That's a pretty interesting thing.. but reading all 44 pages O_O wow.

Anywho, I agree with your recycling energy idea and the "see-saw." It does seem that they tend to shift their balance a remarkable amount in the manga. (Don't necessarily need to move the upper body to shift your weight.) I think the way you would get one side to not reverse the way the wheel is turning is to have another gear of similar size that would make the 2nd gear turn the desired way.

The shock-absorption system would be a air pneumatic system that has a ventilation system, two springs, and a piston. After a jump the piston would force the air out and then the springs would force the piston back up which creates a vacuum which would then draw in outside air (did I explain that clearly?)

Perhaps you can have a small but powerful rechargeable battery along with an energy recycling system. This would allow you to start up easier but at the same time preserve battery life. Also, I think that it would be desirable to have a small burst of speed after jumping so that it is easier for the AT's and the rider to cope with the force.

Nothing is impossible, only improbable.

i'm new to this site and i haven't read the whole thread on making ATs. But its nice to see people actually coming together to try and make this happen.
I've pondered i little bit about this topic, i haven't tested it yet, but using stronger magnets in the motor like grade N50/N52 neodymium magnets, might get you more torque or speed, again i haven't tested it so i don't know. and as for the batteries, there are 'super' iron batteries that are rechargeable and supposedly have a 50% higher capacity than lithium alkaline batteries. The good thing about them is that they are rechargeable, which is what we need and they store a lot more energy. which will allow us to reduce the size of the battery required. but the problem is that it is fairly new and most likely won't be close to being on the market for a couple of years. I was also thinking about putting the motors actually inside the wheels allowing us to expand the motor and use larger magnets and what-not, kind of with the idea of, instead of the motor spinning a shaft, the shaft is fixed and the motor body should spin. like when you hold the propeller of a toy helicopter and the body spins around instead of the prop.
also have you guys discussed small generators as well, because you wont be using the motors all the time, so when you're braking or just rolling with no applied force you can get some energy back, although it might be really small.

well im back again and ive read all the pages it tooka wile but i finished and
i came back with some ideas based on the new chapters of air gear and some one mine the weight of the person on the air trek is divided in to the 2 skates so im thinking of finding a battery the size of a floppy disk

p.s. correct me if i iz wrong and if you like to share more ideas faster feel free to email me to tukidoman@hotmail.com just put the subject as air trek plz 😀

i just remembered something on one late post i mentioned that nike uses the iron ball air trek y dont you stat with something like that? also killik uses them

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didnt i mention that on page 44? that we need a small and thin sized rechargable battery pack? and small generators are consider kenetic energy o_o 🤢

Here's an article about batteries using nanowires, it was posted on the 'AT-project' forum. They hold ten times the charge of lithuim-ion batteries.
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2008/january9/nanowire-010908.html
On the other forum they were talking about putting the pressure sensing system (for acceleration) in the cuff of the boot. although i think it is a good idea to have some sensors in the cuff i think they should still be mostly in the sole. they were also saying that they want the brakes to apply as soon as you stop leaning forward. i don't think this is a good idea at all, because that way you would not be able to just coast. it would be either using up power from the motor or stopping right away. also if you stop leaning forward and it stops breaking you are still standing up right and you would get flung forward. if you had to lean backward to stop it would make more sense because the breaks stopping and you leaning back would balance out. people are also talking about just power-sliding at these high speeds you would be going at. Powersliding on rollerblades is much different than on ice and especially when you are going fast. sure i bet it would be possible though if we used a brake system and you slowed down a bit.
i think we should do some testing on pressure points while skating. because you can always just program in patterns or places to ignore that would otherwise screw it up, and that kind of stuff.

Well for the most i came in late on this topic (duh), but i have tried makin them since the manga came out. I have some of the design plotted in my head but no where to put it, and being of an insignificant age it wouldnt really matter (and lack of artistic skill ). But i pretty much have most of the damper design, gyroscopes,engine, and battery thought out and currently workin on the wheels. Damper would be like a car and smaller friction dampers at the wheel. gyroscopes would be positioned in the shoe under the pressure pads probably, for easy steerin, engine would be a wind based and pressure engine so that direction and speed could be maintained and adjusted with pressure of the foot and where it would be located along with the air circulating to keep a steady flow and possibly increase accleration if i thought it out right. And finally the battery which would be like the everlight flashlight batteries that have copper circulation so that jus riding the A-T would keep it goin and plus would also help the engine to go. Well thats all i got for now, but the thing is i dont have the exact physics know how and plus i dont know the materials to make it out of, seeing that the parts would be under major stress, from pressure, impact, weight, and speed and some other factors i cant think of. But im pretty sure this is possible, jus need help doin it. Hope this works out soon.

