first of all we have already figured you out unless you wanna post a video of them accually working but other then that i have done more researchinto the engines that we might be able to build and found a hobby motor website with a few good motors

like this one showing the motors http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powercroco.de%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 most of these motors are small enough to fit in the palm of the hand but i still think we should look into axial-flux 3-phase motors the other motor that charles considdered useing for his wheel there is just a lot more work that goes into the motor

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Lastly, if your looking for a battery with a kick we all know LiPo batteries are the strongest you can get so far. Avg of 3.7V and we can mayb customize one to be about 2x the size of avg hobby planes LiPO battery and make the amp higher to power the strong motor. Im estimating a runtime of about 20-30 minutes. You can check it out.

you can not customize battery it will eplode in youre face if you want to extract more power you simply connect them in diffrent configrations e.g. a combination of serial and parrallel that will give both a higher voltage and a higher (safe) maximum current

Never forgive never forget the fallen must repent

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Ok for all the new members welcome
But for the current ones....
let me repeat what i said before leaving to build me a prototype ats( with no permanate battery source)

WE ALREADY FIGURED OUR THE MOTOR!!!!
ALL WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS THE SUSPENTION
AND THE POWER SOURCE EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN FIGURED OUT!!! SO PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC PEOPLE AND TELL EVERYONE THIS BECAUSE THERES NO POINT DISSCUSSING IDEAS THAT ALREADY BEEN DECIDED!!!!

Thank you

ps my prototypes are already done and costs already 25k

Woah....must have been out for some time....didnt see the part where we got a motor.....and how is it that the prototype is almost as expensive as a car.....theres just no justification for one pair of ATs costing that much. Unless ur putting some really high tech stuff that is military grade. Anyways, i'd like some info on what motor were using, mayb a link.

For suspension, i was thinking of someones suggestion of using a form of nikes air cushion type shoes stuff, you know with the clear bubble near the heal that is for "support". I was thinking along the lines of making that sightly bigger with a few springs in the cushion just for the "extra" support like a car suspension. Anyone agree or disagree?

Now that I see that this is making progress I believe its my time to step in .... To begin I am a 17 year old entrepreneur from toronto ontario Canada and I decided to start with a venture plan on this product. A venture plan for those who dont know is a written document used to explain the product in full detail to be presented at many events. I wish to finish the venture plan soon. You maybe wondering why well if I can get a larger company to buy the idea I might be able to get funding to start on the prototypes aprx. $10,000 and if I am succeful we could be lookin at production on a global scale.

You might wonder why choose ATS well im a fan of airgear..
so if one would like to help with the completion of the venture plan we can get funding I hope as soon as possible.

So if you would like to be apart just either PM me or post and ill send you a template of a venture plan and hope to get Ats on the market as fast as possible. This will require alot of work and is more on the buisness end of thing well any questions either post or email me at Alecmahon@hotmail.com

Thank you and I hope to get this project on the road as quickly as possible

P.S We can't call them Airtreks because thats copy righted and I don't believe people have $5000 to cover lawsuits So a new name is needed Ideas? Mine was E-Blades or extended Electronic rollerblades

I was just thinking but would we need goggles? I mean if we are aiming for the speed of 40-50mph it would be kinda hard to see with all of the wind blowing in ur face. anyway that probably should be discussed later when we have a working at but I just felt like saying something 😀

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Now that I see that this is making progress I believe its my time to step in .... To begin I am a 17 year old entrepreneur from toronto ontario Canada and I decided to start with a venture plan on this product. A venture plan for those who dont know is a written document used to explain the product in full detail to be presented at many events. I wish to finish the venture plan soon. You maybe wondering why well if I can get a larger company to buy the idea I might be able to get funding to start on the prototypes aprx. $10,000 and if I am succeful we could be lookin at production on a global scale.

You might wonder why choose ATS well im a fan of airgear..
so if one would like to help with the completion of the venture plan we can get funding I hope as soon as possible.

