japan and have been treated with respect/no differently than anyone else.
On the other, I've also read Michael Crichton's novel the Rising Sun, which was based on quite a bit of research on the culture of Japan, and one of the major points of that book is how ethnocentric Japan really is.
So, I really just don't know what to believe anymore...
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In japan there is a lot of racism.
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Quote from Chibidoro-sama
Quote from kee-chan
I've never been in Japan so I can't really say, but yesterday I read this page that someone posted in another tread:
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
http://www.jref.com/culture/misconceptions_prejudices.shtml
Can anyone explain if it's really like this?
Woow, I never knew they were so filled with prejudice to us, makes me not wanna go there
i agree with you, i had the same feeling when i finished reading it.
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Eh, I'd call their problem prejudice, not racism. They don't mean to, they are just epic with ignorance.
Take this segment from a blog called GaijinSmash.net. They are editorials about Az, a six-foot-tall-plus black man in Japan:
It is harmless I tells ya.
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Take this segment from a blog called GaijinSmash.net. They are editorials about Az, a six-foot-tall-plus black man in Japan:
Quote from Az
...We lined up as the next train rolled in, and I noticed that the train car seemed awfully empty. My girlfriend rejoiced - we would be able to sit down! I however knew there was something fishy - an empty train car on the last train out of Kyoto on a Saturday night? Something wasn't right. The doors opened, my girlfriend rushed in, and her immediate gag reaction and recoil in horror confirmed my suspicions - someone had puked all over one of the train benches and the floor in this train car.
It was pretty nasty - we moved further down the train car. I wanted to change train cars entirely, but as there were more people packed in this end (no doubt running from the puke) it became harder to move about. We finally stopped maybe half a train car away from the scene of the crime.
Maybe a few minutes out of the station, I noticed something interesting/disturbing...
Me: Now, how does this work? We're on a train car full of puke...and people are STILL staring at us!
Her: Well, maybe they just don't want to look at the puke.
Him: So they choose to look at us instead? That's comforting.
In particular, there were two young women in front of us that just kept GLARING at me and my gf. We were trying to figure out if it was a vicious "leave our women alone!" glare, or one of intense burning jealousy.
Although, it was insanely interesting to watch people at the next station get on the train and head for the empty bench only to be replused as they found it covered in vomit. One dude though, assessed the situation and deciding that since the vomit was primarily located on the center of the bench, he could safely sit down on the corner of the bench, which he did. It was at this time that I noticed that although the bench with the vomit on it was fairly empty (save the one guy sitting down on the corner), the bench across from the vomit was full to capacity with six adults sitting on it. ...Keep in mind that the vomit isn't just on the bench, but on the floor as well. Meaning no one sitting on that bench across could stretch out their legs without ruining their shoes.
A few minutes later, my friend's spirits hit an incredible low. We ask him why, and he says one of the most prolific things I've heard to date.
Him: This really goes to show you our (Gaijin) place in Japanese society, doesn't it? Japanese people will sit across from nasty vomit, but no one will dare to sit next to me.
It's sad/hilarious because it's true.
Link to blog entryIt was pretty nasty - we moved further down the train car. I wanted to change train cars entirely, but as there were more people packed in this end (no doubt running from the puke) it became harder to move about. We finally stopped maybe half a train car away from the scene of the crime.
Maybe a few minutes out of the station, I noticed something interesting/disturbing...
Me: Now, how does this work? We're on a train car full of puke...and people are STILL staring at us!
Her: Well, maybe they just don't want to look at the puke.
Him: So they choose to look at us instead? That's comforting.
In particular, there were two young women in front of us that just kept GLARING at me and my gf. We were trying to figure out if it was a vicious "leave our women alone!" glare, or one of intense burning jealousy.
Although, it was insanely interesting to watch people at the next station get on the train and head for the empty bench only to be replused as they found it covered in vomit. One dude though, assessed the situation and deciding that since the vomit was primarily located on the center of the bench, he could safely sit down on the corner of the bench, which he did. It was at this time that I noticed that although the bench with the vomit on it was fairly empty (save the one guy sitting down on the corner), the bench across from the vomit was full to capacity with six adults sitting on it. ...Keep in mind that the vomit isn't just on the bench, but on the floor as well. Meaning no one sitting on that bench across could stretch out their legs without ruining their shoes.
A few minutes later, my friend's spirits hit an incredible low. We ask him why, and he says one of the most prolific things I've heard to date.
Him: This really goes to show you our (Gaijin) place in Japanese society, doesn't it? Japanese people will sit across from nasty vomit, but no one will dare to sit next to me.
It's sad/hilarious because it's true.
It is harmless I tells ya.
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Well, if you choose not to go to Japan because of a single article, fine. It's not our loss. Will you refuse to buy a sequel to your favorite game because you've read one bad review?
So I just started reading it, and if anything, I actually find that article harshly racist against the Japanese. It was written in a very biased, condescending, and judgmental tone. If I'm gonna believe something from the internet, I know it definitely wouldn't be this.
There were a lot of sweeping statements:
ex:
Japanese children are explicitly taught that all "gaijin" speak English,
The Japanese police is infamous for constantly suspecting any foreign-looking person to be a criminal.
Where did he get those ideas? He seems to get his arguments from thin air.
It's a totally baseless article masquerading itself as factual. He is very condescending in the way that he thinks he knows exactly what is going through the mind of all Japanese people. See, he even pretends to know the inner workings of the Japanese media!
"The Japanese media never fail to mention that a crime was committed by a "gaikokujin" ("foreigner"), often omitting to mention their nationality so as to give a negative image to all foreigners."
Really? That's the reason?
I can tear down that article sentence per sentence, but anyway, you get the point.
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So I just started reading it, and if anything, I actually find that article harshly racist against the Japanese. It was written in a very biased, condescending, and judgmental tone. If I'm gonna believe something from the internet, I know it definitely wouldn't be this.
There were a lot of sweeping statements:
ex:
Japanese children are explicitly taught that all "gaijin" speak English,
The Japanese police is infamous for constantly suspecting any foreign-looking person to be a criminal.
Where did he get those ideas? He seems to get his arguments from thin air.
It's a totally baseless article masquerading itself as factual. He is very condescending in the way that he thinks he knows exactly what is going through the mind of all Japanese people. See, he even pretends to know the inner workings of the Japanese media!
"The Japanese media never fail to mention that a crime was committed by a "gaikokujin" ("foreigner"), often omitting to mention their nationality so as to give a negative image to all foreigners."
Really? That's the reason?
I can tear down that article sentence per sentence, but anyway, you get the point.
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From what i`ve been told by friends who have been
there in the past, japanese are extremely polite, but
they won`t easily accept foreigners (i believe
that`s true for every country anyway). By that i mean,
if you try to apply for a job for example, they will prefer
to hire a japanese person instead in most cases, or if
you try to approach a girl, she will act very suspicious
(not sure if i chose the right word here) towards you and
kind of scared.
Well, that`s some of what i`ve been told anyway, but i still
wanna go
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there in the past, japanese are extremely polite, but
they won`t easily accept foreigners (i believe
that`s true for every country anyway). By that i mean,
if you try to apply for a job for example, they will prefer
to hire a japanese person instead in most cases, or if
you try to approach a girl, she will act very suspicious
(not sure if i chose the right word here) towards you and
kind of scared.
Well, that`s some of what i`ve been told anyway, but i still
wanna go
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