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[quote=Kitteh_13]Dude is this real life? Seriously though?
As everyone has said just act like how you act around boys. :/ We don't care.

Ah, don't know if I'd want that. I must confess that I'd want boys to restrain themselves just a bit, compared to if it was male company. Don't want them farting and talking about my friend's boobs in front of me.

Do guys actually do that? I'm a guy and I've never farted or talked about boobs with my guy friends.

depends how comfortable they're with the guys they're hanging out with, and i gotta agree i dont know that many girls that would want to be treated as if they're one of the guys, from what i know they want to be treated like a lady XD [/quote]

Guys tend to be surprised when a girl acts like them too. I guess even open-minded people subconsciously expect gender-specific behaviors from the opposite sex.

Eh... Girls might tell you they don't mind being treated as one of the guys, but the vast majority will hate it.

Girls don't like it when the guys around them start talking about attractive women. Some might force themselves to sound interested and involved, but the effort is palpable. When the guys start mentioning attractive women, the girlS present will be critical. When the guys start talking about unattractive women, the girlS present will be defensive. It's almost always been the same pattern; all indicative of annoyance. That is just one example of something that goes wrong with guys treat a girl as "one of the guys".

On the same note, I'm pretty sure most guys I know, including myself, would feel offended being treated as one of the girls.

Exceptions exist for most rules, including this one, but generally you should probably watch what you do and/or say using some common sense.

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I'm a girl (but I'm sure everyone knows this already...).

Okay, don't wear Axe. I'm not sure what those commercials are trying to portray nowadays, but Axe is freakin` nasty and extremely overpowering. Go for some lighter-scented stuff if you really need to mask odors. Old Spice seems like a better alternative.

Speaking of odor, make sure you are clean. Also, act clean. Be courteous. Be polite. Don't burp or fart. That's gross.

Learn something cool to impress a girl, like playing piano... or art... or breakdancing. Extra points. If you already know something, cool. If not, that's fine too.

A sense of humor is a plus. When awkward situations arise, make sure to bring up something funny. As long as it's not the stupid kind of funny, the girl will be happy that you tried to make the situation better. It's good to keep the conversation going with humor. Just make sure not to be too funny where it gets boring.

Don't get too scraggly with facial hair. There IS a limit! Actually, it depends on the girl's preferences... but I prefer smooth faces (and maybe a scruff here and there, but not all the time) to massive bird's nests.

If your wardrobe is lacking, spice it up. Girls like well-dressed guys.

If you want to spoil a girl, make sure to limit yourself. Don't have the mindset that satisfying a girl's wants is all there is to maintaining the relationship. If she is really demanding, she is using you, and thus, she's a gold digger.

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Dude is this real life? Seriously though?
As everyone has said just act like how you act around boys. :/ We don't care.

Ah, don't know if I'd want that. I must confess that I'd want boys to restrain themselves just a bit, compared to if it was male company. Don't want them farting and talking about my friend's boobs in front of me.

I'd think that guys wouldn't mind if we kept our period talks and bitching about other girls to ourselves either.

Not every guy/girl (or should I say man and woman?) talks like that. You might belong to a very different circle from Kitteh and I do. So I think it depends on the person. Indeed this is what you should pay attention to if you are that type of person.

Well...just be natural, and don't act like a five year old. Funny how so many people manage to get that wrong....use deodorant, and don't dress like your mother dresses you.

Oh, and you might want to keep your jokingly racist/sexist comments to yourself 😀 . Unless you happen to meet a girl who doesnt give a f*ck.

to nox's comment up there, personally i'd rather be treated like a guy than a girl. I've had it with guys leaning away and whispering comments to their guy buddies they think i can't handle because i'm a girl. I don't care if guys talk about attractive women, its not like their sex drive is going to magically dissapear for any woman except me. Of course, i'm the most attractive 😀 jk

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Dude is this real life? Seriously though?
As everyone has said just act like how you act around boys. :/ We don't care.

Ah, don't know if I'd want that. I must confess that I'd want boys to restrain themselves just a bit, compared to if it was male company. Don't want them farting and talking about my friend's boobs in front of me.

I'd think that guys wouldn't mind if we kept our period talks and bitching about other girls to ourselves either.

Not every guy/girl (or should I say man and woman?) talks like that. You might belong to a very different circle from Kitteh and I do. So I think it depends on the person. Indeed this is what you should pay attention to if you are that type of person.

I'm sincerely curious how you would know that though... what if the guys in your circle merely restrain themselves around girls like yourself? 🙂

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Be a man of your size.
If you have to bend beyond your frame,
you are not meant to be.

