Thats the thing, if you don't like it, even if almost everything your eyes can see is yaoi, you dont have to read it cause no one is forcing you to, right?
Good thing is that most groups that do translate that genre are (apparently) dedicated to said theme, so it's just a matter of ignoring certaing groups releases.
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I dont know its better than not have anything translated. o-o I mean, most of the scanlation are free.

I'd rather see 1 good release per week than see groups wasting their time with series they know are shitty. At this rate, I'm not even seeing 1 good release per week. The good mangas usually come out monthly, or not at all.

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I'd rather see 1 good release per week than see groups wasting their time with series they know are shitty

The problem, my friend, it's that it's not shitty to dem

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I'd rather see 1 good release per week than see groups wasting their time with series they know are shitty

The problem, my friend, it's that it's not shitty to dem

Au contraire, I've seen groups open and close because of this. Most groups will admit (when they're done) that series they translated were shitty wastes of time.

For real?, thats good to know...
Well lets just hope that they grow tired of .that. genre

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i'm memorizing the groups that release yaoi and filter them when i look at the releases page.

You do know that you can filter the yaoi genre itself from your control panel, right? That way you don't have to keep a mental blacklist. It's a lot easier.

The only thing that the op mentions that really bothers me is the 5-6 different groups all working on the same series. That's just a major waste of resources, to me. Plenty of groups with a more varied catalogue are always looking for more manpower. 😐

I do it mentally because..

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I turned on the filter for yaoi/shonen-ai and the manga available is still pretty gay.

that is true.

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i'm memorizing the groups that release yaoi and filter them when i look at the releases page.

You do know that you can filter the yaoi genre itself from your control panel, right? That way you don't have to keep a mental blacklist. It's a lot easier.

The only thing that the op mentions that really bothers me is the 5-6 different groups all working on the same series. That's just a major waste of resources, to me. Plenty of groups with a more varied catalogue are always looking for more manpower. 😐

Bleach has 4 active scanslators.
Naruto has 4-6.
One Piece has 6.

Though, some of the groups do overlap.

The main culprits seem to be the Yaoi genre....

I guessing they're mostly young girls or pansy guys who are fanatical about the stuff they like.... so I doubt we can take anything away from them.... but this fanaticism goes overboard in some cases.... try clicking on one of the fag titles and you'll mostly see ratings of 9 or 10 for all of em (most of these are probably from members of the groups themselves, I'm guessing). It scares my to think one day all the top manga based on ratings would end up being yaoi titles.

It also bother me that there's almost an equal amount of fag-manga being translated as straight-manga.... but people are free to do what they want on the internet (mostly) and it would be wrong for us to deny them, as much as we'd like to.

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Seriously... Why complain? As others have said, scanlating is free, right? It's a volunteer service. So if you can't find the time to scanlate the series of you want, then frankly, that's not the problem of other people who're scanlating the series they want to read. To complain about that would be kind of like complaining about why there's salmon on the fish market, when you actually prefer tuna. (And I just realized that I've left the way open for far too many fish jokes, of both the puerile and non-puerile varieties, but I hope that we're all mature enough to - oh, who gives a frak? Carry on...)

Interestingly enough, I've also noted an upsurge of hentai manga - not to my taste at all! But still, I don't complain about it; hentai obviously has a market, and people are working hard (no pun intended) to scanlate it, so that's okay. I just filter out the stuff that doesn't suit me, and read the stuff that does - but I certainly don't criticize other people for working sincerely on something! Even if it's something I don't like. To quote Voltaire: "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."

So yes, I do defend your right to complain as well, but I'm just pointing out that it's self-contradictory to complain about a situation that you yourself have the power to change. Sure, feel free to complain about it - but if you can spare the time, help out in scanlating your favorite series. (Which happen to be some of mine, too, by the way! I'm a HUGE fan of "Berserk.") If you don't have the skills, then perhaps the funds? (As in, buying raw manga for scanlation groups.) Or the time? (Scanning by itself doesn't need special skills, just time.) But if you lack time as well, then why not bide your time until you have some to spare, and then help out in any way that you can? Complaining to the very people who're scanlating or have the potential to scanlate your favorite manga won't work at all; instead, try sending them appreciation, and letting them know that you're grateful for them making the time to scanlate any of your favorite series at all. If they've got other projects that you don't like, why not encourage them to do the projects that you do like, instead of discouraging them from doing the projects that you don't? Honey rather than vinegar, if you know what I mean... 🙂

Yes, there is a boom in gay-themed scanlations - but there's also a boom in hentai and ecchi, which it is rather unfair not to remark upon, if one is remarking upon booms in general. I do completely agree with you that the working of several groups on one project seems like a waste of time, but then again, it's their choice to work on whatever they like. I respect their choices. Since I'm grateful enough to get any of the stuff that does get released, I figure that I shouldn't complain! (Unless I manage to find enough time to actually participate in scanlating, at which point I might feel comfortable discussing the negative points of a scanlation project's status - at least I'll be able to change it, then.)

