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17 years ago
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Im a liberal (Democrat)...

referring to the low voting numbers... Im excited! this year a lot of people will be agitated in the United States to vote due to agitation with the current president Bush and his horrble handling of the war etc. Ill be extremely happy when hes out of office! whoever becomes president will have to deal with the how we exit Iraq, the deficity caused by this administration (after a surplus!!), etc....

are there any other dems who voted for the party nominees?? who did you vote for?? Im supporting Barack Obama!! I wonder when Hillary is going to leave the race... its impossinle for her to win now unless all the superdelegates suddenly voted for her which would be completely undemocratic in my point of view!


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^I don't like socialists. I'm a registered independent though, so I don't get a say in the nominations.

I would take McCain over those two socialists any day.


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My mother also supports Obama and for a while she was joking that if Obama wasnt nominated she would go for McCain since she hates Hillary so much... its hilarious though because of her age and gender she is in Hillary's targeted constituents...
what state do you live in?? i believe some states allow independents to vote for nominations, right??... 😀


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California. My state doesn't allow it.


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im from a small state on the opposite coast!! Maryland! we only get 10 electoral votes 😢


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im from a small state on the opposite coast!! Maryland! we only get 10 electoral votes 😢

It's alright. All of our electoral votes will go to your candidate.

Nothing will really change until we get a new legislature though.


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im from a small state on the opposite coast!! Maryland! we only get 10 electoral votes 😢

i know it's sad 😢

p.s. i live in Maryland too


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really??thats surprising!! i wasnt expecting it would be easy to meet someone from our state lol
which nominee did you vote for??


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I identify myself as a Democrat and a supporter of Barack Obama. I'm all for change and a fresh standpoint. No offense to Bush supporters and Republicans, but his proposal for the oil crisis to make Saudi Arabia make more was rather unintelligent and uninspiring to me.


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No offense to Bush supporters and Republicans, but his proposal for the oil crisis to make Saudi Arabia make more was rather unintelligent and uninspiring to me.

Elaborate please, I don't comprehend this statement.


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democrat

obviously obama is gonna win the democratic nomination, but i think the real reason why clinton is still clinging so desperately to the campaign is that she has the ambition to run for president again in the next term...she has been saying a lot about how she will fight 'til the end, and that americans deserve a candidate with determination and will-power, etc...i believe mccain is going to win over obama, even though i'd prefer obama over mccain...i think that clinton doesn't care who'd win in the election, and she doesn't think that person would be able to solve all the problems the US is facing right now and last for a 2nd term...that's why she's building her image as a person who didn't give up even 'til the end for this year's campaign even though she knows she has no chance of winning this year...she's just going to bid her time and wait 'til the next presidential election to come out as the democrat nominee and use the fact that she didn't give up on this year campaign in order to win over voters....

that is my opinion on clinton's plan...i think it's rather irresponsible of her to do that knowing it will lessen the support for the democrat party in this year's election, but i think that in the long run, she'd be the one who have the advantage for her next presidential campaign....


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Personally, I think that the Democratic nomination will go to Obama this time around. But Clinton may run again, and dropping out early won't leave a good image for her. And in politics, image is everything.

Just to clarify things up with the socialism discussion earlier...

Socialism = what Americans would call communism. Basically government that commands a centrally planned economy. It's been proven that it's not very effective in large countries already.


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I'm in the middle, to a point; borderline Libertarian.

I am socially liberal. I don't care who you sleep with, what gender they are, etc. I don't care what God or gods you do or don't believe in. You are, after all, your own individual.

I am fiscally conservative. I will not let my taxes support you because you are less capable than me. I have no obligation to you. I will not bend myself to you because you are a minority; I will only bend myself to you if you are better than me. As an equal, you have had every opportunity that I have, and if you have squandered them, I have not, and you should be punished, and I should be rewarded--I should not be punished to spend my own money in substitution for the reward you did not earn. I do not like social programs.

That is not to say that I do not support charities; not only do I give away money often enough, but I give away more than I can afford to too often. That said, I believe that it is my right to decide whether or not to give. When somebody decides for me, my actions lose all meaning, and I am another face in the crowd, not an individual--not myself.

A secondary response to the OP: The Democrats do not care for the little man. To the Democrats, the little man does not exist--all they see is one large entity. It is this large entity--the general populace--that they care about; a little man is insignificant because by their own wit he is exactly the same as everybody else; however little work he does he gets the same income and same care and same treatment as everybody else. The Republicans could also be said to not care for the little man, because their focus is on the general populace as well; however, they do acknowledge his existence by letting him have what he has earned.

I care for the little man, because I care for myself, and I'm fairly sure that I'm a little man.

Safe to say that I hate all political candidates equally. They only ever agree with half of my ideas, each party supporting a different half.


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I will not let my taxes support you because you are less capable than me. I have no obligation to you. I will not bend myself to you because you are a minority; I will only bend myself to you if you are better than me. As an equal, you have had every opportunity that I have, and if you have squandered them, I have not, and you should be punished, and I should be rewarded--I should not be punished to spend my own money in substitution for the reward you did not earn. I do not like social programs.

I would have absolutely agreed with this part, if everyone got equal opportunities/chances. Not everyone has the privilege to have an education, let alone buy some food. And not because they've squandered their chances or something. But because they were born poor (or just have been plain scammed) and it's really hard to get out of that vicious cycle. Yes, you might pay more taxes, but in return you get an highly secure safety net.

And you can also take measures to those who would want to profit from that safety net.


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I will not let my taxes support you because you are less capable than me. I have no obligation to you. I will not bend myself to you because you are a minority; I will only bend myself to you if you are better than me. As an equal, you have had every opportunity that I have, and if you have squandered them, I have not, and you should be punished, and I should be rewarded--I should not be punished to spend my own money in substitution for the reward you did not earn. I do not like social programs.

I would have absolutely agreed with this part, if everyone got equal opportunities/chances. Not everyone has the privilege to have an education, let alone buy some food. And not because they've squandered their chances or something. But because they were born poor (or just have been plain scammed) and it's really hard to get out of that vicious cycle. Yes, you might pay more taxes, but in return you get an highly secure safety net.

And you can also take measures to those who would want to profit from that safety net.

Safety net? This is the real world. If you don't work, you don't eat. Period, end of discussion.


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