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MAKING AIR TREK

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Post #228096 - Reply To (#227375) by orion712
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16 years ago
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windmill.... a windmill generates power by 2 magnetic plates rotating against eachother essentially. use that method. here's a link describing how mechanical energy can be transfered to generate electricity.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/wind_animation.html

considering that the wind is a force that generates momentum in the blades, we can obviously take out the prop because we're already moving and generating our own kinetic energy so take just the single generator and magnets.
i think if you place the generator between the two wheels that the motion of these wheels can grab and move the generator. this way we dont have to worry about our at's being big and bulky.

nice, great idea. we just have to figure out how to integrate it in with the motors.
or we can have a motor on one wheel and a generator on other.
if we could get this to work it would be pretty good. if we had to go a sort of long distance and we already had some momentum we could just lean on one skate and take pressure off the other, but still let the wheels spin. That way we could recharge the batteries on each skate one by one. we would still run out of energy eventually, because this couldn't really be completely efficient, but it would still let you ride for a bit longer.


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16 years ago
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i hv try to make an AT b4...i think i did it correctly bt i dun really dare to try it...bt i know that it's very haevy.....so wat now? 🙁 😕


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Do u know wat happen to me on nov 25?
I went out using my bike,
i move so fast that i saw something,
an at that moment i felt like i was apart with the wind^^

Post #228448 - Reply To (#228443) by skygirl90
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16 years ago
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Let it go. Just let it go.
Let this thread rest in peace.

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i hv try to make an AT b4...i think i did it correctly bt i dun really dare to try it...bt i know that it's very haevy.....so wat now? 🙁 😕

Must... resist... urge to flame....


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how can i 😕 i wanna feel wat eveyone here want's too


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Do u know wat happen to me on nov 25?
I went out using my bike,
i move so fast that i saw something,
an at that moment i felt like i was apart with the wind^^

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16 years ago
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i've just read this recently,
i haven't read the whole thing so i'm not sure if you've thought of this
BUT...
here is MY idea.
using the windmill motor u can create an opening at the front of the AT for wind to past through. put mini wind turbines that would spin to create energy for the motor in the opening. and not have the motor in the wheels but in the gap above the wheels which would spin gears that would make its way through to the wheel for it to spin. but all this again would already require momentum and only speed you up or get you running longer. but i believe this can be very helpful.
this idea has came from the last episode of air gear and the roaring regalia.
atm im using cad to create blueprints


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16 years ago
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well first off the prototype would be bulky but at least its a start you know i think we should try just for now to use two tiny motors that would be on both sides of the shoe as for the batter.....we might need something well powerful but still 2 motors about the size of the anyones ankle 1 it would allow balance and also double the power 😃


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16 years ago
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yo everyone you can have 2 motors one on each side in like air vents like the rumble regalia but more to the back, the motors can be tuned with gears that power both wheels so that you can tune it for torque or hp. the suspension idea is this

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_S9a_OmUxPDI/RsNfBsQ4n2I/AAAAAAAAAFo/KGBxoUeMxmk/Footgeasr+Suspension+Device+InLine+Skate.jpg

and the battery can be lithium shaped like a psp battery and a psp memory stick for the memory.
the motor can be a

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rc-truckncar-tuning.com/images/green-machine-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.rc-truckncar-tuning.com/green-machine-3.html&usg=__pa05mkNjv3T_UggcJRf3hiDMbFQ=&h=331&w=418&sz=30&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=dz2Yejq1wtkWKM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=125&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstrongest%2Brc%2Bmotor%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

with, as said before, with ultra strong magnets but i think that we should use magnets as strong as possible for climbing hills as that will be hard 😁 or ill try 2 find a 1 to 4 kw motor. ill be back with more designs


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16 years ago
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Wassup guys. Im Eaglez,

A few people who are dedicated to makign ATS for real. I put up a organized site that is quite new.

http://z13.invisionfree.com/TheAtProject3/index.php?act=idx

You have to be a member to see the info. about the ATS though. We are looking forward to new people with bright ideas and we will never ignore an idea. So join up and let the games begin 😛


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16 years ago
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long post ahead.

so what we have so far is this"

possibly a snowboard shoe
which will give us stability while keeping the boot light and giving us ample room on the sole of the shoe for any mechanical work.