So if you would like to be apart just either PM me or post and ill send you a template of a venture plan and hope to get Ats on the market as fast as possible. This will require alot of work and is more on the buisness end of thing well any questions either post or email me at Alecmahon@hotmail.com

Thank you and I hope to get this project on the road as quickly as possible

P.S We can't call them Airtreks because thats copy righted and I don't believe people have $5000 to cover lawsuits So a new name is needed Ideas? Mine was E-Blades or extended Electronic rollerblades

E-Blades makes it sound like a sword kinda odd. Since Air Trek is copyrighted, i have a suggestion:
A.I.R2 "the two suppose to be a square sign"
(stands for Aerial Intended Revolutionary Advanced IT Rollers)
or short, Air Square, also the number of wheels is 4, a squared number lol. deep eh? I live in toronto also need some stuff we can go at it together.

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Quote from Banker232

Now that I see that this is making progress I believe its my time to step in .... To begin I am a 17 year old entrepreneur from toronto ontario Canada and I decided to start with a venture plan on this product. A venture plan for those who dont know is a written document used to explain the product in full detail to be presented at many events. I wish to finish the venture plan soon. You maybe wondering why well if I can get a larger company to buy the idea I might be able to get funding to start on the prototypes aprx. $10,000 and if I am succeful we could be lookin at production on a global scale.

You might wonder why choose ATS well im a fan of airgear..
so if one would like to help with the completion of the venture plan we can get funding I hope as soon as possible.

So if you would like to be apart just either PM me or post and ill send you a template of a venture plan and hope to get Ats on the market as fast as possible. This will require alot of work and is more on the buisness end of thing well any questions either post or email me at Alecmahon@hotmail.com

Thank you and I hope to get this project on the road as quickly as possible

P.S We can't call them Airtreks because thats copy righted and I don't believe people have $5000 to cover lawsuits So a new name is needed Ideas? Mine was E-Blades or extended Electronic rollerblades

E-Blades makes it sound like a sword kinda odd. Since Air Trek is copyrighted, i have a suggestion:
A.I.R2 "the two suppose to be a square sign"
(stands for Aerial Intended Revolutionary Advanced IT Rollers)
or short, Air Square, also the number of wheels is 4, a squared number lol. deep eh? I live in toronto also need some stuff we can go at it together.

not that I'm not into the naming of project right now, but i was just wondering since we haven't really seen the motor itself, could anyone send the design to me? or concept.. anything. I am willing to help in any way, my e-mail is functionchen@gmail.com thanks to all.

I got a link that i want u all to see.,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazDiO1aarI&feature=related
i dont know about u but i dont see any chains or bands. The design is perfectly suited for air trek, it wouldnt be the exact same and we wont be able to fly just yet lol. also the battery pack would be much larger than the ones in the wheels on air gear so we would need to come up with a swivle type of power connecter and the wheels would have to be home made, but the way i see it, its possible to create them on the salary from a part time job. Ive come up with a couple personal ideas for the power connectors and the acceleration and braking system, infact if u read my comment on the video,(my username is tokuinB) u will see what i came up with(hand controls are not allowed, vehicle will be contained entirely in the shoe) BTW I just joined this site because i found this while searching for some airtrek ideas lol 😀 If u cant use the link for some reason, the video is called "le wheelmotor".

P.S. production on a global scale would be a bad thing because there will be road laws attributed to them and age limits and thats if they would even be considered legal. Its best u just make them yourself in your and keep it secret from the daytime world. Did u not pay attention while watching air gear? BTW if my idea works i will post a complete design and building process and approximate cost, but it'll probably take a while, it won't be cheap.

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You guys, what im saying about the faraday thing is, every time the wheel moves it generates power. the battery powers the engine which moves the wheel. each revolution of the wheel powers the battery. and so on. its basically an infinite loop of power 😎

What ur saying is true but the problem is, it doesnt generate all the power u lost, its just to make it so u get some of that power back, the reason why it works on cars is because the battery only needs to power sparkplugs, it would not work the same for an electric motor that relies on the electricity to function, it could still help, but they would still run outta power eventually, also if u refer to the anime or manga, there r parts where they don't move there legs, the reason u move ur legs is to activate the pressure cencors in the front wheels, which controls ur acceleration, to keep a steady speed u need only to lean forward slightly putting ur weight to the front wheels. And i dont know who made the comment but there was something about a top speed of 20mph, u hafta remember we will have 2 possibly even 4 motors, if all wheels have a motor, compared to the scooters single motor, so the strain will be distributed amongst all the motors to give us more speed. (sorry i comented so much today i'm just really excited to have found ppl with the same goal). Now i have a question, do u really already have a design thought up and is there anyway for me to get involved? E-mail is Bonfield_beaver@hotmail.com and btw beaver is an old nickname not a dirty reference lol, i was young i didnt know 🤣

