if you call that subjective then I have no idea what you would call objective

it is weird, not the whole thing around it but the "death" itself

Kishi did screw a few things up, it's not about thinking like him,you can see that in the new characters,he doesn't has such good ideas like he had in the past so he makes boring characters or fights when he has to buy some time to come up with a good chapter

it can't be only cells,there has to be at least a bit of a soul so it can spread(which it does)
btw guess that's another matter of translation,like the stuff with Tobi/Madara

the Hokage IS the strongest shinobi, that was the only reason Naruto wanted to become Hokage,so they would recognize him as a great shinobi.it was said,if you don't remember it read or watch again

then you should have said you talked about interactions,if you say something is realistic it means the plot/world/whatever is realistic but not exactly the interactions.if we were to talk about interactions then yes,Naruto is realistic in that matter

to your PS, of course you can't say for sure but if it wasn't realistic 'till now then there's a low chance it will become realistic at all(because it looks like it's SLOWLY nearing the end)

that's all I'll say to this matter because you obviously won't say that someone else then you could be right 😁

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Subjective= Own opinion.
Objective= Fact or in this context, shove away your own opinion.

I'm only saying Jiraiya deserves a better end because everyone who died 'till now had a better end.even Zabuza!

Subjective.

When he comes back to life through determination, that just reinforces Kishi's point of that a 'true' ninja has the guts to never give up. He used all his strength to deliver the 'information' (Pain's true identity) to Pa Frog, and now he could rest in peace. Since that information will be vital to the defeat of Pain.

Objective.

I liked Jiraiya, but therefore I'm not going to pray that he's going to live, etc. And 'deserving' depends on the persons' view.

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if you call that subjective then I have no idea what you would call objective...
Kishi did screw a few things up, it's not about thinking like him,you can see that in the new characters,he doesn't has such good ideas like he had in the past so he makes boring characters or fights when he has to buy some time to come up with a good chapter
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Thats subjective.

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the Hokage IS the strongest shinobi, that was the only reason Naruto wanted to become Hokage,so they would recognize him as a great shinobi.it was said,if you don't remember it read or watch again
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When they use the word strong in a shounen many people thinks it's just one way of power. It's perhaps true in DB but not in Naruto.

Here are some early jotting 'bout kages.
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Naruto recognize the kage as the strongest in chapter 1, but he said basically they are the strongest. Any 12 yearold would probably believe noone could defeat a kage. When it comes to leadership abileties the kage have to be the "strongest". One of those abileties is to sacrifice yourself for the village. Considering that ability only, Konohamaru is suited more as a hokage then Oro.
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being the strongest doesn´t necesarily mean being the most powerful, being a kage doesn´t mean you are the most powerful shinobi in your village, jiraiya was (sorry, but he will die) strong enough, but he understood he wasn´t the right person, orochimaru was strong enough but didn´t fit the requeriments in sarutobi´s opinion so he tried to destroy konoha (taking it by force what he couldn´t gain by merits) Danzou is still trying to do the same.
well, that is just my opinion 😃

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I liked Jiraiya, but therefore I'm not going to pray that he's going to live, etc. And 'deserving' depends on the persons' view.
I'm done discussing.. ;; You're no fun. 😛

I never said I'm going to pray for something 😉
however I can agree that a deserving end propably depends on the reader.Most likely there are more opinions then our two
I actually was done with this disscusion already but guess this one last post is okay to end it somehow 🤣

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if you want a manga where main characters dont die or gives you fake deaths go read bleach but in this case Dr. Love is right he said his good bye hes dead
and its about time to
@Dr. Love
"P.S.: You can never be sure about the future." so then why cant someone else die in the near future mainly kakashi
@dirkbogardeonaproxy
i dont think thats what he was getting at i think that he was just trying to give an example that konoha is still not safe the fact that he used root is suprising although i highly doubt root would work with akatsuki seeing as how they never had any intention of working with orochimaru

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Meh, Kakashi could die, in my opinion.. But only if Tobi is using Obito's body or if Tobi is Obito, I think..

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After reading everything posted, I agree that Jiraiya's dead. Why would he leave everything up to Naruto if he knew he could still fight? 😃 😃 😃

BTW, this may sound unrelated but doesn't Naruto's mom, Kushina, look like the genjutsu girl from episode 200+, Yakumo? 😲 🤢 😕

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After reading everything posted, I agree that Jiraiya's dead. Why would he leave everything up to Naruto if he knew he could still fight? 😃 😃 😃

BTW, this may sound unrelated but doesn't Naruto's mom, Kushina, look like the genjutsu girl from episode 200+, Yakumo? 😲 🤢 😕

A little bit.. 😛 Though Kushina doesn't look as white, and looks more mature.

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this might be a dumb question but how do you know she not that white ive only seen her in black and white

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this might be a dumb question but how do you know she not that white ive only seen her in black and white

I don't know.. _ But if she does look white, then yeah she pretty much looks like Yakumo...

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After reading everything posted, I agree that Jiraiya's dead. Why would he leave everything up to Naruto if he knew he could still fight? 😃 😃 😃

now now,nobody said he would still fight 😉

I don't remember Yakumo and have no interest in searching for her so that question I can't answer 😛

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Jiraya is Dead. Mabye not yet but he certainly won't survive that "goodbye chapter". Yakumo or whatever was just an anime filler character.

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