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CONTROL. In USA people are being controled and watched, even the computers are being checked when the borders are crossed. Also the Bobs mentioned "Patriot act". All those things clearly are not sign of democratic society. And that's way the big brother is watching you.

Ok.......and I said in desperate times, desperate measure must to taken to ensure the safety of the whole versus the right of individual. OMG, I hate sophist...

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CONTROL. In USA people are being controled and watched, even the computers are being checked when the borders are crossed. Also the Bobs mentioned "Patriot act". All those things clearly are not sign of democratic society. And that's way the big brother is watching you.

At least they didn't evoke Martial Law and suspend the Writ of Habeus Corpus on American Citizens.

And the Republic is in far more danger from an apathetic populous and a broken two party system than by the Patriot Act.

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And the Republic is in far more danger from an apathetic populous and a broken two party system than by the Patriot Act.

You know there is a theory that direct democracy will lead to dictatorship because the crowd will entrust the leader with power, that in the end will become available to people who missuse it. In this sence the patriot act is bigger threat, because in a lot of coutries people are not very active in politics, but democracy still works (kind of).
Although I would say your election system is bigger problem then the two party system. My country has many parties and it works right like after textbook - horribly. You should be happy about your two party system.

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And the Republic is in far more danger from an apathetic populous and a broken two party system than by the Patriot Act.

You know there is a theory that direct democracy will lead to dictatorship because the crowd will entrust the leader with power, that in the end will become available to people who missuse it. In this sence the patriot act is bigger threat, because in a lot of coutries people are not very active in politics, but democracy still works (kind of).
Although I would say your election system is bigger problem then the two party system. My country has many parties and it works right like after textbook - horribly. You should be happy about your two party system.

Why should I be content with anything the government does? There is so much collusion and lipservice between the two parties that at the end of the day, they are one in the same.

As far as the Patriot act being the largest problem threatening democracy in this country: that's just stupid. The way the country is currently set up, Congress has more power than the executive. And the Supreme Court could still deem the law unconstitutional, because Martial Law has not been declared.

There are also term limits.

The election process for the executive in this country is fair, because it doesn't use a popular vote. If it was based on a popular vote, the only states that would matter are New York, Pennsylvania, California, Texas, and Florida. The Electoral College protects less populous states.

Also, before you make claims on the US governmental system, I suggest you do some research.

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And the Republic is in far more danger from an apathetic populous and a broken two party system than by the Patriot Act.

You know there is a theory that direct democracy will lead to dictatorship because the crowd will entrust the leader with power, that in the end will become available to people who missuse it. In this sence the patriot act is bigger threat, because in a lot of coutries people are not very active in politics, but democracy still works (kind of).
Although I would say your election system is bigger problem then the two party system. My country has many parties and it works right like after textbook - horribly. You should be happy about your two party system.

Why should I be content with anything the government does? There is so much collusion and lipservice between the two parties that at the end of the day, they are one in the same.

As far as the Patriot act being the largest problem threatening democracy in this country: that's just stupid. The way the country is currently set up, Congress has more power than the executive. And the Supreme Court could still deem the law unconstitutional, because Martial Law has not been declared.

There are also term limits.

The election process for the executive in this country is fair, because it doesn't use a popular vote. If it was based on a popular vote, the only states that would matter are New York, Pennsylvania, California, Texas, and Florida. The Electoral College protects less populous states.

Also, before you make claims on the US governmental system, I suggest you do some research.

Sure I will research some more, like common I have only had 3 courses about the nature of a country, constitutional systems, and election mechanics.

1)If there would be martial law declared for like 4 years and the Writ of Habeus Corpus would be suspended, it wouldn't be treat to democracy because there wouldn't be any democracy.
2)So what that Congress has more power? You know in OTHER countries there is a thing called parlamentarian dictatorship, what it means practicaly is that it holds a huge power to influence one of the other two powers. So don't give me shit that your congress has more power.
3)So you think it's that people have no right to choose the president themselves?
4)There are other ways how to protect less populous states. Not only making some strange interregnum parts that are not directly responsible to their voters.

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I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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few facts...

there's about 100 ethnic groups in kavkaz, they can't all be happy...
after the WW1 with blessings from josif staljin soviet republic of georgia started forcefully assimilating osetian people...

after the perestroika and later in 1989. south osetia petitioned for making their region a autonomic republic under geogiai, this was not only rejected but there was a march led by led by some gamsakhurdia guy on capital of south osetia...conflict was resolved with coming of soviet special forces...

in 1990. georgia exits soviet union (gamsakhurdia guy was president) and in the same time republic of south osetia was declared (they even had a parlament) but 2 days later there was georgian military intervention in south osetia saying no no (funny thing how the same rules don't aplly for all)

anyways the conflict lasted until president shevarnadze (spelling 🙁 ) wasn't elected (he was good with jelcin and putin)...the peace corps that were stationed were combined of russian, georgian and osetian.

it was all nice until anti-russian, pro-west president saakashvilli wasn't elected...in the meantime (round 2006) 95% people from south osetia declared themselves russians, got russian citizenship and for the third time asked for mother russia to take them into her bosom (there were also 2 referendums)...so georgia intervenes again...and then russia.

how do i know this, i just talked to a neutral guy that worked in georgia.

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how do i know this, i just talked to a neutral guy that worked in georgia.

Finally!!... some insider info.... it concurs with a story I just saw on Al-Jazeera a few minutes ago..... CNN for the loss.

Thanx for sharing.... will keep this in mind when analyzing the other news stories.

