Getting revenge is pretty much worthless - especially the passive-aggressive sort where nothing really changes.

Obviously I don't know your situation well ... but I think the best response to getting spat on would have been to throw a punch. Doesn't matter if he'll hurt you - if he's like the bullies I know he'll back off a bit. Not because you're suddenly threatening or whatever but because you're more respectable.

... of course, if you're really pathetic, that'll probably just make it worse. So ... yeah. Good luck.

Can't you have a word with your tutor or teacher and ask to be moved into other classes?

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wow, spat in your face? There no justification for that. Its obvious that all other options will result in his escape.
He is popular so you can't fight back? Does he get 20-30 friends if he gets pushed around? In that case your in trouble.

But honestly if i were you even though i knew i would probably get beat up i would lay a nice solid punch on his face for the pure gratification! Just that one thing to make his day misrable. Run if you have to after.

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Don't look so good. "tell a teacher" smurk.

lets be honest, we all know that does jack 🤣 Popular and a jackass, oh thats quite a popular combination....Must be some kind of D*%k measuring contest for him since his got a pretty small piNu$ perhaps?

You have better odds of a hit and run. When i used to be in school there was an incident like that with this guy who looked like you could just push him over like a twig. Randomly one day they were bullying him and BAM straight to the face, no warning, nothing a punch to the face from him, everyone's expression was more a like: 😲 that. :.Did he get away with it? He got away with it and managed to shave the guys reputation close to, 0. Obviously this can all go wrong but hey.

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Violence is the best option.
When I was in 8th grade there was this girl. She was ugly, fat actually, and stupid, I'm not exagerating she couldn't even read right and my language is one of the easies reading languages you could come across. Anyway from time to time she snaped and tried to bully me. Once she stung a pen in my hand and I got really angry and faught her. I got beaten, since she was twice my size, but she didn't try doing that ever again.
So I think you should confront him.
Also you should maybe try to get close to one of his buddies and find out why is he bullying you. Not to make peace with this retard but to know how to avoid a situation like this in the future. In my case it was just jealousy, since she had no friends, no looks, no brains - yea I still hate her -.
And don't try to get revenge in a way he doesn't know it was you because even if he gets out of the picture one of his friends might easily take his place. Whatever you do, do it with a big crowd.
And a change of attitude wouldn't hurt. You keep saying "I'm so week", well do something about it. Try some sports, change your wardrobe, your facial expression, start listening to some agresive music.

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Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Since it seems like you can't do much as it is now you should bide your time and if some time in the future the tables turn you shove him into the dirt and make him suffer. >:-(

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Im pretty pissed off right now and i am thinking of doing something in revenge preferably something that he would be unable to figure out who the culprit was.
I am looking for suggestions for the best way to pay back this person or suggestions for how to deal with it.

Also telling the teacher or something is not an option as its pretty obvious what will happen. The teacher will scold him and force him to apologize and nothing else will result. The bullying will just get worse.

:-(

I think you're being petty and acting like a coward. Getting back to him in some sneaky way so he doesn't even know who did it is one of the pettiest things you could do. Even confronting him and beating him up with a baseball bat wouldn't be so cowardice.

The reason why you should not tell the teacher is not because the bullying would get worse, but because that's even pettier act.

If you think you're too weak and think you might be in similar situations in the future, I think you should try to get stronger and beat them up yourself. But if you think that guy's just an exception, then it's all about the mindset. Person with a weak mindset probably won't be able to stop bullying no matter what they do.

If you confidently confront him and tell him in insulting way that you apologize if you're insulted him in some way and ask him to stop bullying you. If it doesn't work, then just beat him up. Fight like your life is on the line—even if the bully is stronger than you, he should have a bullying mindset towards you, so he shouldn't be able to use proper strength against you. Don't think losing as an option. If you still lose, that means that the opponent is just too strong, and you're too weak. But if you fought properly and didn't give up, it's very likely that he won't bully you anymore.

