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3:22 pm, Apr 8 2009
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hey i just started reading up on this conversation and id like to be as much help as possible


when u say a battery might be a problem because of size, how small and how much power are talking here, i know enough to move a person and small enough to fit into the wheel but if someone could say some thing more specific it would be a big help for me to help you.

thx in advance biggrin
and sorry if it was already mentioned(didn't have time to read all 53 pages lol) cool

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8:39 pm, Apr 9 2009
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so far it's guess work. so i do appologize but we have forever to work out kinks and find precise workings.

wheel diamiter altogether with housing(10 to 14 inch diamiter)

The undershoe part INCLUDES BATTERY AND ANYTHING THAT WE PLAN PUTTING IN IT(has to be 2-3 inch tall casing and be as long as the shoe)

The shoe will be attached via glue, and small brackets.

The grade matterial we want to use as metal will be a ultra light steal alloy perhaps a high carbon percentage.

The shoes neck will only go up half a foot from the bottom of the soul. this will give confort to the rider while also slightly protecting him/her from a broken ankle

shoe content( air cussioned shock obsorbing bottoms the same technology nike uses or used) the ouside will be made of low grade leather. strong enough for durablility without tearing to shreads(if there is a better kind of fabric then please incorperate it into the plans) straps will be attached to the under casing.

Straps( nilon sort of material with lightweight steal buckles.)
buckles will be the same as a rope climbers harnes style.

Undercasing includes( battery electrical whires turn bars and now protective hubs. the bubs will go down to half wheel point)




I feel like i'm running this thing. people PLEASE talk, tell me things. work together. don't give up. i'll gladly quit if you guys want me too. i'm sorry =(

Post #275132 - Reply to (#274572) by IkkiCrow
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9:17 pm, Apr 11 2009
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Quote from IkkiCrow
so far it's guess work. so i do appologize but we have forever to work out kinks and find precise workings.

wheel diamiter altogether with housing(10 to 14 inch diamiter)

The undershoe part INCLUDES BATTERY AND ANYTHING THAT WE PLAN PUTTING IN IT(has to be 2-3 inch tall casing and be as long as the shoe)

The shoe will be attached via glue, and small brackets.

The grade matterial we want to use as metal will be a ultra light steal alloy perhaps a high carbon percentage.

The shoes neck will only go up half a foot from the bottom of the soul. this will give confort to the rider while also slightly protecting him/her from a broken ankle

shoe content( air cussioned shock obsorbing bottoms the same technology nike uses or used) the ouside will be made of low grade leather. strong enough for durablility without tearing to shreads(if there is a better kind of fabric then please incorperate it into the plans) straps will be attached to the under casing.

Straps( nilon sort of material with lightweight steal buckles.)
buckles will be the same as a rope climbers harnes style.


Woah Woah Woah hold on a sec, did u just say the wheel is going to be 10-14 INCHES in DIAMETER, thats almost a foots length of a wheel. Thats going to make 1) Make the AT look stupid 2) Make weight of the AT like 15 pounds per shoe and 3)Not like the anime which is what were going for.

Also the undercasing is 2-3 inches...thats kinda big, if your adding this up whearing the at is going to make us a whole foot taller...which is kinda stupid in my opinion, i know the casing needs to be big enough to fit everything in but 2-3 inches seems a bit too big, mayb we can find some way to reduce the space.

The material we suggested using was some carbon fiber metal thing which is supposedly stronger then metal, check posts on pages 1-2 somewhere around there.

Lastly, if your looking for a battery with a kick we all know LiPo batteries are the strongest you can get so far. Avg of 3.7V and we can mayb customize one to be about 2x the size of avg hobby planes LiPO battery and make the amp higher to power the strong motor. Im estimating a runtime of about 20-30 minutes. You can check it out.

