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16 years ago
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Ok, a lot of titles shows us men's life with flowers, ruches, tears, household arts etc. So how about a primitive nature [img]http://s47.radikal.ru/i115/0904/92/bea1de0abde2.gif[/img] ?
What's your attitude towards BDSM (I'm making a low emphasis), fights between seme and uke and also violence beyond main relationship?
Manga titles won't be out of place~


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16 years ago
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You mean like forcing them into having sex?
With some roughness...
It's a guilty pleasure of mine...

Though it's not fun if it's plain 100% crappy rape.
Like that manga DP dropped...


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It depends on the story.

The abusive relationship in Biroudo no Tensoku is quite interesting... Though I don't want too much of this type in manga.

No Oshioki Gakuen for me. Bad art and bad story for a hentai. 🤢

OK, Love Prism can be read like hentai too but art is bad. 🤢

I am really sick of all the rape and forced sex and powerful seme in yaoi. There are a few titles that are alright. But most of this type is just crap to me. I think such plot devices are overused and overrated.


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Forcing into sex also fits. But I mostly mean fights (yeah. with blood).


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Like in an action manga? Are Midare Somenishi and Black Sun this type? I don't know as I haven't read much of or remembered them.


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Domestic violence?


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Domestic violence?

that too 😳


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I am sure we all have read a few incest+domestic violence (BDSM) yaoi, like Kaen's or Toujou Asami's. I don't like them. Not very entertaining. And they are not enough to be called hentai if one's looking for porn.


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Domestic violence?

that too 😳

Not my cup of tea.


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Biroudo no Tensoku

I've just read it. It reminds me of Escape (KYUUGOU), but harder.
Well, preferably if uke also has some guts. Like Dog Style, Let Dai, Rika, Endless World...


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Those are good stories.
Despite the violence, they are interesting to read.

It's just that, I wouldn't read a manga just for them.


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Those in Escape pissed me off much more. >:-(

Why does he tolerate being treated like a guy claiming not to be gay? And in the end the seme actually likes him? It looks like drama but doesn't make much sense. I hate authors writing this type of stories to show "love". Probably good for some girls' fantasy out of the need for love but not for me.


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Those in Escape pissed me off much more. >:-(

Why does he tolerate being treated like a guy claiming not to be gay? And in the end the seme actually likes him? It looks like drama but doesn't make much sense. I hate authors writing this type of stories to show "love". Probably good for some girls' fantasy out of the need for love but not for me.

This aspect was really screwed up...
But I kind of liked the story~
Especially since I can relate.

I've tolerated it before... For "love"...
Yeah, it'd idiotic of me, and of other people... But sometimes you can't just think straight.
Needless to say, I got over myself and dumped the guy.


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It doesn't give enough reason why the uke loves him so much. From the manga, I only know that they are f**k buddies because it's convenient. Nothing makes me believe there can be "love" that deep. That's why I think it's pointless. Smut just for the sake of being smut.

On the other hand, I think you have a point, Swan. Sometimes, women tolerate shit not because they think the other party loves them, but because they are needy and can imagine any crap as "love" (I mean their love for the other party therefore willing to sacrifice, dunno).

Do you like Cut? I think it's a much better remedy (though not the same situation) than something like Escape which you think you can relate to. They don't even mention the L word in Cut and the ending is open. That's why I like it.


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It's not much of a fantasy, but the variety of relations between people. Життя бентежне (life is restless), you know. And sometimes you can't even find a good reason to explain why you act in a particular way.
If it is a graphic novel it requires time to understand the whole situation (especially a oneshot). It is way easier in literature, where you're often given a description in words.


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