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I personally think this is an inappropriate topic. Asking people like they have been involved in drugs or not.....But hey, I'm not mods so what do I know. I don't touch any of those. I'm clean all my life and will remain clean. I don't need a freaking plant to make me feel good about myself. I KNOW I feel good. Pain and pleasure are two sides of the coin that I eagerly devour.

What a wonderful world we live in. Adults encouraging kids to do drugs. How vile!

thats a little critical man, potheads(as im affectionately gonna refer to them as) dont smoke to feel good about themselves. they find the buzz apparently really nice and simply engage in it over and over. granted it is alot worse for you than say getting sucked into a good manga

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I personally think this is an inappropriate topic. Asking people like they have been involved in drugs or not.....But hey, I'm not mods so what do I know. I don't touch any of those. I'm clean all my life and will remain clean. I don't need a freaking plant to make me feel good about myself. I KNOW I feel good. Pain and pleasure are two sides of the coin that I eagerly devour.

What a wonderful world we live in. Adults encouraging kids to do drugs. How vile!

that's a little critical man, potheads(as I'm affectionately gonna refer to them as) don't smoke to feel good about themselves. they find the buzz apparently really nice and simply engage in it over and over. granted it is a lot worse for you than say getting sucked into a good manga

I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not. But I beg of you, tell me you are being sarcastic.

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I'm just addiced to milk....

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BACK TO TOPIC
I stopped a friend of mine from smoking....nearly.....from one package a day to one package in a week
😛 but still 😔

Na, don't smoke. Most males in the Zinn side of my family die at 40 from health related problems. 😢

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I personally think this is an inappropriate topic. Asking people like they have been involved in drugs or not.....But hey, I'm not mods so what do I know. I don't touch any of those. I'm clean all my life and will remain clean. I don't need a freaking plant to make me feel good about myself. I KNOW I feel good. Pain and pleasure are two sides of the coin that I eagerly devour.

What a wonderful world we live in. Adults encouraging kids to do drugs. How vile!

that's a little critical man, potheads(as I'm affectionately gonna refer to them as) don't smoke to feel good about themselves. they find the buzz apparently really nice and simply engage in it over and over. granted it is a lot worse for you than say getting sucked into a good manga

I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not. But I beg of you, tell me you are being sarcastic.

im not trying to get any thing flaming going on, but whats there to be sarcastic about? what are you even saying?

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[quote=ares6]I personally think this is an inappropriate topic. Asking people like they have been involved in drugs or not.....But hey, I'm not mods so what do I know. I don't touch any of those. I'm clean all my life and will remain clean. I don't need a freaking plant to make me feel good about myself. I KNOW I feel good. Pain and pleasure are two sides of the coin that I eagerly devour.

What a wonderful world we live in. Adults encouraging kids to do drugs. How vile!

that's a little critical man, potheads(as I'm affectionately gonna refer to them as) don't smoke to feel good about themselves. they find the buzz apparently really nice and simply engage in it over and over. granted it is a lot worse for you than say getting sucked into a good manga

I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not. But I beg of you, tell me you are being sarcastic.

im not trying to get any thing flaming going on, but whats there to be sarcastic about? what are you even saying?[/quote]

And who is encouraging anyone to do drugs? I certainly wasn't if I'm the adult you were referring to. I'm pretty sure I said not to smoke, and that cigarettes (aside from the really bad 3 - crack/coke/heroin) is one of the most addictive substances there is.

Good for you that you have decided that you will not pollute your body. I hope you never change that about yourself.

But if this is gonna turn into a debate about pot smoking, there should probably be another thread 'cause I have lots to say on the subject. But just a little insight - no one has ever died from smoking pot, but everyday, thousands of people die from drinking alcohol (and I don't mean from accidents, but from the drug itself). OH- is Bad, m-kay. THC, not so much.