I'll shoulder the burden and carry you all up to the sky

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You guys, what im saying about the faraday thing is, every time the wheel moves it generates power. the battery powers the engine which moves the wheel. each revolution of the wheel powers the battery. and so on. its basically an infinite loop of power 😎

What ur saying is true but the problem is, it doesnt generate all the power u lost, its just to make it so u get some of that power back, the reason why it works on cars is because the battery only needs to power sparkplugs, it would not work the same for an electric motor that relies on the electricity to function, it could still help, but they would still run outta power eventually, also if u refer to the anime or manga, there r parts where they don't move there legs, the reason u move ur legs is to activate the pressure cencors in the front wheels, which controls ur acceleration, to keep a steady speed u need only to lean forward slightly putting ur weight to the front wheels. And i dont know who made the comment but there was something about a top speed of 20mph, u hafta remember we will have 2 possibly even 4 motors, if all wheels have a motor, compared to the scooters single motor, so the strain will be distributed amongst all the motors to give us more speed. (sorry i comented so much today i'm just really excited to have found ppl with the same goal). Now i have a question, do u really already have a design thought up and is there anyway for me to get involved? E-mail is Bonfield_beaver@hotmail.com and btw beaver is an old nickname not a dirty reference lol, i was young i didnt know 🤣

I admire your enthusiasm but ur comment on the 4 wheels causes draw backs in the making then helping to be honest. Not all motors run as perfect as you think they do. Even same motors from same companies, sometimes one goes slightly faster then another due to nothing ever being perfect in this world. If one wheel goes faster then another, lets say on one show the back wheel is faster then the front one, may ruin the front wheel if it cant keep up with the back wheel motor. i suggest just using two wheels, one on each shoe and at the from for more traction when your leaning forward. To make the AT more simplified to get a ground start, braking i dont think should be necessary because a braking system would be more work also not to mention drain more power. just like driving u dont brake all the time, just let go of the accel and slow urself down and do a t-stop or power slide(if you can). There doesnt need to be an pressure sensor accel either cause that would require more circuitry not to mention an on board cpu to calculate pressure relative to speed u want, more work. mayb just a simple trigger underneath the sole of the shoe, two piece of metal that contact to start the motor, the one that bends to contact the other must need a specific amount of pound pressure in order for the metals to come in contact. *like trying to bend a paper clip so it touches but it still has a flexibility to come bak up to a certain position.

Im trying to contact the person of the youtube video and try to see if we can do some partnership and start this project. wish me luck.

Hi I'm new here I like this topic so here is my Idea for Air Trek hope you guys get or like it!

People here who inline skate or roller blade should know that each wheel has a rod of metal to keep the wheel in place.

Each skate also has two bearings. Between these two bearing is a section of plastic that is part of the wheel frame.

My Idea is to hollow out this plastic just a little so that magnets can be placed in it. Then some piece of copper or other conductive piece of metal can be put onto the metall shaft and have a 9v current or more supplied to it. The scary thing about this Idea is that I can imagine up to 6-8 of these 9v batteries attached to a skate meaning that 18v of power should be behind each wheel. Or for a total of 144v of power if the skates have 4 wheels on each.

The only problem is that somebody will have to either get custom shaped magnets. The weight of that many bateries could be alot as well. IDK just my two cents I guess.

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Hi I'm new here I like this topic so here is my Idea for Air Trek hope you guys get or like it!

People here who inline skate or roller blade should know that each wheel has a rod of metal to keep the wheel in place.

Each skate also has two bearings. Between these two bearing is a section of plastic that is part of the wheel frame.

My Idea is to hollow out this plastic just a little so that magnets can be placed in it. Then some piece of copper or other conductive piece of metal can be put onto the metall shaft and have a 9v current or more supplied to it. The scary thing about this Idea is that I can imagine up to 6-8 of these 9v batteries attached to a skate meaning that 18v of power should be behind each wheel. Or for a total of 144v of power if the skates have 4 wheels on each.

The only problem is that somebody will have to either get custom shaped magnets. The weight of that many bateries could be alot as well. IDK just my two cents I guess.

