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17 years ago
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Justify is a bad word, more like understanding why some people become like that.

Heh, Killers and Murderers won't disappear just because society says so, you should try to understand WTF is in their minds, so you can act before anything regrettable happens, I mean Killers are not born (most of them) They evolve (like pokemon), If you can understand them, then maybe, just maybe, you can give them an Everstone and stop their evolution (sorry saw my little bro playing that shit and the memories keep coming like there is no tomorrow)

Is easy to label what is good or bad, by your own standards, but you don't know anything about what the others are suffering, yet you dare to judge them like you are any better than them, Life is a bitch, some understand that and live with it, and others just get hit way too much and snap 😔

There are others that are plainly INSANE, but that is a whole other level of the scale.


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I find believing in a balance between good and evil quite idealistic too. I can only make up assumptions about the origin of good and evil, but I think that they are concepts that have their roots in religion. Moral and ethic can be viewed as a secularized form of religion too.

If you are talking about right and wrong, then it's left for each person to decide, and I don't know if you can find balance in that. Of course there should be some kind of order in society, if you mean balance in that way I agree it should be that way, but I don't think it has something to do with good and evil.


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Post #202876 - Reply To (#202874) by Chaoswind
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Quote from Chaoswind

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Justify is a bad word, more like understanding why some people become like that.

Heh, Killers and Murderers won't disappear just because society says so, you should try to understand WTF is in their minds, so you can act before anything regrettable happens, I mean Killers are not born (most of them) They evolve (like pokemon), If you can understand them, then maybe, just maybe, you can give them an Everstone and stop their evolution (sorry saw my little bro playing that shit and the memories keep coming like there is no tomorrow)

Is easy to label what is good or bad, by your own standards, but you don't know anything about what the others are suffering, yet you dare to judge them like you are any better than them, Life is a bitch, some understand that and live with it, and others just get hit way too much and snap 😔

There are others that are plainly INSANE, but that is a whole other level of the scale.

🙄 @ 'understanding'

Come on now, dude. What you were explaining were people who have a predilection for violence, which you then contradict.


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Quote from Chaoswind

_>

Justify is a bad word, more like understanding why some people become like that.

Heh, Killers and Murderers won't disappear just because society says so, you should try to understand WTF is in their minds, so you can act before anything regrettable happens, I mean Killers are not born (most of them) They evolve (like pokemon), If you can understand them, then maybe, just maybe, you can give them an Everstone and stop their evolution (sorry saw my little bro playing that shit and the memories keep coming like there is no tomorrow)

Is easy to label what is good or bad, by your own standards, but you don't know anything about what the others are suffering, yet you dare to judge them like you are any better than them, Life is a bitch, some understand that and live with it, and others just get hit way too much and snap 😔

There are others that are plainly INSANE, but that is a whole other level of the scale.

I want to personally applaud you for making Sociopaths a metaphor for Pokemon.

I havn't laughed so well in awhile.

Of course, the sheer absurdity of it makes me want to personal never consider any of your opinions valid in any form of discussion or debate, however, thats just a side effect of the stupidty of the original metaphor.

Regardless of that, it still made me laugh, and I will applaud that.

/applauds

See? 😀


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Like I said, Chaotic

would you believe, that I try to understand criminals, yet always ask for the maximum punishment?

I am just like that, 3 people in one, each one of us with very different standards of what is right and wrong, and yet somehow we haven't killed anyone yet (Half kill while blinded by rage doesn't count)

Can Extreme Kindness, Extreme Meanness and Extreme Neutrality co exist?

So far so good, just use each in different situations and learn to mix a little 🙂

Lalalala <------ The Neutrality of I don't give a damn if you Judge me 🤨

PS: I do take pills, I do see a Psych, anything to be a shamed of? Nah


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Quote from Chaoswind

I mean Killers are not born (most of them) They evolve (like pokemon)

LMAO! You sir, are a nut!

I see

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I find believing in a balance between good and evil quite idealistic too. I can only make up assumptions about the origin of good and evil, but I think that they are concepts that have their roots in religion. Moral and ethic can be viewed as a secularized form of religion too.