If he still bullies you, then I think it's alright to use a baseball bat or something; since your difference of strength is so big, you'll need a handicap for it to be fair, though it doesn't need to be exactly fair either, because continuing to bully someone who fought back as hard as they could.

But if you can admit to yourself that you're a coward and a petty person, then go ahead and do your silly pranks, if you think it makes you feel better.

On the side note, in elementary school someone tried to bully me and I spit him in his face. I think if someone spits you in the face—unless you know you deserve it—you should hit them in the face.

Oh, I just now read your comment about being weak. A physically weak person isn't weak if their mind is strong. Just beat up everyone who annoys you (I mean tries to bully you).

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hmm and the other people stood there?

Bleh, if someone lets themselves be spit in the face without saying anything about it, why should anyone help them? It would be different if the spitter is in a group, or if he's many year senior of the other person.

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Stop being weak and kick his ass.

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My sisters and brother used to help me out. If you don't have that option and don't think telling your parents would help you might have to fight him. Maybe aim for his balls or something and get in a cheap hit. Though..I dunno what kind of person he is. That might make him want revenge. 😔

Right, being cheap from the start just makes it worse in the end.

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I dont want to get into a fight with him because im pretty sure him and his "cronies" will be able to do much more than my few friends and i don't think attacking him directly will fix nothing unless we manage to beat them which is highly unlikely T-T

Im hoping that violence isn't my only option but from what people are saying it seems it's the only option T-T
Im considering doing something cheap like kicking him in the balls like Whatever suggested but i dont know if that would cause more problems...

You think kicking him in the balls makes him stop bullying you? Think again. But who'd want to bully someone who isn't weak-minded and fights back bravely. If they had any respect for you, they probably wouldn't bully you. They bully you because your weak (so it's partly your own fault too).

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And make sure you don't get caught for doing it. 😛

People who do those kind of things are worse than the people they do it to. For some people it's hard to understand how other people suffer, and sometimes they bully other people because they have some problems themselves. Getting them to realize what they're doing or making them realize that they can't just bully whoever they want and they might become very nice people. Getting them suspended from school or something like that just makes things worse and they might end up doing things much worse than just some petty bullying.

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Some boy did it when I was three or four years old and I threw a handful of sand in his eyes. He regretted it.

That's what kids should be like.

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Can't you have a word with your tutor or teacher and ask to be moved into other classes?

That right! Avoiding inconveniences instead of confronting them is best start early, so it's easier to continue to do so for the rest of your life.

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Don't look so good. "tell a teacher" smurk.

What a stupid advice. Why don't you just tell your mother. At least she probably believes you without even hearing the other person's point of view. Then you can hide behind her when she goes tell the bully's mother and watch as the bully gets scolded by his own mother.

I once saw some kid tell a teacher that he was getting bullied with his clothes all dirty and face beat up. The teacher said something like this: "You're a man, aren't you? Hit him back" (awesome advice from a teacher). Next week I saw the guy who I was told was the bully with a black eye, and the bullied guy with his face even more beat up, and never heard of him getting bullied by him again.

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People who do those kind of things are worse than the people they do it to. For some people it's hard to understand how other people suffer, and sometimes they bully other people because they have some problems themselves. Getting them to realize what they're doing or making them realize that they can't just bully whoever they want and they might become very nice people. Getting them suspended from school or something like that just makes things worse and they might end up doing things much worse than just some petty bullying.

Ahhh... but that's how things ran in the "society" and in the "generation" I grew up in. Maintain a veneer of "politeness", "be nice and do everything in a certain way or that". And instead, being TOO open and obvious with the things you did = traitor, social outcast, morally corrupt, outsider. To be exact, such a person would often no longer consider be as a "human" by their peers, their elders and sometimes, even their family. And sometimes, the "punishment" wasn't for a short period of time but for almost life.

In effect, people would use body language, intuition and other kind of skills to "sense out" who was doing what. And to "not be sneaky" or "being too open" was considered a sign of disrespect of the other person's face, humiliating your own face, a violation of social norms and so on. And everything was like "utterly nice but cloaks and daggers behind your back". That was called "the right way of doing things" but to those who're from the more open cultures, it seems kinda "screwed up", "low and dirty" actually.