I act normal, which is not "normal" by any regular standards, around girls for the most part, unless i am attracted to them. If i am attracted to them then i just dont talk that much 😐 which is sad because i do have a lot to offer, yes i know soooo modest. 🙂

Listen!!! I think guys who listen to what girls have to say are the best. It's not just listening though! Giving some feedback is good too, especially because it shows that you care. If we didn't want the feedback, we would talking to a pillow or something instead.

Also, eye contact is important, but don't stare. Staring is creepy.

Compliments are nice and all, but too much of it will make you fake. It's always best to start off with a compliment and then talk about other things.

Be clean! Brush your teeth! Shower! Use deodorant! Nothing creepier than a guy that smells and is oily. Also, keep your glasses clean too...

Avoid skinship. I honestly feel like this is a double standard, because girls don't have to avoid skinship, but if a guy I don't really have interest in starts touching me, I get creeped out. But at the same time, I'm a touchy person in that I like to hit people when I get excited @@;;;;;; I'm just weird, but yeah, avoid skinship.

Overall though, I think the most important thing is to listen. Listening and caring (or at least pretending to care) is the best<3

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I'm sincerely curious how you would know that though... what if the guys in your circle merely restrain themselves around girls like yourself? 🙂

I might not know about them. But at least I know I am not one of those "girls" who talk about that kind of supposedly annoying girly stuff. So there are certainly people (like myself) of either sex who are not into the stuff you expect/assume us to be into.

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I'm sincerely curious how you would know that though... what if the guys in your circle merely restrain themselves around girls like yourself? 🙂

I might not know about them. But at least I know I am not one of those "girls" who talk about that kind of supposedly annoying girly stuff. So there are certainly people (like myself) of either sex who are not into the stuff you expect/assume us to be into.

Well, of course. I don't assume all or even most girls will be into "supposedly annoying girly stuff".

But do you talk about stuff with your girl friends that you would keep a lid on when guys are around?

I don't behave that much different around girls as I do around guys, but girls I know will generally get bored talking about the stuff my guy friends are interested or even excited about.

EDIT: Just yesterday, I had a long conversation with a couple guy friends about Californian marital law, because he was considering marriage. I was listing all the things men have to be wary of, and examples of how justice in liberal democratic countries will often screw over the guys. We bashed feminists a few times for good laughs.

I don't expect most women to sympathize or care about such a subject. Girls I know well would be annoyed or at the very least uncomfortable and defensive. It ruins the mood. It's just not as much in their interest as it is for guys.

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But do you talk about stuff with your girl friends that you would keep a lid on when guys are around?

My case is probably different. Nowadays I don't even think I have so-called girlfriends. So people around me are just friends to me no matter what sex they are. I usually talk more with people who have at least some common interests or hobbies (such as travel, music, etc). I've found that there are equal chance of me getting bored with females and males.

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EDIT: Just yesterday, I had a long conversation with a couple guy friends about Californian marital law, because he was considering marriage. I was listing all the things men have to be wary of, and examples of how justice in liberal democratic countries will often screw over the guys. We bashed feminists a few times for good laughs.

I don't expect most women to sympathize or care about such a subject. Girls I know well would be annoyed or at the very least uncomfortable and defensive. It ruins the mood. It's just not as much in their interest as it is for guys.

I won't have any opinion no matter who talks about that topic. I probably won't even hear it. It's simple, I am not that interested in law or marriage so I usually won't take part in conversations on them. But not every guy likes to bash so-called feminism like you do and not every women will be defensive about or very interested in feminism, don't you think? There are even different opinions among the same sex when gender-specific topics are brought up. I can say I have views different from a lot of women's in terms of gender, relationships, sex, etc. So nowadays I don't even talk about that with them anymore. It won't change our respective opinions.

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My case is probably different. Nowadays I don't even think I have so-called girlfriends. So people around me are just friends to me no matter what sex they are. I usually talk more with people who have at least some common interests or hobbies (such as travel, music, etc). I've found that there are equal chance of me getting bored with females and males.

So you don't talk about more sensitive, gender-specific stuff with your friends. I see. Well, I never doubted you anyway. I was just curious.

I never meant to imply that you or I would get bored talking to members of the opposite sex more often. It's just that when the issue of gender is unavoidable (like when discussing marriage, sex, relationships, etc), women generally don't like being treated like men, and vice versa. I think that much is reasonable, and even if you've rarely engaged in these sorts of discussions, you can at least understand.

I won't have any opinion no matter who talks about that topic. I probably won't even hear it. It's simple, I am not that interested in law or marriage. But not every guy likes to bash feminism and not very women will be defensive about or very interested in feminism, don't you think?

Of course. I know very few adamant feminists. And this isn't a case study about you specifically.

Not every guy likes to bash feminism, but men don't have as much reason to feel as threatened about an attack on it. Is that much understandable?

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Not every guy likes to bash feminism, but men don't have as much reason to feel as threatened about an attack on it. Is that much understandable?

Again, you are still generalizing, like evey man is the same.