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Sweden has higher nominal GDP per capita than the US. And don't forget that GDP does not equal welthfare in the western world. You probably checked the PPP GDP on both contries on wikipedia or something like that.

Fair enough, but I actually checked on the U.N. website

Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) often fails imo because it can't be be calculated as precise as the nominal GDP. In my opinion Sweden, Scandinavia and the EU is indeed "better" than the U.S when it comes to "welthfare".
When i say welthfare i don't really mean how much money you can have, but instead i see wealthfare as a security that you have the right to get healthcare, education and onwards.

That is fine for those who want to support those who cannot support themselves. But there are so many who WILL not support themselves that it renders the entire system defunct.

I don't care that the U.S has alot of millionares and stuff, your GDP per capita is only presented by a small percentage of your population.

The largest demographic in the United States is the working middle class.

And as mentioned earlier a "county" (kommun in Swedish) called Södertälje that has a area of 9.8 sq mi (25.29 km²) has taken in more refugees that your country has done.

Maybe thats because we have been taking in millions of refugees from South East Asia and Africa for the last 30 years. Or the fact that we have more than 20 million illegal immigrants in our country. It's a lot easier to take in people when you don't already have more than 300 million people in your country.

I know that your so called leaders are quite ashamed of this but they only sit on their fat texas bums eating BBQ instead of doing anything! For crying out loud you took the "most proven cource of action" and we have to take the consequenses. If you honestly think that the U.S is indeed blessed by "god" (The American way to say "better then the world") then look around and find the real world.

Ah, yes, another America hater. So many misconceptions have been made in that last statement that it's not even worth reply.

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I'm going with my philosophy teachers response since its what I agree with. I'm nothing. I have my own individual views/beliefs/ideas and I refuse to be grouped with any political standing.

Too many people complain about others being republicans, democrats, liberals, etc. That it no longer reprsents what it originally meant, it's just a way for adults to name-call.

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That is fine for those who want to support those who cannot support themselves. But there are so many who WILL not support themselves that it renders the entire system defunct.

I don't care that the U.S has alot of millionares and stuff, your GDP per capita is only presented by a small percentage of your population.

The largest demographic in the United States is the working middle class.

Doesn't mean anything though~ The 10% richest of a country usually have the same amount, if not double the amount of the whole middle class together. And we're only counting the 10% richest, let alone the 20, or 30% richest of the country. o.o

The middle class usually belong to 2-4, if 1 is poor and 9 rich, and 10 astronomically rich who are the 10% richest that I was referring to~

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I'm going with my philosophy teachers response since its what I agree with. I'm nothing. I have my own individual views/beliefs/ideas and I refuse to be grouped with any political standing.

Too many people complain about others being republicans, democrats, liberals, etc. That it no longer reprsents what it originally meant, it's just a way for adults to name-call.

I agree, I hate it when people call me up for not voting with lines like 'women died to give you the vote' well show me a cadidate worth voting for and I will. My beliefs don't fit with any group and I refuse to choose just because society demands it of me when I don't agree with anything current politicians stand for. Politics has just become another way to seperate 'us and them' like religion. People have forgotten what it's meant to be about.

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I'm going with my philosophy teachers response since its what I agree with. I'm nothing. I have my own individual views/beliefs/ideas and I refuse to be grouped with any political standing.

Too many people complain about others being republicans, democrats, liberals, etc. That it no longer reprsents what it originally meant, it's just a way for adults to name-call.

I agree, I hate it when people call me up for not voting with lines like 'women died to give you the vote' well show me a cadidate worth voting for and I will. My beliefs don't fit with any group and I refuse to choose just because society demands it of me when I don't agree with anything current politicians stand for. Politics has just become another way to seperate 'us and them' like religion. People have forgotten what it's meant to be about.

While I can identify to an extent, it should be noted that political parties are essentially developed for efficiency. An organized group is simply more likely to get a candidate elected than a single person, and naturally the larger the group the more powerful it will become. So it's not so much a matter of separation as a source of power and support for certain viewpoints.

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I'm going with my philosophy teachers response since its what I agree with. I'm nothing. I have my own individual views/beliefs/ideas and I refuse to be grouped with any political standing.

Too many people complain about others being republicans, democrats, liberals, etc. That it no longer reprsents what it originally meant, it's just a way for adults to name-call.

I agree, I hate it when people call me up for not voting with lines like 'women died to give you the vote' well show me a cadidate worth voting for and I will. My beliefs don't fit with any group and I refuse to choose just because society demands it of me when I don't agree with anything current politicians stand for. Politics has just become another way to seperate 'us and them' like religion. People have forgotten what it's meant to be about.

While I can identify to an extent, it should be noted that political parties are essentially developed for efficiency. An organized group is simply more likely to get a candidate elected than a single person, and naturally the larger the group the more powerful it will become. So it's not so much a matter of separation as a source of power and support for certain viewpoints.

Im not really bashing the parties themselves as I understand what your saying. I'm more or less talking about how people go "Oh well you just think that cause your (so and so)".

I know why they have the parties, since democracy is a "The majority rules" type of government. But a lot of people no longer say "I'm a republican/democrat/liberal", they're more like what I just described.

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On that front, I agree with Haiyeth. That's why I'm registered independent.

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I tend towards the left. I figure a flexible policy is better than one that might be time-proven, but unchanging once the principles on which it is based are no longer applied.

That is to say, since humans evolve, a political system should be able to evolve along with its foundation, not vice-versa.

I'm pretty far right, especially considering the age group I fall into. I'm more conservative than my parents on many issues and they're pretty right-wing.

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Conservative is boring~ Doesn't that mean let's just keep the laws/rules as they are? Well, then women wouldn't be voting right now, would they? o.o

At least if it's ever-changing, you can draw comfort from the fact that it can change if you don't like the policy.

My statement I just said is all based on the theory/concept/idea that Conservatism=never-changing and Socialism=ever-changing.

Because I know that there'll probably be counter-arguments and such. o_o

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Conservative is boring~ Doesn't that mean let's just keep the laws/rules as they are? Well, then women wouldn't be voting right now, would they? o.o

At least if it's ever-changing, you can draw comfort from the fact that it can change if you don't like the policy.

My statement I just said is all based on the theory/concept/idea that Conservatism=never-changing and Socialism=ever-changing.

Because I know that there'll probably be counter-arguments and such. o_o

Well, if that is your definition of Conservatism then I am a flaming Liberal. My main thing is that government should have as little to do with everyday life as possible. In my country, that pertains directly to the federal government. My country is a Federal Republic, which means that it is made up of several different governing bodies and such. The chain of effect should be
Person->Family->Community->Municipality->State->Nation.

This preserves the rights of the people based on the demographic of which their municipality is comprised. California is VERY liberal. The major metropolitan areas are socialistic.

As far as me defining myself as an Independent Conservative, it doesn't mean that I want to keep things the way they are. It means I have mostly conservative values, but I am independent of the mainstream conservatism. I am mainly fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

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