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Hah... maybe you guys can create a topic in the 18+ section about this. I think THC can't actually kill you because by the time you actually get close to a lethal dose, you've passed out and can't take any more. Although, it might be different with injesting. Alcohol is a little bit different because it may inhibit your gag reflex... and thus, by the time you do drink too much, you die because you start choking on your own vomit.

Ah. Graphic. Maybe I'll spoiler tag that part.

But yes. The only thing I'd argue against with any type of smoking is that there is an addiction factor... and also, the smoke can cause cancer.

But, I guess your body, your choice... until the law comes into play, of course. ^_^;;

And waahh.. chill, everyone! No one is deliberately trying to hurt others, riiiightt?
mumbles or at least they better not be. ^_^;;

-Max

Okay anything that dulls your senses and fries your brain is bad. If you have seen the effect that mary jane has on a person who smokes regularly you wouldn't make loose statements like "no one has ever died from smoking pot". Here if you need to know about the effects of pot and the no. of people who smoke it in the u.s. and other useful stats you can read this article: [url]http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html[/url]
Pay careful attention to the way pot affects the brain. And all the increased risks of disease because of pot use and then say that again. Seriously not being able to put together a sentence or talk about anything with any intelligence whatsoever is not cool so don't smoke pot. The hell with people who say pot is better than cigarettes (cigarettes don't turn you into a vegetable but it will turn you into a nervous junkie). So be wise and stay away from anything that will turn you into an addict or mess up you head. Oh and stay in school kids. (someone has to be a real adult around here) 🙂

I didn't open this thread to encourage smoking (a legal drug) or even illegal drugs. I just felt that if I already put up options like "cigars" I'd have to put up "joints" as well, because it is some sort of smoking... And I also don't want to encourage anyone to start smoking.

Edit: cannabis combined with IQ: would be interesting to see the long term development of the IQ of someone who regularly smokes pot...

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Okay anything that dulls your senses and fries your brain is bad. If you have seen the effect that mary jane has on a person who smokes regularly you wouldn't make loose statements like "no one has ever died from smoking pot". Here if you need to know about the effects of pot and the no. of people who smoke it in the u.s. and other useful stats you can read this article: [url]http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html[/url]
Pay careful attention to the way pot affects the brain. And all the increased risks of disease because of pot use and then say that again. Seriously not being able to put together a sentence or talk about anything with any intelligence whatsoever is not cool so don't smoke pot. The hell with people who say pot is better than cigarettes (cigarettes don't turn you into a vegetable but it will turn you into a nervous junkie). So be wise and stay away from anything that will turn you into an addict or mess up you head. Oh and stay in school kids. (someone has to be a real adult around here) 🙂

i like to call it the cheech and chong effect
im not advocating to light up a dewbie or anything
i just had to respond to the generalization that ppl who smoke do it b/c they feel bad about themselves

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I didn't open this thread to encourage smoking (a legal drug) or even illegal drugs. I just felt that if I already put up options like "cigars" I'd have to put up "joints" as well, because it is some sort of smoking... And I also don't want to encourage anyone to start smoking.

Edit: cannabis combined with IQ: would be interesting to see the long term development of the IQ of someone who regularly smokes pot...

Study has shown, people who takes drug has a lower IQ than normal people. The effects of drug slows down sensitivity, reaction time, and brain functionality. In short, your IQ decrease while the amount of drug accumulation increases. Some drug can remain in your spine for up to twenty years before your body system can fully clean it out. Once your body has been polluted by any drug, it is extremely difficult to revert your body back to it's normal condition.

My opinion? Smoking any kind of drug(including tobacco) is the sign of inadequate mental discipline.

reasons why people smoke:
-Gets rid of depression and stress
-experience a new sensation
-Feels good
-take it to suppress physical pain
-Curiosity kills the man.
-Peer pressure.
Did i miss one?

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What studies? I'd really like to know where you're getting your information from.

Y'know, I'm not in support of taking drugs, but I do understand that although it has an effect on the brain, I'm not quite sure that marijuana will cause permanent damage... as in lowering IQ... esp. since there is no control group for that study... and the variability of the normal human population is so huge!