Please recheck ur data, make sure its not wrong...cuz 10 inch wheels are BIG (might i remind you an avg car wheel is 19-21 inches)


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8:54 pm, Apr 13 2009
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yea im brand new to this post and to air gear on ep 5 XD but i have a good idea about a power source what about kinetic energy? like give it a small start and the wheels will do the rest of the work idk if it will work the only problem people will say is its not fully automatic that you have to "push start " btw if your wondering how a motor or somthing like that powered by kinetic energy could fit that small ive seen those flash lights that u spin to get energy but that raises another problem how fast you can go idk XD just a guess hope it helps

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8:48 pm, Apr 14 2009
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if you wanna make the wheels try looking up independent wheel drive in Google
it's a system where the engines are inside the wheels
nano-sized it and air trek's reality

power source: no idea ,battery maybe

Post #276375 - Reply to (#275799) by spankkey0998
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5:02 pm, Apr 15 2009
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Quote from spankkey0998
yea im brand new to this post and to air gear on ep 5 XD but i have a good idea about a power source what about kinetic energy? like give it a small start and the wheels will do the rest of the work idk if it will work the only problem people will say is its not fully automatic that you have to "push start " btw if your wondering how a motor or somthing like that powered by kinetic energy could fit that small ive seen those flash lights that u spin to get energy but that raises another problem how fast you can go idk XD just a guess hope it helps


kinetic energy may seem like a good idea but as we all know energy is loss at all times even if we use kinetic energy were not going to be moving any faster, u can use little energy to make a lot. With the use of continuous kinetic energy....might as well call them rollerblades.

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if you wanna make the wheels try looking up independent wheel drive in Google
it's a system where the engines are inside the wheels
nano-sized it and air trek's reality

power source: no idea ,battery maybe


Already mentioned that before, at the rate technology is not likely, although there is currently a suit that was made in japan, a wearable robot suit that enhacnces physical strength and help rehabilitate. (notice the company name....same as the company that makes terminator in the Terminator movie.....WERE FUCKED) (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10218178-1.html?tag=mncol ;txt) Anyways. that i already proposed this idea earlier but we will have to wait on the results of how fast the microing of large technology is progressing.

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11:06 pm, Apr 15 2009
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i am new to this disscussion but i have read all 54 pages of the topic and i beleive that even if we have to carry batteries in a backpack and hold an electronic throttle in our hand i have kept up with charles and project razEr i have discussed with my father the proposal of making a powered skate and i really beleive that if we put our minds to it that over time throught the suppliment of many ideas we could accomplish somethin truely great.
ps when he puts his mind to something my father is a mechanical and electrical genius spent a few years in the marines as an avionics ( sorry if i misspelled that ) technician fixing electrical and informational programming related problems
i have seen this man take a random controller from a sterio and rewire the board to work for a tv lol he also has extensive knowlege of batteries and electric motors he told me himself that with the right tools he could make an engine like project razErs and or even the other engine design that charles considdered useing

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11:57 pm, Apr 15 2009
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Have you guys actually started building the ATs? or is it only at the concept stage right now?

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2:26 pm, Apr 16 2009
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Everyone. i've gathered every bit of information i could.
My progress is at a 4 way intersection.

The time to get seriouse is now. I do not plan to carry
any backpack or throttle controll.

my plans involve the controls in the skate (which means that this is gonna require a new kind of skill to people)
The adjustments that can be made to the skate can alter for
everyperson and be teched out in variouse ways

the AT havn't passed design or realy the full spectrum hasn't been drawn. Soon i would say in 1 to 2 months im getting a patent for My AT design. It can be our AT design. There are something even if i know what needs to be done i still cannot achieve because of lack of training in the section such as circuit board mechanics.

I'm looking for people who want in on this. We are going to bring AT into the modern world, and after a year i garuentee the technology will advance along with these skates.
Remember when computers started out? huge things. well we are going to start out simple and work our way up to what we all know as AT but we arent starting off slow i'de say i've got it at 56% resemblence.

Get a yahoo messenger my name for it is

blazingbirdofegypt@yahoo.com

I'm not gonna just add people on i will have to get to know you some before i just involve you in on this huge thing.



