I'm looking for yaoi or shonen-ai with ANGST. LOTS OF IT. To clarify, I mean the real kind of angst. Things that cause real angst include: drug abuse, having no money, being homeless, being alienated from society (because of sexual orientation), being disowned by parents, bullying (school and otherwise), character lives in a crappy apartment, self-loathing, mental illness or personality disorder (or just a cast of the crazies), suicidal tendencies, and similar.

Also, it would be wonderful if seme/uke stereotypes are downplayed liek woah (because girls with penises don't do it for me. Unless they actually are girls with penises.).

Things that do not constitute real angst are: oh noes! cheater!, he was just playing with me!, dubious consent, falling in love with one's own rapist.

Um. Sorry for being so picky. And thanks in advance for any good recommendations.

I love stories with angst. Hopefully my memory won't fail on me as I try to name some.
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Excellent suggestions, but I've already read these. : (

I love stories with angst. Hopefully my memory won't fail on me as I try to name some.
1999 Shanghai
Aijin wa Korosareru
Boku wa Kimi no Tori ni Naritai
Cut
Zetsuai

Have you tried:
Shiiku Gakari Rika--Rika the Breeder--very dark
Yatteraneeze!--even deals with AIDs, bullying, rejection of homosexuality,
Be Thirsty of Love Very, Very angsty, but I think it was licensed
Kimi no Ondo
Yume no Kodomo
Love Prism
Hana to Ryuu
Netsujou Innocence
Yuigon
Junjou Karen
Mukizu Ja Irarenee
Agnus Dei - Lamb of God
LSD--I Remember it being very angsty, but the last chap was never scanlated (sob, I can't even find the raws)
A Bitter Fruit
Kreuz
Hinata - Sunny Day from Hohoemi No Nichijou and its sequel Midnight Sun in A Bird in a Dream.
Like as the Time Will Come When it Will Rain
XY
Just about anything by MIYAMOTO Kano.
Little Butterfly and G-Senjou no Neko (both licensed) deal with mental illness.
The Gospel

That's all I can think of for now! Maybe you can tell us some of your favorites so we can make suggestions accordingly?

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I don't know if this qualifies as just gay, or shota, but 'Fire Candy' by Yonekura Kengo... I know some of the series has been translated by SnoopyCool, but I think it was dropped.

Two more are Wild Adapter and Vassalord. IMO they both were gay, even though WA was more implied than anything.

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Two more are Wild Adapter and Vassalord. IMO they both were gay, even though WA was more implied than anything.

Oh gosh, yes, I gotta second Wild Adapter<333

It is probably the slashiest manga I've ever read 😃

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Two more are Wild Adapter and Vassalord. IMO they both were gay, even though WA was more implied than anything.

Oh gosh, yes, I gotta second Wild Adapter<333

It is probably the slashiest manga I've ever read 😃

Yes, I love Wild Adapter. I guess I really didn't think of it as angsty, but I guess it really does fall into the requirements category.

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bumping for more, I think we need new suggestions!

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Didn't Boys Next Door (Shounen Zanzou ) seem angsty?

I second Boy's Next Door. The first one that popped into my head was Yatteraneeze! which deals with a lot of real world problems. Some of it is a bit over the top at times, but overall it was enjoyable.

The second was Watashitachi no Shiawase na Jikan, which isn't BL but it is well worth the read if you want angst. I was practically sobbing at the end, it was so sweet but so sad, and the problems were also believable (aka, not the usual manga crap). The non-BL aspect isn't overwhelming if you dislike shoujo, because it is by Yumeka Sumomo and she's pretty good with her pairings.

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Endless World

I adored Endless World, it was beautifully done in my opinion.

bannin
Negai Kanae Tamae
Double Mints
Endless World
Sakura-Gari
Tenshi no Uta (NISHIDA Higashi)
Haito Diamond
Ludwig II

if there is an option between "to do" and "not to do", I will always choose the latter.

"what kind of crazy, twisted conclusion is that...?" - banana bread no puding

I think nobody has suggested INARIYA Fusanosuke's works yet, and I loved endless world.

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