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"I'm pretty sure that Germany was at an economical
turmoil at the moment too, and Hitler used that to manipulate
the people to think that the Jews were the cause of all that."

You should've seen the Anti-propaganda he made about Jews.

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"I'm pretty sure that Germany was at an economical
turmoil at the moment too, and Hitler used that to manipulate
the people to think that the Jews were the cause of all that."

You should've seen the Anti-propaganda he made about Jews.

I have.

And I agree partly with what you are saying.

But it was your wording, I guess.

I don't doubt that you meant 'Zomg, WWII was caused because Hitler hated Jews' but that's kinda what I got from you're post. That kind of stuff annoys me as much as people saying that the American Civil War was caused by Slavery.

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Of course not.

I'm a firm believer that wars are caused by multiple of reasons.

It's like cause -> action -> cause -> action -> cause...
'till it hits -> turning point, and that's when the war starts.
(Something like that...)

For example if there will be a war between Russia, and the US
in the future, then you could definitely say that the Georgia conflict
added to the tensions between them, and was only one of the many
reasons that the war started in the first place.

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That kind of stuff annoys me as much as people saying that the American Civil War was caused by Slavery.

When you say that, do you mean the misconception that the civil war was started to get rid of slavery (or in the defense of slavery, depending on which side you look from)?

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That kind of stuff annoys me as much as people saying that the American Civil War was caused by Slavery.

When you say that, do you mean the misconception that the civil war was started to get rid of slavery (or in the defense of slavery, depending on which side you look from)?

What? 😕

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What?

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Well, Slavery was a large contributing factor to the political strife that caused the succesion. So, in that regard slavery did help cause the war.

But you get pissed at people who say slavery caused the war. So I am asking if you mean when people think that the war was fought to free the slaves (from the perspective of the north) or to keep slaves (from the southern perspective)

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Well, Slavery was a large contributing factor to the political strife that caused the succesion. So, in that regard slavery did help cause the war.

But you get pissed at people who say slavery caused the war. So I am asking if you mean when people think that the war was fought to free the slaves (from the perspective of the north) or to keep slaves (from the southern perspective)

I'm black.

It wasn't about Slavery.

It was about the amount of power the Federal Gov't has to enforce laws that the Secession states believed was under their jurisdiction.

There were 5 states that remained with the Union that had legal slavery.

Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, three years after the war started, and was only ended in the Secession states, not the loyal states that allowed slavery.

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I'm black.

It wasn't about Slavery.

It was about the amount of power the Federal Gov't has to enforce laws that the Secession states believed was under their jurisdiction.

There were 5 states that remained with the Union that had legal slavery.

Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, three years after the war started, and was only ended in the Secession states, not the loyal states that allowed slavery.

RIght, we didn't fight the war to free the slaves. But the issue of slavery was central to the conflict.

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Two reasons. One, they don't agree with eachother, two, they need more land or are just plain greedy.

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I'm black.

It wasn't about Slavery.

It was about the amount of power the Federal Gov't has to enforce laws that the Secession states believed was under their jurisdiction.

There were 5 states that remained with the Union that had legal slavery.

Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, three years after the war started, and was only ended in the Secession states, not the loyal states that allowed slavery.

RIght, we didn't fight the war to free the slaves. But the issue of slavery was central to the conflict.

No it wasn't.

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Wasn't the issue that the south left the country to continue having slaves, and the north went to war to get the south back?

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Idk.

That war was because some states wanted slaves and some thought it was wrong to own slaves... So it was a war because they didn't agree.

I thought everyone knew this. XD

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I'm black.

It wasn't about Slavery.

It was about the amount of power the Federal Gov't has to enforce laws that the Secession states believed was under their jurisdiction.

There were 5 states that remained with the Union that had legal slavery.

Slavery wasn't ended until 1864, three years after the war started, and was only ended in the Secession states, not the loyal states that allowed slavery.

RIght, we didn't fight the war to free the slaves. But the issue of slavery was central to the conflict.

No it wasn't.

As far as my history teacher taught, slavery was a sencondary issue for the north. As tzk said the goal was to preserve the union, with or without slavery.

That is why even after the war the states bordering the former confederacy got to keep slavery, as a "reward" for loyalty.

The majority of events leading up to the succession by the southern states involved political issues connected to slavery.

Its true we did not fight over slavery, but to say slavery wasn't a cause of the war is narrow minded in my opinion. But to say slavery was the sole or even main cause of the war is ignorance.

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