Simple minded ppl, Yodaime simply sealed Kyuubi into naruto

so why does thou say he is dead

I am going to leave you with a mind opening point

Didn't Grandma Chiyo seal Shukaku inside Gaara, yet she didn't die untill she was posioned by Sasora?

Yodaime did the exact same thing as Grandma Chiyo....

The only way 3rd Hokage died is because he was tryna put a soul INSIDE the reaper...not into another entity, thus costing his own life....

hehe think about it....

But, is not not mentioned in the manga that the 4th died? I don't remember anything about Naruto's mother being claimed as dead, but the 4th is known as dead. The theory above just doen't work out. The Shukaku didn't have it's chakra split up as did the Kyuubi. We don't even know what sealing jutsu she used to do it. We know the sealing jutsu the 4th used was much different from that she used. Kishi isn't the type to state something so bluntly and then go back and state something else. If the 4th is dead, as Kishi has stated many times in the manga, then he is dead.

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the 4th hokage is dead and Naruto's mother is dead

He's dead.

Get over it.

Topic over.

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Since the Kyuubi's chakra was split into good an evil pretty much, and Naruto got the good side, could it be that the leader of Akatsuki has the evil side, seeing how his eyes don't differ much from those the Kyuubi inside Naruto. So is there a chance the leader or Akatsuki is related to Naruto in a way or even the fourth hokage himself having lost his soul and being filled with the Kyuubi powers. It is quite possible that he gave his son the power of good in order to fight the other half, and believing in his future son is what caused him to use his own child. The resemblance between the three: The 4th, Naruto, and The leader of Akatsuji is undeniable. With the last few chapter and this knowledge of the split in the Kyubbi powers, it seems likely that the 2 strong powers, Naruto and the leader, good and bad, who also share traits with one another except for the cynical eyes the Akatsuki Leader has which match those of the Kyuubi, are somehow connected to each other in the past.

I am pretty sure his is dead. It seems to be a literary play on reincarnation. The fourth dies, naruto lives, but keeps some of the fourth's atributes alive. The writer uses the death to both add depth to narutos back ground and to give him a focus for the future.
he must pay a debt of sorts by becoming just as strong and gaining the title of hokage for himself.

I could see the fourth coming back in a "ghost," form, aka in a dream, or by a ressurection jutsu. However he wont be a long term additon to the story.

No, pretty sure that the good is Naruto's huge amt of Blue Chakra and the Bad is the Fox behind the gates inside Naruto and gives him the red chakra.

I could be wrong doh. That's a cool theory you came up with.

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Yeah in Chapter 370, they say that only the Light was sealed in Naruto, so the Dark had to go somewhere... the 4th maybe, or the Akatsuki's leader, possibly the same person and that why the Akatsuki's leader is so ruthless, and destroys everything like he did to Salamander Hanzou, and all his connections, much like the Kyuubi, which would destroy whole village like nothing.

Oh, when I read it, I took it to mean that Naruto was given access to the good chakra and the bad chakra was sealed up inside and he would not have access to it. Whenever he talks to the fox inside him, the Fox doesn't seem like a very good guy.

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Of course the fox isn't good. He's a monster. He tried to destroy the village. Plus, he's just a steaming mass of chakra with form, not really an entity with a soul anyways.

We don't know enough about Akasuki's leader to speculate. But it's possible. Maybe Naruto had a twin brother... who knows?

well the thing is, none of the official naruto pages says the 4th is dead or died


they leave speculation, therefore, you can't come up with a conclusion

when you look at the 4th's bio on naruto official pages, it doesnt say decease, neither on wikipedia


look at the 3rds, the 2nd, and 1st it all says deceased

therefore there is no answer, cuz nobody knows, he hasn't even been mentioned dead, especially since his SOUL is still alive no matter what method he used

like i said

speculate on why Grandma Chiyo isnt dead even tho she sealed the demon inside Gaara

if you're going to speculate that naruto has a twin, i would like to say that maybe Pein is Naruto's twin. they certainly look alike, right? minus all the piercings and such.

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okay i have this to say about grandma chiyo she did not seal the demon inside gaara but merely transferred an already sealed demon into gaara. secondly that tidbit about the official site thank you i didn't know that. thirdly the yin and yang of the nine-tails was sealed in naruto as well as his 'key' not pain since jiriaya had access to the key and even loosen its seal a little causing naruto to get a fourth tail(would like to see the one tail verse naruto in the fourth tail state). next the huge amount of naruto's blue chakra is his natural chakra since naruto initially only contained the kyuubi's passive chakra(not good and evil but passive and aggressive) while his 'key' contained the aggressive chakra. whether naruto and pain related is up for debate and speculation. back to orichimaru's summoning, yes the third one was the 4th hokage and since orichimaru's summoning summons the soul into a vessel that was the sacrifice(s), should the 4th be sealed in naruto or the reaper the justu would summon the 4th through the seal. my point was that the kyuubi's sealing was a unique occurrence with unknown consequences. and the point that the two enemies would fight it out for all eternity was one of my main points for this theory. also since the kyuubi's chakra was split into passive and aggressive it would explain why we have of yet not seen the 4th since though the kyuubi is pure evil the part in naruto is passive. also the 4th would be as alive as the kyuubi not a physical being but a spiritual one sealed in a container or two as this case may be.

now whether there is any meaning in naruto losing control in the fourth tail state and its connection to the 4th or not(i.e. metaphor or foreshadowing) is another interest question?

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the typical two guys one girl team?? ( the 4th / pain / konan)