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11:59 pm, Apr 16 2009
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I was researching to the same purpose when I found this forum. I read the whole convo and think it's doable. So what do I need to prove to be in on this project and what can I do to help out? smile

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8:17 am, Apr 17 2009
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Ikkicrow many people have made clams that they have made air treks or something close to it unless you show something as proof of your acheivement then i dont think anyone will take you serious so at least provide a picture that way some of us could hope that this is possable. no offence what so ever

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Post #277275 - Reply to (#277079) by adamska954
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10:02 pm, Apr 17 2009
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Quote from adamska954
Ikkicrow many people have made clams that they have made air treks or something close to it unless you show something as proof of your acheivement then i dont think anyone will take you serious so at least provide a picture that way some of us could hope that this is possable. no offence what so ever



Assuming form your response u have never read any previous pages probably. Were still in the concept state and blue printing the design on the ATS. Resemblence isnt important right now, its the functionality. The main purpose of this discussion is in an ATTEMPT to make ATs. So far as i have researched out technology is not equivalent to those of the anime. (It could be....using probably million dollar micro technology parts that are probably in development by governments with military fund for the purpose of espionage, but were not that rich) So anyways, we have the idea of what we want which is to make a replica of the ATS' functions. It does not have to go at like 40 MPH nor does it have to last us 3 hours (guessing one's session time) just enough to move us at a reasonable speed maybe 5-10 MPH and last around maybe 20-30 minutes.

So far, we have encountered few problems to replicate the ATS.
1) Trying to find a way to make wheel engines. We know of the concept of the engine wheel from 3D video simulations from car companies. Just trying to shrink it but still make use move is a bit of the problem.
2) The complex weight system that is used to control the speed of the ATS. I don't really think we can utilize this, cause we would need a pressure sensor which is like the side of four IPod Shuffles together. Not to mention how hard it would be to control the speed. We know that after a jump we must program it that allows no acceleration and keep the speed the same as when u jumped or a bit faster depending on the incline of the jump. But the calculations are going to be hard, factoring weight, height/foot size, speed before jump, air time length, and the effects of road surface. If calculations on this part is a bit off u might end up landing and accelerating and slipping or going too slow and stalling and doing a face plant.

IF anyone knows of a professional physicists or mathematicians that can help would be great cause this calculation is probably going to be way too much for me as i am bad at math.

3) Finding a battery source small and powerful enough to power the engine. LiPo may be strong as a battery but the 3.7 voltage doesnt seem to be enough to power an engine storng enough to move about 150-180 pounds.

4)Finding a enough money to build this sucker. Engine + Wheels + Wires + Chips and Boards + Small Pressure Sensor + Battery + The Material use to make the Wheel Frame, The matterial to make the show part of the ATs and Memory Storage to store ur run data.

Rack to mayb a few hundred to thousand?

All Help from the Global Community Is Appreciated.

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11:03 pm, Apr 18 2009
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Yes, like many of the others out there, I'm brand new to the thread, and cite alike. Just joined, woot!!! Anyways, so I was looking up Air Treks, and was all, hey this cite looks promising! From what I've read, it sounds like you guys are really into this becoming a reality. I know I'm not good with projects like this, but I'd love to be able to own AT's so I'll help out as much as I can with making this dream a reality.

I know everyone's got these big ideas and starts for the AT's but nobody's really got an idea of where to start from what it sounds like. Perhaps if we just start making them like, now. Start putting things together, if it doesn't work try something different. But, just by coming up with possibilities, this project is never going to get off the drawing boards.

I'm absolutely awful with electronics, and the likes, so it looks like the only thing I'm good for here is moral support and funding! If we seriously have ideas and ways of moving forwards, I know it's not much considering I'm going off a student/parttime budget but I'd be willing to toss in money everynow and then for 'funding'.

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1:26 am, Apr 19 2009
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yo im new to this discusion but ive been folowing it for a while. And ive been toying with the idea of making AT since i first read the manga im good with elctronic circurty and mechanical work and ill happly help with design idea's and funding.


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11:48 am, Apr 19 2009
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Ok for all the new members welcome
But for the current ones....
let me repeat what i said before leaving to build me a prototype ats( with no permanate battery source)

WE ALREADY FIGURED OUR THE MOTOR!!!!
ALL WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS THE SUSPENTION
AND THE POWER SOURCE EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN FIGURED OUT!!! SO PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC PEOPLE AND TELL EVERYONE THIS BECAUSE THERES NO POINT DISSCUSSING IDEAS THAT ALREADY BEEN DECIDED!!!!

Thank you

ps my prototypes are already done and costs already 25k

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