For example, you wrote: "Once your body has been polluted by any drug, it is extremely difficult to revert your body back to it's normal condition." I'd like to point out that "it's" should be "its"... since it isn't possessive. 😛

Sorry about that, but it's to prove a point... how can you ever normalize what the "average" IQ is going to be? Each individual has their own strengths in intelligence... (I think I remember you saying you were brilliant at math? but maybe not so much in grammar.) And so, how could you ever have a study where you can truly determine that ingesting THC, or another drug, is going to decrease IQ? You'd have to have a huge sample size in order to begin to infer something like that...

So, in conclusion, I also have read a few articles (taken from PubMed) about THC and its effects... and it looks like the scientific community is kinda torn on whether or not this drug is really that dangerous.

And even without reading all that, you can infer that this drug, taken in moderation, isn't going to cause permanent damage... because of the fact that it can be used medicinally.

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What studies? I'd really like to know where you're getting your information from.

Y'know, I'm not in support of taking drugs, but I do understand that although it has an effect on the brain, I'm not quite sure that marijuana will cause permanent damage... as in lowering IQ... esp. since there is no control group for that study... and the variability of the normal human population is so huge!

For example, you wrote: "Once your body has been polluted by any drug, it is extremely difficult to revert your body back to it's normal condition." I'd like to point out that "it's" should be "its"... since it isn't possessive. 😛

Sorry about that, but it's to prove a point... how can you ever normalize what the "average" IQ is going to be? Each individual has their own strengths in intelligence... (I think I remember you saying you were brilliant at math?) And so, how could you ever have a study where you can truly determine that ingesting THC, or another drug, is going to decrease IQ? You'd have to have a huge sample size in order to begin to infer something like that...

So, in conclusion, I also have read a few articles (taken from PubMed) about THC and its effects... and it looks like the scientific community is kinda torn on whether or not this drug is really that dangerous.

And even without reading all that, you can infer that this drug, taken in moderation, isn't going to cause permanent damage... because of the fact that it can be used medicinally.

Please do not try to justify your opinion by pointing out my spelling mistake. It's quite pitiful. Since you can't find faults in my logic, you prey on my spelling.

Logic, logic, logic, Slow reaction time, lost of sensitivity, lost of mental concentration, permanent damage to brain tissues, are all signs of drug taking. These are also major factors that impedes you from scoring good on an IQ Test. All humans are alike in brain structure. These, assuming each race is equal and has the same basic potential to score the same IQ tests or about the same. It is also correct to assume that a standard deviation graph can be drawn to show the average IQ number.

Please do pay attention to what we are discussing here. We are not talking about medical drugs. We are talking about street drugs, illegal ones and tobacco.
I find faults within your logic. You are connecting two nonparallel topics.

http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/01/news/1154
http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/26/news/1191

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Please do pay attention to what we are discussing here. We are not talking about medical drugs. We are talking about street drugs, illegal ones and tobacco.
I find faults within your logic. You are connecting two nonparallel topics.

http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/01/news/1154
http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/26/news/1191

i just dont get what you mean by lack of mental discipline ares?
about quitting? caving in to the buzz?

phat article by the way, tho i didnt really see the relevance in the first one

well anyway its off to my last final
save me please?

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Please do pay attention to what we are discussing here. We are not talking about medical drugs. We are talking about street drugs, illegal ones and tobacco.
I find faults within your logic. You are connecting two nonparallel topics.

http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/01/news/1154
http://www.omninerd.com/2007/03/26/news/1191

i just don't get what you mean by lack of mental discipline ares?
about quitting? caving in to the buzz?

phat article by the way, tho i didn't really see the relevance to the topic

The first one is just random and the second one is mostly related. 😀
Stronger mental discipline means you won't fall into the trap of drugs. You probably won't take drugs to solve your problems or other things. It's pretty clear.

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