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Honourable death...

I don't think there is such a thing. Especially when you die because of your own stupidity.

Dulce Et Decorum Est

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one of famous war poetry from WWI

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but there is no honor in death.
once you're dead, that's the end. only void.

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I find it very funny how everybody is discussing if Cody was very stupid or just young and naive because he killed himself.

When the fact is that he didn't kill himself the other 5 kids killed him.

He couldn't have buried himself alive, the other kids did it.

Now, I don't know if the kids really wanted to murder him, or if it really was a very stupid (or young and naive) accident. But the fact is that those kids killed him.

USA is a country where young teens massacre their classmates with firearms, this didn't happened only one time, we all have know of several cases.

Why is so hard for everybody to say: "5 kids killed a playmate", instead of "A kid got himself kill while playing Naruto"

Yep, that is it. The Press put it that way because it´s more appealing to the public.

I think putting it "5 kids killed a playmate" is more appealing to the public than "a kid got himself kill while playing Naruto." Most people would say that another dumb kid lost his life by immitating cartoon, but if the headline was "5 kids killed a playmate," that's when people would start think about the cause of this incident.

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I find it very funny how everybody is discussing if Cody was very stupid or just young and naive because he killed himself.

When the fact is that he didn't kill himself the other 5 kids killed him.

He couldn't have buried himself alive, the other kids did it.

Now, I don't know if the kids really wanted to murder him, or if it really was a very stupid (or young and naive) accident. But the fact is that those kids killed him.

USA is a country where young teens massacre their classmates with firearms, this didn't happened only one time, we all have know of several cases.

Why is so hard for everybody to say: "5 kids killed a playmate", instead of "A kid got himself kill while playing Naruto"

Yep, that is it. The Press put it that way because it´s more appealing to the public.

Well this is the basic, when Naruto first appeared in the U.S. it was announced as as any kids anime, fun and morals, and now when a kid is at fault much more than the series, the people dont blame him but say that Naruto is an obscure sand-killing anime, since they either cant or dont want to blame the other 5 they search for the next best thing, and that is my friends NARUTO

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OK people, lets get a few things straight...

First point - It seems that ikuyoK's not as enlightened on the topic of Natural Selection as he thinks he is or would like to be (judging by his posts so far). I will do him and everyone else who doesn't know a favor by posting a link to wikipedia about natural selection. The saying "the strong live and the weak die" is a very crude way to explain Natural Selection and I suppose that is why people (who don't know what they are talking about) tend to get confused. I'll save myself some work and just post what you can already see in wikipedia:

"Natural selection is the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable heritable traits become less common. Natural selection acts on the phenotype, or the observable characteristics of an organism, such that individuals with favorable phenotypes are more likely to survive and reproduce than those with less favorable phenotypes. If these phenotypes have a genetic basis, then the genotype associated with the favorable phenotype will increase in frequency in the next generation. Over time, this process can result in adaptations that specialize organisms for particular ecological niches and may eventually result in the emergence of new species."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

As you can see there is nothing about strength alone. It is the adaptation of an organism. Strength isn't the only genetic trait that can get passed down to future generations.

Now I know people tried explaining this but I would just like to make it very clear.

Second point - There was a few people that really really underestimate a ten year old kid. If kids were that stupid you would see many more crazy accidents and fatalities than we do now. How many other stories can you think out (that you are sure aren't just rumors) of ten year olds killing themselves imitating a cartoon. Most likely a very small amount that you can count on your fingertips. The vast majority of 10 year olds don't commit suicide by doing something as ridiculous as burying your head in the sand. Accidents do happen, however and it is possible to imitate a sword fight and for someone to get seriously injured or die. Its just that this particular case is on a whole other level. What can u expect to happen when u get buried in sand head first?

Last point - I completely agree with MajorMarmot, no kid is that stupid even if he is, he would at least try to get out when they start to bury him in the sand. This is plain bullying turned murder. Could even be possible the other kids wanted to seriously hurt (if not kill) him. Someone must have been holding that kid down while the others were shoveling sand and burying him. This doesn't even sound remotely like an accident.

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this is SAD people. not funny. how can some of u actually say its funny? and naruto isnt 2 blame 1 bit. if these kids were naruto fans they would kno exactly what gaara does and that he doesnt bury any1 and that all his victims are obviously dead. i think these kids were bored and werent thinking at all. major baka moment i say. and when they found out what they did they did what many teens have done....blame it on something popular. their case was naruto. but u cant tell me u havent seen people blame stealing cars on grand theft auto. and even the adults on the report were stupid. they couldnt pronounce narutos name right. even after they showed a clip of sakura screaming his name clear enough 4 anyone 2 go" oh so thats how u say his name" and i found the vid they used as an example and she gave her own views on the situation and the vid is actually pretty funny ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4eadNKKtBc

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this is SAD people. not funny. how can some of u actually say its funny? and naruto isnt 2 blame 1 bit. if these kids were naruto fans they would kno exactly what gaara does and that he doesnt bury any1 and that all his victims are obviously dead. i think these kids were bored and werent thinking at all. major baka moment i say. and when they found out what they did they did what many teens have done....blame it on something popular. their case was naruto. but u cant tell me u havent seen people blame stealing cars on grand theft auto. and even the adults on the report were stupid. they couldnt pronounce narutos name right. even after they showed a clip of sakura screaming his name clear enough 4 anyone 2 go" oh so thats how u say his name" and i found the vid they used as an example and she gave her own views on the situation and the vid is actually pretty funny ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4eadNKKtBc

Like I said, dont blame the kids who did it, Blame the thing we cant pronounce

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Yes well like you said we don't want "Darwin to revolve in his grave" so I did everyone a favor and explained natural selection because people talk about stuff that they don't get... "Make sure to use google and/or an encyclopedia before you talk/type and make a fool out of yourself" - is my personal moto.