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Funny vid of some American/Ossetians who were there during the start of the war. Fox were probably expecting something along the lines of fuck russia, well they didn't get that 🤣 🤣

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Finally!!... some insider info.... it concurs with a story I just saw on Al-Jazeera a few minutes ago..... CNN for the loss.

Al-Jazeera gets a fuck load of bad press but I find them one of the more balanced world news stations. imo they usually give a neutral stand point, you know how news used to be broadcast 😛 But I guess being neutral means you present the "Terrorists" side of the story which isn't appreciated by most people 🙁

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So basically the Russians weren't the instigators.(Phew!)

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So basically the Russians weren't the instigators.(Phew!)

wow.....you are super smart! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

What are they thinking anyway, going up against Russia. Russia is still a powerful nation.

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[quote]And the Republic is in far more danger from an apathetic populous and a broken two party system than by the Patriot Act.

You know there is a theory that direct democracy will lead to dictatorship because the crowd will entrust the leader with power, that in the end will become available to people who missuse it. In this sence the patriot act is bigger threat, because in a lot of coutries people are not very active in politics, but democracy still works (kind of).
Although I would say your election system is bigger problem then the two party system. My country has many parties and it works right like after textbook - horribly. You should be happy about your two party system.

Why should I be content with anything the government does? There is so much collusion and lipservice between the two parties that at the end of the day, they are one in the same.

As far as the Patriot act being the largest problem threatening democracy in this country: that's just stupid. The way the country is currently set up, Congress has more power than the executive. And the Supreme Court could still deem the law unconstitutional, because Martial Law has not been declared.

There are also term limits.

The election process for the executive in this country is fair, because it doesn't use a popular vote. If it was based on a popular vote, the only states that would matter are New York, Pennsylvania, California, Texas, and Florida. The Electoral College protects less populous states.

Also, before you make claims on the US governmental system, I suggest you do some research.

Sure I will research some more, like common I have only had 3 courses about the nature of a country, constitutional systems, and election mechanics.

1)If there would be martial law declared for like 4 years and the Writ of Habeus Corpus would be suspended, it wouldn't be treat to democracy because there wouldn't be any democracy.
2)So what that Congress has more power? You know in OTHER countries there is a thing called parlamentarian dictatorship, what it means practicaly is that it holds a huge power to influence one of the other two powers. So don't give me shit that your congress has more power.
3)So you think it's that people have no right to choose the president themselves?
4)There are other ways how to protect less populous states. Not only making some strange interregnum parts that are not directly responsible to their voters.[/quote]

1. I'm assuming English is not your first language.
2. Congress currently has more power because they control the financial aspects of the government. All legislation still must be signed by the Executive to go into effect and be approved by the Supreme Court to verify constitutionality. However, if Congress is too onesided, they can essentially override any action by these two branches. This is unlikely to happen due to stringent party loyalties and other various factors. The legislature does not have an enormous influence on the other two branches for various other reasons as well, such as lifetime appointment for judges and several other powers granted to the other branches. Try reading the Constitution sometime.
3. I did not say that. The Electoral College is in place to protect smaller states. In most states, Electoral votes are dealt based on the popular vote of that state.
4. You used Interregnum incorrectly. We don't have any colloquial instances of interregnum in this country thus far.

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Russia is very far from being Peaceful Big Brother. Georgia was stupid enough to fall in their trap (which was made due to natural resources that Georgia was starting to cut Russia from). Russia just found a place where they could find a crack and used it. Georgia responded and it all started.

Russia is an aggressor here. Luckily Lithuania do not have natural resources that Russia would care about or else you would soon see a crap that Zemaiciai decided to become completely sovereign from other lithiuanians and russians are going in to help poor them with their army. Killing and robbing citizens along the way... (I am zemaitis myself).

I can't believe how stupid some people can be to believe in that nonsnse that russia says...

Basically Russia do have their people in Sauth Osetia. The moods were anti western there though, but the real push still came from Russia. It is not like Ossetians become russian citizens so suddenly in one morning. Push was created by Russia and I am really shocked how people here cannot see it.

Well maybe thats because they live far away from russia and are not their neighbors as we are so they do not see how russia really is. It is far from being a good, kind and peaceful friend to all nations as it likes to play. Not under Putins rule (Medvedev is only a doll in Putin's hands).

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1. I'm assuming English is not your first language.

Nope it isn't.

2. Congress currently has more power because they control the financial aspects of the government. All legislation still must be signed by the Executive to go into effect and be approved by the Supreme Court to verify constitutionality. However, if Congress is too onesided, they can essentially override any action by these two branches. This is unlikely to happen due to stringent party loyalties and other various factors. The legislature does not have an enormous influence on the other two branches for various other reasons as well, such as lifetime appointment for judges and several other powers granted to the other branches. Try reading the Constitution sometime.

I don't really get what were you trying to say with this. In most of countries separation of power is like this. Most of the worlds parlementarian systems were modeled after this, although in USA the power separation is more defined.
Someday I surely will read the constitution of USA.

3. I did not say that. The Electoral College is in place to protect smaller states. In most states, Electoral votes are dealt based on the popular vote of that state.

Yeah exactly in MOST STATES, but not in all.

4. You used Interregnum incorrectly. We don't have any colloquial instances of interregnum in this country thus far.

Yeah now that I look up the word closer it really does have very different meaning from what my first dictionary showed up.

it was all nice until anti-russian, pro-west president saakashvilli wasn't elected...in the meantime (round 2006) 95% people from south osetia declared themselves russians, got russian citizenship and for the third time asked for mother russia to take them into her bosom (there were also 2 referendums)...so georgia intervenes again...and then russia.

Well considering that nothing was done to resolve the conflict in 10 years, it can't be really called nice. And it's not like the Osetians became russian citizens in one day.

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I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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