If you are talking about right and wrong, then it's left for each person to decide, and I don't know if you can find balance in that. Of course there should be some kind of order in society, if you mean balance in that way I agree it should be that way, but I don't think it has something to do with good and evil.

Well ethics are in place for the good of society. They keep us from doing anything that cause harm to ourselves and/or some else, as well as keep the infrastructure of society in tact.

Now is this society worth living in and protecting? Is the society we live in wrong?


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Quote from Chaoswind

Like I said, Chaotic

would you believe, that I try to understand criminals, yet always ask for the maximum punishment?

I am just like that, 3 people in one, each one of us with very different standards of what is right and wrong, and yet somehow we haven't killed anyone yet (Half kill while blinded by rage doesn't count)

Can Extreme Kindness, Extreme Meanness and Extreme Neutrality co exist?

So far so good, just use each in different situations and learn to mix a little 🙂

Lalalala <------ The Neutrality of I don't give a damn if you Judge me 🤨

PS: I do take pills, I do see a Psych, anything to be a shamed of? Nah

Please use logic before you post next time, and plan your statement out to some degree. I have a feeling that you'd be able to make a valid point if you were able to express yourself better.


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Quote from ahoaho

Please use logic before you post next time, and plan your statement out to some degree. I have a feeling that you'd be able to make a valid point if you were able to express yourself better.

Come on, we already established that the man or woman is a nut.

Back on topic.

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Ethics are in place for the good of society. They keep us from doing anything that cause harm to ourselves and/or some else, as well as keep the infrastructure of society in tact.

Now is this society worth living in and protecting? Is the society we live in wrong?


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That is the main problem, you see after 12:00 am, (like a clock... ask My friends) I stop to think rationally (most of the time) and Chaos (crap) takes complete control of what I am trying to say, (metaphors that have nothing to do with the topic and stuff like that) and I always end failing to deliver the message.

Maybe I should stop for today and try to get everything in order for tomorrow? yeah that is probably the best

However, I did mean what I said... most of (just the wrong words "probably") so lets see what I can do for tomorrow 😳


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I believe that good and evil exist, but good has a much stronger hold in reality. There is no balance. Evil must either hide in the background of society, hiding from possible retribution, or become so great as to push all competitive evils to the side, thereby reducing its own size by its selfish nature, and becoming again outnumbered by good, and watched closely. After all, people support good, by its very nature, and oppose evil, by its very nature. That's not to say evil is present, but it is not as prevalent as some people like to make it out to be.


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almost every person is good and evil (maybe not evil but bad) on daily basis...you mixed it all together and you get a sea of gray...

i don't really believe in this balance of good and evil...don't think world would fall in chaos if good prevailed...(well maybe some would get sick from all the goodie-goodie persons)

it all depends on a mood, persons interacted with, number of people ones actions reflect on...

and it would be nice to think that intelligence and knowledge make one impossible to do evil...because he knows its wrong (some philosopher said it)

to bible bashing persons...bible is a series of stories and allegories that had a lot of influence in shaping today's morality...do not take it literally or to serious, it was written thousands of years ago afterall...also try reading something first before you swarm with your opinions.


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Good and evil only exist in our minds.
Killing isn't evil, it is vital for you to proceed
and reach your goals. We have good and evil
due to our morals.


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Quote from Mamsmilk

Good and evil only exist in our minds.
Killing isn't evil, it is vital for you to proceed
and reach your goals.
We have good and evil
due to our morals.

Could you elaborate?


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Post #202964 - Reply To (#202963) by kuraruka
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Quote from Mamsmilk

Good and evil only exist in our minds.
Killing isn't evil, it is vital for you to proceed
and reach your goals.
We have good and evil
due to our morals.

Could you elaborate?

Just saying that killing does have got some goal
which most likely is good to yourself.


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Quote from Mamsmilk

Good and evil only exist in our minds.
Killing isn't evil, it is vital for you to proceed
and reach your goals. We have good and evil
due to our morals.

I agree with you that good and evil exists in our minds. With knowledge, we give value to actions and thus dub them good or evil, therefore it only exists in human society.

Killing isn't wrong, but killing another human being is wrong.


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