Obviously, I'm biased, too. I'm bisexual, so I find it odd when people complain about two guys falling in love in a manga, but would prefer to read about them killing each other. Not that I don't like reading violent manga - I enjoy a bit of relaxing fictional carnage as much as the next person - but I wouldn't say that non-violent manga is generally worse than violent manga from either an aesthetic or a moral standpoint. Most yaoi is focused more on (admittedly predictable) gay romances than it is on, say, serial killers or genocides or alien invasions. And I do occasionally like those themes, but I don't think that they're better than romance! They're all just different forms of entertainment; I, for one, think it's healthy that there are comic books out there with non-violent content as well, even if it's sometimes silly and predictable. It doesn't hurt to play the occasional shoot-'em-up video game or read "MPD Psycho," but it's also good to know that there are people out there interested in drawing and reading about people falling in love. (In a lot of shoujo as well - not just yaoi and yuri!)

As for the yaoi/yuri/shoujo/shounen stories that focus on the darker aspects of sexual behavior - rape or abuse - they fit into the violent categories as well, so there's certainly an overlap between "violent" and "non-violent" genres. It's difficult to make generalizations, isn't it? No matter which point we start of from... Basically, a gay story shouldn't be called thematically worse than a non-gay one, or undesirable solely for its being gay. If it's a matter of preference to not read gay stuff, then that's okay - but to imply that it's worse? Therein lies my beef. (Damn it, punned again...) It's sort of like a straight friend of mine saying, even jokingly, that gay people are worse than straight ones; I won't let him/her get away with it, even if they're my pals. Sure, I'm not asking that they actually read gay books or watch gay movies, but come on - do they have to say that it's bad? Or to complain about the fact that such things exist? That's denigrating to those people that do identify as gay, or even the straight ones who have gay family members and friends, or even those people who just enjoy this stuff, regardless of its theme.

So, yeah. Even if they're pals. I'll support anyone's right to make such prejudiced "criticisms," but I'll definitely call them on it.

Sure, there's a lot of crap in the yaoi genre that I have to do my best to avoid, but there's bad manga in all genres, and it has little to do with the sexual preferences of the protagonists. I base my reading on the quality of the mangaka's work, rather than something as arbitrary as who's shagging whom. 😀

Of course, we all have the right to read what we like and not read what we don't; however, I also reserve my right to point out plain old homophobia when I see it. No hard feelings, honestly. (And when can I stop making unintended puns? Jeez...)

With all honorable salutations, and apologies for such an overlong reply,

Atlanta

P.S. I happen to think that "Berserk" is pretty gay, too. That's actually one of the reasons I love it... Perhaps it's a case of all appearing yellow to the jaundiced eye, but damn, Guts and Griffith sure have some flaming hot UST, huh?

P.P.S. Although I'd take Casca any day, hands-down. She was, well and truly, my first manga crush...

Read manga with the following themes...
Politics
Power Couples
Pure Subtext

I have yaoi manga filtered out, so I don't see it therefore I don't give a fuck how much of it is been pumped out. If anything I say congrats for being organised community and getting a lot done. What is a lot more annoying to me is where there is 6-7 groups are scanlating the more popular mangas Naruto/Bleach.

Um...

Don't read/bother with the manga you don't like?

Or.

Purchase manga you enjoy?

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I was merely commenting on a pattern I've noticed, this is a discussion forum about manga (mostly scanslated), and I had something to say about it.

As for people targeting the yaoi, I haven't only said something about, I also commented on the release of those crappy cookie cutter manga which are just like every other one of the genre, like all these harem/ecchi manga which usually involve a childhood friend with a crush and like 12 other disinterested girls, maybe 1 or 2 of which will actually like the character. I was commenting on the scanslation scene as a whole. For every 1 good series with regular translation, there are 20 bad ones, sure this may be an opinion, but I think we can all agree that there's something to what I'm saying.

Also, to say that you can't complain or comment because something is free is childish, anyone should be open to constructive criticism.

People are paying for these yaoi scanslations? The hell? Damn 14 year old girls with money.

Constructive criticism, right?

Ok then, I suggest you learn to respect other people's tastes, and acknowledge that crappy manga has a very large niche.

There are so many cookie cutter harem mangas because that is what works, and has always has worked (Really, it's NOT a new thing at all).

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People are paying for these yaoi scanslations? The hell? Damn 14 year old girls with money.

Constructive criticism, right?

Ok then, I suggest you learn to respect other people's tastes, and acknowledge that crappy manga has a very large niche.

There are so many cookie cutter harem mangas because that is what works, and has always has worked (Really, it's NOT a new thing at all).

Exactly.

Manga is a business. The publishers publish what sells, and the scanlators (whilst breaking the law) cater to demand.

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