semi high torque motor
i want to know exactly which motors we're looking at. the motor is the heart of the shoe. we need to know the size and output of the motor as well as shape. any links should be posted and favorited in your internet browser for reference.

stable high output battery.
i came across another idea. i play airsoft and was watching videos of airsoft guns on youtube. redwolf airsoft made a minigun.... think of the power it needed. on a tiny battery that ya'll are thinking of, it'd be reduculous to assume anything could dish out power and retain it's charge for any ammount of time. the battery does not need to be in the shoe. we could wire it to the motor and have it stored on the outside of the boot or on the leg inside a satchel. like i said in the beginning, if you're going to make these at's, stop worrying about space, we don't have the technology readily available to make real at's so of course our prototype will be huge and bulky.

motor to wheel
we know that there's motors involved but how exactly will we mount them to tthe wheel. here's another suggestion. mechanical energy is lost when you plate 2 gears together. what i'm saying is when you have 2 gears lined up at the teeth, you lose energy in the gaps between the teeth. the best way to reduce energy loss is through a chain, like a motorcycle. if we can link the wheel to the motor through a chain or a belt then we would reduce power loss and gain another means of cooling. cooling is one thing i was worried about. friction will cause these things to heat up along with high energy output, if these things overheat, then we're screwed, the belt provides a "bucket of water" if you will between the hammer and the anvil. the two parts that will be producing the most heat will then have a means of getting rid of or keeping the two from accumulating heat. it's a valid means of cooling.

a bunch of idiots
obviously this thread has moved past "omg i wanna make at's lul" and into actual mechanics and physics. a poster here said that if at's were actually made, it will be bigger than any x game sport out there. everyone has seen those stupid "ripsticks" which is essentially a razor scooter with a swivel wheel and no handle bar. laaaaaaaame. it was someones retarded idea of combining skating, surfing, and those razor scooters which was a horrible idea. LOOK PEOPLE! i dont care if you wanna read what we've said or not but i expect ya'll to present actual research and not some half assed ideas. it seems like we've gotten as far as theory and you all have just given up. and if i'm gonna be the only one putting time into this then i'll end the thread.

get your head in the game people.


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16 years ago
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we could firstuse a modified rc helicopter motor for beginers ontop of both wheels and have that connected to a chain which would then give you the tourqe 😁 😁 😁 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛


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16 years ago
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Ummm have you guys started building yet? becuase ive been looking around at sites making this becuase im a dedicated AT builder and a lot of site ive seen are like starting to build or already building. Soo.... Have you guys started building yet? 😐


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16 years ago
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i think i got something.

therer would have to be a chip with a programe that connects to a pressure pad under the moter wheel. the chip would need the usered weight and height data so the pads know how much speed to emit on the user. though every pair has to be customised to its user.

the chip would be connected to a spring bar system that acts as suspention to protect the motor, there would be plenty of space for power storage as the fact its easy to obtain small springs chips tend to be small and motors are small in most toys anyway.

for propulstion take the iea of a rolercoster wheel, the main wheel is the bar and it has smaller wheels on the inside that move it. the wheel would work in tandem which is stronger than one wheel alone pluss it will go faster, let alone allow you to reverse unlike actual air treks.


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16 years ago
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I really hate(love) to be the prick that burst ur bubble but air gear is a manga and the physics therein are not real. I'm not just bein a downer cause it would be badass if it was real but even if people somehow made it then 1 STUPID KID would fall and break his face and mothers everywhere would come together to force manufacturers to limit its speed and suck the fun out of the achievement. otherwise tho...

...goodluck


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Quote from J0hnnyTh3F0x

I really hate(love) to be the prick that burst ur bubble but air gear is a manga and the physics therein are not real. I'm not just bein a downer cause it would be badass if it was real but even if people somehow made it then 1 STUPID KID would fall and break his face and mothers everywhere would come together to force manufacturers to limit its speed and suck the fun out of the achievement. otherwise tho...

...goodluck

Underground my boy, underground.


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16 years ago
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who cares i may hav found an engineer willing to give it ago so if anyone is willing to give me some scimmatics it can be don and if some stupid boy did fall and break his face they wouldnt be able to blame the makers itl be there own fault lol


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