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OK people, lets get a few things straight...

First point - It seems that ikuyoK's not as enlightened on the topic of Natural Selection as he thinks he is or would like to be (judging by his posts so far).

I don't exactly get it. Cause it appears as though everything I've said coincides with you're previous three posts... I knew the definition before you posted it too. If you could point out where my false statements or inconsistencies lie. Maybe that would help me to understand your reasoning..

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I'm always using google.. It's even my homepage..

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OK people, lets get a few things straight...

First point - It seems that ikuyoK's not as enlightened on the topic of Natural Selection as he thinks he is or would like to be (judging by his posts so far).

I don't exactly get it. Cause it appears as though everything I've said coincides with you're previous three posts... I knew the definition before you posted it too. If you could point out where my false statements or inconsistencies lie. Maybe that would [b]help me to understand your reasoning..

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I'm always using google.. It's even my homepage..

Here I shall help you understand my reasoning.

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Second - Those of you who are 19 or below presenting Natural Selection as your argument are just about as dumb as they are. Only a bit smarter. You can't say you're strong because you've been living off of your parents your entire life. So you haven't killed yourself..

In the above point you clearly misunderstand what natural selection is. You say that we cannot present natural selection as an argument because we aren't strong?
What the hell? First of all, speaking of "strength" is wrong when talking about natural selection because that isn't what it is at all. Second, you can't assume that someone who has been living with his/her parents with his whole life is dumb and or weak (which really has nothing to do with natural selection OR a persons knowledge of it). There are lots of university students over 19 who live with their parents. There are also many youth under than 19 who live on their own.
I am sorry but I just can't understand your argument.

Again, natural selection is the "process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms." Now I understand you are trying to say people who have lived with their parents their whole lives without managing to kill themselves is no big feat, and shouldn't therefore make fun of the kid, however that has nothing to do with presenting natural selection as an argument.

Edit: All that I and the others sharing my view are trying to point out is that IF the kid did that to himself then this is just Natural Selection at work. Whether or not we live with out parents has nothing to do with whether or not we have favorable genes. I suppose you were trying to say that unless we have experienced life for ourselves we don't know if our genes are useful enough to allow us to survive natural selection. That however has nothing to do with being able to SPOT natural selection at work. There is the possibility that we don't have favorable hereditary traits that will become more common in successive generations (meaning we will die before we pass our genes on) but that really has nothing to do with being able to tell when Natural Selection might be at work.

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Honourable death...

I don't think there is such a thing. Especially when you die because of your own stupidity.

Dulce Et Decorum Est

sounds familiar?
one of famous war poetry from WWI

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori - it is sweet and right to die for your country

but there is no honor in death.
once you're dead, that's the end. only void.

Yeah, the last line is what I kinda wrote too,
and he didn't die for his country at all

For the poem, I know it, when we were studying WWI I came across it once

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[quote=The Steed]Honourable death...

I don't think there is such a thing. Especially when you die because of your own stupidity.

Dulce Et Decorum Est

sounds familiar?
one of famous war poetry from WWI

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori - it is sweet and right to die for your country

but there is no honor in death.
once you're dead, that's the end. only void.

Yeah, the last line is what I kinda wrote too,
and he didn't die for his country at all

For the poem, I know it, when we were studying WWI I came across it once
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He died out of stupidity, tell the situation between naruto and him would be Margaritas ante porcum

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[quote=achlys][quote=The Steed]Honourable death...

I don't think there is such a thing. Especially when you die because of your own stupidity.

Dulce Et Decorum Est

sounds familiar?
one of famous war poetry from WWI

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori - it is sweet and right to die for your country

but there is no honor in death.
once you're dead, that's the end. only void.

Yeah, the last line is what I kinda wrote too,
and he didn't die for his country at all

For the poem, I know it, when we were studying WWI I came across it once
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He died out of stupidity, tell the situation between naruto and him would be Margaritas ante porcum[/quote]

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I don't see what the big deal is about Naruto anyway. Remember that kid who drowned himself in the water cause he thought he was going to see Spongebob? Parents need to take their child away from tv and other inappropriate influences. Also, it is the duty of the parents or guardians to tell the child what is real and what is not. Now they may hold off telling them about Santa or other religious figures, because simply no child is going to put himself in a freezer to go to the North Pole.

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you all need help in the head. So do not talk anymore.

I don't see what the big deal is about Naruto anyway. Remember that kid who drowned himself in the water cause he thought he was going to see Spongebob? Parents need to take their child away from tv and other inappropriate influences. Also, it is the duty of the parents or guardians to tell the child what is real and what is not. Now they may hold off telling them about Santa or other religious figures, because simply no child is going to put himself in a freezer to go to the North Pole.

WTF? A kid drowned himself in the water cause he thought he was going to see Spongebob? My God, thats like 3 levels down from this kid, kids these days, dont know how to distinguish reality and fiction

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