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Why do Nations go to war?

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Because they cannot resolve anything in peacfull manners.


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Pretty much all of the options in the poll. Sometimes because of this, sometimes because of that, but lately it seems to be all about power and money.


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Because people by nature value themselves above others, which creates an inherent dissonance? There's never really one reason for a war in the first place, but it typically occurs as a result of our own greed and selfishness coupled with thinly veiled justifications. There are virtually no truly sane people who enjoy real war, but people rarely feel remorse for things that place them into superior situations, be it on a cultural (religious) or monetary basis...

So, as tsuto said, it's really a combination of everything.


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As animals we are we solve problems with "force"


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It's really a combination of reasons that start a war.
Rarely does it occur that a war gets
set in motion of one reason only.

For example take WWII, it has obviously been spurred by
Hitler's hate for the Jews, but not only that. He thought
that the only ones worthy of ruling/living in Europe is the Aryan race.

Disregard that the term "Aryan" originally referred to Persian tribes.

Not only did he hated Jews, but also communists,
gipsies, mentally disabled people, and so on.

I'm pretty sure that Germany was at an economical
turmoil at the moment too, and he used that to manipulate
the people to think that the Jews were the cause of all that.
He probably got richer too, from all the money he took from them.

WWII did not start because of the Jews.

Aryans were nomads that conquered Persia and later settled in the Indus Valley, not simply 'Persian Tribes'.

The world itself means 'Noble' or 'Superior'.


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Nations go to war because the governing body thinks war is in its own best interests. War is alternately fueled by and manipulates: public opinion, the economy, ethnic/racial/religious/political tensions, and the governing body itself.


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WWII did not start because of the Jews.

Didn't I say that it was a combination of reasons.
Surely, you're not saying that antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

And yes, it's not just 'Persian Tribes', but due to lay-out reasons(OCD) I chose not to expand on that subject and just leave it at that. It's not like it was completely wrong anyways.


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Hitler needed someone weaker to pick on to.
The jews had no land. Had nowhere to escape. And he had "jew issues"
So he went for the jews.~


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WWII did not start because of the Jews.

Didn't I say that it was a combination of reasons.
Surely, you're not saying that antisemitism has nothing to do with it.

Yes, yes I am.

The antisemitism was an reaction to the economic and social conditions in Wiemar Germany. WWII would have still happened had Hitler not hated the Jews.

On topic:
War happens as the result of conflict and an inability to resolve said conflict with compromise. Regardless of the source of the conflict.


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greed and power
u cant have war without both sides participating


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On topic:
War happens as the result of conflict and an inability to resolve said conflict with compromise. Regardless of the source of the conflict.

"Inability to resolve said conflict with compromise" is the only part of that definition I have problem with. It assumes the parties involved are willing but unable to have a non-violent solution, which isn't always the case.

edit: I am arguing semantics, so I guess this point is irrelevant.


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Well said everyone, but what will we do? Us, the kids 😕 Will we continue this path of destruction or change the world? We can see the mistakes clearer then people in the past so it's are turn to make this world...ours! United we stand, divided we fall. Truly, children are the future... But right now looking at he world, like Asuka Langley Soryu says,

...how disgusting...

I don't want to end on a sad note, so please everyone, we have to do something and fast, right now! 😃


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Nations go to war because it is profitable for someone, arms makers, politicians, people who have interests in the other country that conflict with the people in charge of that country. Someone always makes a profit off of another's misery. Sorry to say it, but human beings have in ingrained mean and selfish streak, and I don't think we'll ever evolve out of it. 🙁

its more of nature in general... we eat off other living things to survive... in human being's case, they want more than survival, they are also curious beings which both puts them above beasts, but being curious also puts them below beasts at the same time when it is gone far enough beyond the line of where their own curiosity kills them... wars being going on since birth of humans, even now, and will always go on, just with more intellect way of handling things, and covering up for what they did to each other...

you know whats funny though? countries like afghanistan and iraq, we are having war with them for the very reason they have possible massive weapons and destruction... but coindicently countries like those have a shit load of oil and resources in them, and while north korea is obviously the highest suspect of having the biggest nuclear missiles, they also at the same time dont have a single drop of oils and resources in their country...

bush is an idiot, just keep your hopes up on who youre voting for this time, you dont want a second fuck up


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Yes, yes I am.

The antisemitism was an reaction to the economic and social conditions in Wiemar Germany. WWII would have still happened had Hitler not hated the Jews.

No, it wouldn't. It's called World War, because in almost every continent of the world was being fought. Hitler's 'drive-force' to expand his German territory was not only to unify all German-speaking areas together but also to search for and eradicate the Jews completely from Europe. He even said so explicitly in a recorded movie.

If that drive-force wasn't there, the war wouldn't nearly had such an extent on Europe as it id.

Therefore tallying into the
'war-is-started-because-of-multiple-reasons' argument.
I'm just saying it was one of the reasons of the conflict in Europe.

Since I'm an European, I completely neglected the fact that America/Japan/Soviet Union/etc. were involved in WWII too.
A sincere mistake on my part.


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Well said everyone, but what will we do? Us, the kids 😕 Will we continue this path of destruction or change the world? We can see the mistakes clearer then people in the past so it's are turn to make this world...ours! United we stand, divided we fall. Truly, children are the future... But right now looking at he world, like Asuka Langley Soryu says,

...how disgusting...

I don't want to end on a sad note, so please everyone, we have to do something and fast, right now! 😃

I am not a child, nor am I naive enough to think that there will ever be an end to war.

If I want something that you have, and I'm willing to kill you for it, what are you going to do?

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Since I'm an European, I completely neglected the fact that America/Japan/Soviet Union/etc. were involved in WWII too.
A sincere mistake on my part.

This is the statement that drove my response.

It may not have come from Germany, but you also have to take into account the Depression era Spain and Italy.

The eradication of non-Germanic peoples may have been one of the reasons why the war escalated so, but the only reason Hitler was able to justify his actions was the state of the Wiemar economy.


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