It wasn't until the country started to open up and become more and more Westernized(Americanized to be exact), that's when the perceptions of such behaviour started to change. But it'll take decades or if not, a very long time, for things to really change. Even now, people are still somewhat subtle at times in terms of "dealing with office politics", "school problems", etc.

I keep forgetting that we're talking about "different societies, different viewpoints" here. 🙂

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Ahhh... but that's how things ran in the "society" and in the "generation" I grew up in. Maintain a veneer of "politeness", "be nice and do everything in a certain way or that". And instead, being TOO open and obvious with the things you did = traitor, social outcast, morally corrupt, outsider. To be exact, such a person would often no longer consider be as a "human" by their peers, their elders and sometimes, even their family. And sometimes, the "punishment" wasn't for a short period of time but for almost life.

In effect, people would use body language, intuition and other kind of skills to "sense out" who was doing what. And to "not be sneaky" or "being too open" was considered a sign of disrespect of the other person's face, humiliating your own face, a violation of social norms and so on. And everything was like "utterly nice but cloaks and daggers behind your back". That was called "the right way of doing things" but to those who're from the more open cultures, it seems kinda "screwed up", "low and dirty" actually.

It wasn't until the country started to open up and become more and more Westernized(Americanized to be exact), that's when the perceptions of such behaviour started to change. But it'll take decades or if not, a very long time, for things to really change. Even now, people are still somewhat subtle at times in terms of "dealing with office politics", "school problems", etc.

I keep forgetting that we're talking about "different societies, different viewpoints" here. 🙂

It sounds like a society in some dystopian novel. Where exactly did you grow up?

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So thanks for all the suggestions today ended up being pretty interesting.
Today he came up to me and was harassing me and started pushing me around. I was pretty pissed off and i asked him to stop repeatedly. One of his friends said something like leave him alone but he kept pushing me and i was so pissed off that i punched him as hard as i could in the nose when he tried to push me again

He was really shocked and then his nose started bleeding heaps it was pretty scary i thought i had seriously injured him. Anyways after the nurse said it wasn't anything serious we both had to go to the coordinators office in which i told him about how i was being bullied repeatedly by him. We both got scolded and he got sent home and i was asked to stay for a bit. The coordinator then told me about how this student was having a lot of problems at home and that i should try and be more understanding. He didn't go into specifics but apparantly his parents are getting divorced or something :S
In the end i was let off without getting into any trouble but my parents were notified and when i got home they gave me a big talk about bullying etc.

So hopefully he might think first before trying something again? Even if it ends up making things worse i feel alot better now that i've paid him back for what he did and i guess i learned im stronger than i thought ^^

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in which i told him about how i was being bullied repeatedly by him

Why? To justify yourself, or just to get help from other people? Perhaps he won't bully you again, but if you hadn't told the teacher he's bullying you, I don't think he would bear any grunge towards you, which he now might.

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i guess i learned im stronger than i thought ^^

Not to ruin your mood or anything, but even a little kid can get blood out of someone's nose by punching them by surprise. But what I want to say is that, physical strength isn't all that matter but also to have a strong will.

Unless you're someone to carry pretty grunge yourself, here's something good you might do: Apologize for hitting him and telling the teacher. If you want to feel good about punching him, maybe you shouldn't, but if you're not such a petty person, by apologizing (even if he's also at fault) you can probably end the bullying for good.

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They can get suspended for that shit.
Or you can go to the police cause that is harassment.

If the bullying gets worse? Just continue to tell on him.
I did it all through highschool and I SAVED my ass from being whooped plenty-o-times and people just thought it was funny. My friends were still my friends. And people who hated me still hate me.

Good job for punching him though. WIN
If you're in elementary school or middle school bullying can be rough but in high school its just meh.

