If there's a male mangaka who write Yaoi manga, he's 100% gay for sure............ because I think there's no straight male will ever do that!
So, I think there's no male mangaka in Yaoi world! 🤨

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I think Kisaragi Hirotaka is a guy, and his art is amazing. I can't really think of anyone else that's a guy.

Haven't you ever heard of Bara? Yaoi centered towards a gay male audience, and is usually written by gay or bi males.

There's no I in TEAM but there's a U in SUCK

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“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..”
― John Milton, Paradise Lost

Anyone cares to make a good list for other readers?

I recently came upon an author named [Mentaiko]. He's male; in one of his afterword thingees, he talks about how he came out of the closet in high school and how he's living with his lover now. I personally think the art is very nice; it isn't too muscular, but it still has a bit of muscle and hair... if you don't mind that. The stories are also very nice; Itai Itai Itai being the most popular one. It has a very nice plot - even though the series isn't finished yet. Hope I helped 😀

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Anyone cares to make a good list for other readers?

Here's what I have.
KANBE Akira
KISARAGI Hirotaka
KOUSAKA Tohru - artist of Okane ga Nai
KUJOU Aoi
MAYA Mineo - shounen-ai
SAKURA Haiji
SHINOZAKI Hitoyo - author of Okane ga Nai
UZUKI Jun - former assistant of EIKI Eiki

@ iispambiotches
As it says in Mentaiko's biography, his works are "mostly gay male-oriented". That makes them bara, which is what gay men read and write for themselves. Since Manga Updates doesn't have 'Bara' as a Genre, many works of bara are misclassified here as yaoi.

[edited out TAKATSUKI Noboru, 09-19-2013; added KANBE Akira 06-15-2014]

Is bara supposed to be considered a separate genre from yaoi? I always kind of thought of it as a sub-genre. All yaoi is about male x male relationships, but bara yaoi was written by and for gay men. Of course, that doesn't mean that women can't enjoy bara

My best information - and I have spent a good bit of time researching this - is that bara and yaoi are separate genres. It's true that they are both about male x male relationships, but they are created to appeal to different demographics. Bara is a sub-genre of seinen, created by gay men for gay men. Yaoi (or BL) is created by women for women, to appeal to women's tastes. They share no common history as far as I have been able to determine, and the art styles are different. Bara also doesn't seem to have the seme / uke dichotomy that we see in BL, and what I have seen of it is more PWP and less relationship-oriented than most BL.

Bara is apparently older than either shounen-ai or yaoi. From what I have been able to find out, the creators of shounen-ai (TAKEMIYA Keiko and friend Masuyama Nori, though not HAGIO Moto who found inspiration elsewhere) were to some extent inspired by publications for gay men. I don't know if these had manga in them, or just pictures. This was in the mid-1970s; yaoi came later, in the late 1980's.

KaoriNite, as you said all this is not to say that women can't enjoy bara, and I know for a fact that some gay men read yaoi. I've heard that NITTA Youka has a following with gay men, and also MIYAMOTO Kano. Neither of these mangaka draw in what could be considered bara style. Then to muddy the waters even further we have a few BL mangaka who draw their men in a beefier style, such as SAKIRA.

Sorry for going on so long. I just kind of have an analytical way of looking at things. 😳

Isn't Mentaiko male and the one of the authors (or both?) of Okane Ga Nai? I was too lazy to read through the comments so if it's already been said...my bad. I think some authors of bara are probably male too...

[headdesk]

[crying facepalm]

Ahem... anyways, it seems like it's been confirmed that Takatsuki Noboru is female once again. Guess we will never really know.

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Thanks Lanaaize for the correction. I've edited my post. I guess her bio has been updated since I made my list. TY

Then there would be no female mangaka of Bara. There is. The Man Of Tango is Bara and written by a female author.

KaoriNite, as you said all this is not to say that women can't enjoy bara, and I know for a fact that some gay men read yaoi. I've heard that NITTA Youka has a following with gay men, and also MIYAMOTO Kano. Neither of these mangaka draw in what could be considered bara style. Then to muddy the waters even further we have a few BL mangaka who draw their men in a beefier style, such as SAKIRA.

scarletrhodelia, could the reason those two have a gay male following possibly be because Kano Miyamoto and Youka Nitta develop ALL their characters, male and female alike? I mean, just the fact that they develop their female characters a little more and because female characters tend to be minor characters in yaoi manga, it may demonstrate that they'll pay a little more attention to the development of their MAIN characters? I dunno. Just a thought.

z4xz4x, no, Asou Kai is female.

Odette, THIS:

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If I was to learn about homosexuality from a female yaoi mangaka, I would definitely get the wrong idea.

This is the conclusion I've come to after reading many a yaoi manga: Yaoi is not primarily about homosexuality. It is about women -- how they feel encumbered by the social construction of gender; how they have trouble identifying with female characters the way they are traditionally portrayed in manga; how they sometimes fantasize about men acting against male stereotypes by occupying "women's" roles.

There was a shounen-ai manga in the 80s about a futuristic world in which women have died out, and men have to become pregnant to carry on the human race; it won an award for feminist literature. At first, I didn't see what was feminist about it, but now I think I understand -- to imagine a world where gender truly doesn't matter, you have to imagine that there is only one gender;

is one of the most brilliant explanations concerning yaoi I have ever seen. THANK you for this!

I wouldn't know why certain yaoi mangaka have gay male readers. I usually attribute it to Nitta-sensei's beautiful men, and Miyamoto-sensei's (somewhat more) 'realistic' storylines.

Thanks for reposting what Odette said (though it's a little unclear that that's who you were quoting). This is indeed a very insightful comment. I'm putting together a new presentation on yaoi, and I'm going to use some of that. "Yaoi is not primarily about homosexuality. It is about women" I'm working on something about how all the yaoi tropes serve a purpose for the female reader, and this fits in with that. Example: The seme / uke trope allows the female reader to imagine herself in either role, in a way that is difficult when the couple is a man and a woman.

Marginal is the manga she was talking about, about the planet without women. It is by HAGIO Moto, one of the innovators of shounen-ai.

BTW, I last posted in this thread two years ago, and just happened to check in with the forums. Odette's post was from Jul 25 2009, so don't feel too bad if she (or anyone else) doesn't reply.
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