I've been looking at this topic for awhile now and I have been very impressed by the gather information to make ATs. But based on the world we live in we will never be able to freely use ATs when it becomes created based on the danger level. Also in alot of people eyes will see it as a weapon. Although most will use it for fun and freedom.

does anyone have any ideas about what materials could be used to sustain the pressure, something lightweight but durable 😕 😕 😕 😕

I finally finished reading this whole thing...

So, I have been thinking about trying to construct a pair of A-T too..

Using the in wheel motor would be good, i think if someone made a custon frame you could actually fit everything too..

What about making a frame that could fit a UFS (Universal Frame System) compatible skate, then you could change the boot and such.

ok guys. heres the deal. we all have ideas but let me get something straight. you want:
motor with high torque
battery powered motor at that
small but powerful battery supply
speed control
brakes

that's alotta stuff guys.
back when they made cars the didnt have power steering and all that jazz.
baby steps folks.... baby steps.
lets focus on getting a pair of 2 wheels to move a 150 pound person first then we can work in the details.

since this is a secure site and we've all agreed to the terms of service, all of these topics are legal recorded documents so if we're gonna do this we need to save all of these records. i suggest the original poster should assume that responsibility.

now on to different things......
my perrsonal prefrence on this is.. once we get a viable power source and functioning motor, i think we need to throw out the idea of an on board computer and think remote control. a remote control for speed, a remote control for brakes, a remote control for on and off is you so choose to save power and use them as regular skates. the best means to do so would in my opinion would be a pistol grip type. i'll draw something up and post it on deviant art so ya'll can see my idea. but that will be later. this idea saves space in the shoo for pressure pads and whatnot. also saves costs and weight in the feet. i also think the frame and any moving parts be made of nanotube and the frame for the boot be made of carbon fiber. it'll be as light as we can. we also need to think safety. im not an engine or wiring specialist so i'll leave that to ya'll. throw me ideas. ya'll seem to be on to something with magnetic engine or kinetic engine. i'd like to see that become the first thing we figure out so if you would all allow me. can we move the topic of this board now to the development of the engine? we have to start somewhere and with all these floating ideas, i think something needs to be done with them. let's just focus on getting a person moving for now.

I'm not really into the R/C thing but if its all we can do and it it will save space then i can't really say anything...
but for the wheel motor, i think the one guy that made one for his scooter is about as close to or even exactly what we want. he are some links i found for you guys to look at,
http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/pics/sc2/sc2_49.jpg

Here's the suspension system he was looking at, this seems like we could use the same idea aswell
http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/pics/sc2/sn_suspension.jpg

Any one live in Australia? seems the Aussies have made something useful to us, if anyone lives in Australia it would be really helpful if you could find more information on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zEKcnt5Emk

and here's the Japanese version of the motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_41btVawMc&feature=related
the stator is moving and looks like it is causing the wheel to accelerate. can someone explain why this is, and is it useful to us? and can we still use it if we want to accelerate backwards as well?

It would be really great if we could find a way to have the motor generate electricity at the same time, while braking, or while we are skating without the motor to, generate electricity. there are things like, dynamic braking ,regenerative braking that could be useful to use, so if anyone has any experience with or knowledge of alternators, generators, motors and that kind of stuff, it would be great to hear your thoughts on what we can do. i think there is also some way that certain motors can also generate electricity at certain times.
I really think that finding some way to generate electricity by skating or getting any energy back in from the motor/ wheels spinning is a really important part of this project, because our batteries are just not powerful enough/ can't store the energy we need, and if they can they are probably too expensive for us. by being able to generate energy as we go and move, it will eliminate or just lessen this problem. everyone already knows all this... but lets get on it

just a idea you guy should talk about this in a more sacure manner, someone could patent you design and theories and make a bundle of all the work you guys did. because if air treks are ever made they will be bigger than all x-games sports

Not nessarily unless the person holds a huge amount of sums in his hand there isn't that much of a way to but all of our ideas together but heres something everyone should think about if you use a Cad System like i am now and put all the pieces together u should come up with a more than decent looking air trek on the computer.

yea i tried that,... but i suck at it, cause i just tried to figure it out on my own.
and i couldnt figure out how to make parts for a motor, our motors will probably have to be custom made.
and seriously we need to figure out how we are going to get some energy back in, we also need to figure out the best way of braking, (if we are going to have a friction brake or some sort of eddy repulsion brake, or something) we might have to use the braking to regain some energy if we cant find another way to do it

windmill.... a windmill generates power by 2 magnetic plates rotating against eachother essentially. use that method. here's a link describing how mechanical energy can be transfered to generate electricity.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/wind_animation.html

considering that the wind is a force that generates momentum in the blades, we can obviously take out the prop because we're already moving and generating our own kinetic energy so take just the single generator and magnets.
i think if you place the generator between the two wheels that the motion of these wheels can grab and move the generator. this way we dont have to worry about our at's being big and bulky.