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I'm with Kitteh. I was bullied for 10 years, it was just name calling and being isolated it primary school but my bullies followed me to high school where it escalated to having my stuff stolen, people befriending me only to arrange to meet and mock me when they didn't show and eventually violence. I always fought back. None of it had helped but it made me feel better than just lying down and taking it. It helped that after I was jumped by 4 lads during the summer my brother and sister, both of whom were very popular, threatened him and anyone who so much as looked at me funny.

I made a reputation as a grass (or snitch if you prefer) by making friends with the right teachers. When I became a prefect in year 10 and 11 I got some measure of revenge by getting people detention. I was even stabbed with a fork once by a cocky girl 2 years below me when her pathetic threats to 'get me after school' failed to leave me cowering and bending to her wishes. I say stabbed but it barely hurt and I just burst into laughter at the attempt before getting her suspended. By this time I'd made a group of friends who were also geeks if not as street wise. I left school at 16 to go to 6th form college and never looked back.

Fighting back may not have stopped me being bullied but it let people know that I wasn't a door mat and they couldn't walk over me. I made my friends eventually and were happy with them so sod being popular. I'm not sorry I was a grass either since I would have been bullied either way and the teachers were as powerless to change opinions of me as I was so instead of whining about my plight I just told on anyone I saw breaking the rules. The teachers gave me a lot of leeway then when I bent the rules and I was granted some measure of protection like being allowed to eat in classrooms when I was alone before I made friends and being made a prefect. It worked as well because people learnt to leave me alone, they weren't my friends but they stopped bothering me as long as I let little things I saw slide.

Going through crap at home is no excuse to take it out of someone else. Everyone has stuff to deal with and he deserved that punch, good for you. Though if you don't want this to escalte maybe apologising would be wise. If he still continues then you've tried your best to make amends so I say sod it and do whatever it takes to make him leave you alone.

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They can get suspended for that shit.
Or you can go to the police cause that is harassment.

If the bullying gets worse? Just continue to tell on him.
I did it all through highschool and I SAVED my ass from being whooped plenty-o-times and people just thought it was funny. My friends were still my friends. And people who hated me still hate me.

Good job for punching him though. WIN
If you're in elementary school or middle school bullying can be rough but in high school its just meh.

You're supposed to take care of it yourself. Though if it's boys bullying a girl, then it's different.

Why is it "just meh" in high school? I know two people (not personally) who've tried suicide because of bullying, the other one succeeded, the other one had something wrong with his head from the start so of course he failed something so simple, I don't know where he's now, but apparently he's not crazy anymore (though I doubt it's possible for a human being not to be).

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I'm with Kitteh. I was bullied for 10 years, it was just name calling and being isolated it primary school but my bullies followed me to high school where it escalated to having my stuff stolen, people befriending me only to arrange to meet and mock me when they didn't show and eventually violence. I always fought back. None of it had helped but it made me feel better than just lying down and taking it. It helped that after I was jumped by 4 lads during the summer my brother and sister, both of whom were very popular, threatened him and anyone who so much as looked at me funny.

You say you fought back, but did you actually fight back? As I see it, you can't win against a stronger person if you don't actually plan to win. It's not just about fighting back (which I take as "resisting"). No one can really beat you up properly if you're fighting back for real, and you should fight as long as you can (that is, as long as you are conscious). If you put such effort into it, it's not very likely that they're going to bully you again.

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Going through crap at home is no excuse to take it out of someone else.

It's really hard for most people to realize other person's suffering. Other people's pain doesn't feel real. Why do you think people enjoy chicken fighting and dog fighting, gladiator battles, and seeing weak people suffer? I'm not saying I know why, but I'd be willing to bet it's not because they're evil.

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Don't look so good. "tell a teacher" smurk.

What a stupid advice. Why don't you just tell your mother. At least she probably believes you without even hearing the other person's point of view. Then you can hide behind her when she goes tell the bully's mother and watch as the bully gets scolded by his own mother.
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Man....that was sarcasm...do you think at all? Tell your mother? That only works with kinder-garden children. Most of the parents with kids like that don't really care.

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