I know u know what ATs are so i dont know what the fuck ur smoking. Were trying to make ATs here not voltaged up wheels.....even if u have a high voltage ok answer me this....WHERES THE MOTOR? CIRCUITRY? We (I) already have the idea all set. visit this and u should understand [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazDiO1aarI&feature=related ]
were going to use that for the wheel and the circuits are limited, battery we can change for longer run. the control for accel will be installed in the shoe OR if u dont have confidence in weight shift u can just use a hand controller. Cause we all know this is either for a cosplay or recreation so no ones gonna laugh about it. And if they do, say if ur so smart build your own then well talk. So anyways, ur concept isnt wrong, just wrong for this project.

GOOD NEWS GUYS. I Mailed teamtestbot of youtube and they said they were already starting on the electric rolelrskates (ATs). So in about mayb a few monthes they'd have it. YEAH!

BlackShiraya i understand what ur saying about the two wheels so i agree about only having one motor per skate but i think whether its in front or back would really depend the rider and his/her style of riding, if u wanna take sharp corners at high speeds it would be easier if u could over spin ur wheels in the back so that they slide better, also there is a way for the pressure censor and ur idea about the metal being pressed together to meet halfway so u would still have speed controle, if u made ur idea with a sort of switch so that there can be different stages of power going thru like for example at around 25 pounds of pressure X amount of power is pushed through because of the resistence ur using but then at 50 pounds u have another one that touches with a smaller resistence like in the form of shocks for a bike but smaller with a connector thats pushed through and makescontact with different sections, but that may be too complicated to fit so the cpu would probably be more efficient and it wouldnt take much to control the power output, it would probably take less room than an mp3 player. but if u really dont want that idea than u could use a system of shocks on the back wheel that aren't too strong so that when u put ur weight on them, the wheels would rub against a brake pad to control ur speed, because we cant just keep going top speed all the time, of course the braking idea would put a large strain on the motors and they wouldnt last too long so the cpu seems like the better idea at the moment. plus if u took pressure off to stop that would be fine but as soon as u try to do a power slide or T stop, u would put pressure again causing ur wheels to spin and u would just take off again. Also for the naming idea i suggest "sky streams" 😀 but if u put this idea through production, u could always ask the anime producers to call it air trek and it would be like merchandise for the series and mangas.

I'll shoulder the burden and carry you all up to the sky

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I got a link that i want u all to see.,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazDiO1aarI&feature=related
i dont know about u but i dont see any chains or bands. The design is perfectly suited for air trek, it wouldnt be the exact same and we wont be able to fly just yet lol. also the battery pack would be much larger than the ones in the wheels on air gear so we would need to come up with a swivle type of power connecter and the wheels would have to be home made, but the way i see it, its possible to create them on the salary from a part time job. Ive come up with a couple personal ideas for the power connectors and the acceleration and braking system, infact if u read my comment on the video,(my username is tokuinB) u will see what i came up with(hand controls are not allowed, vehicle will be contained entirely in the shoe) BTW I just joined this site because i found this while searching for some airtrek ideas lol 😀 If u cant use the link for some reason, the video is called "le wheelmotor".

P.S. production on a global scale would be a bad thing because there will be road laws attributed to them and age limits and thats if they would even be considered legal. Its best u just make them yourself in your and keep it secret from the daytime world. Did u not pay attention while watching air gear? BTW if my idea works i will post a complete design and building process and approximate cost, but it'll probably take a while, it won't be cheap.

Quote from wingroad342

You guys, what im saying about the faraday thing is, every time the wheel moves it generates power. the battery powers the engine which moves the wheel. each revolution of the wheel powers the battery. and so on. its basically an infinite loop of power 😎

What ur saying is true but the problem is, it doesnt generate all the power u lost, its just to make it so u get some of that power back, the reason why it works on cars is because the battery only needs to power sparkplugs, it would not work the same for an electric motor that relies on the electricity to function, it could still help, but they would still run outta power eventually, also if u refer to the anime or manga, there r parts where they don't move there legs, the reason u move ur legs is to activate the pressure cencors in the front wheels, which controls ur acceleration, to keep a steady speed u need only to lean forward slightly putting ur weight to the front wheels. And i dont know who made the comment but there was something about a top speed of 20mph, u hafta remember we will have 2 possibly even 4 motors, if all wheels have a motor, compared to the scooters single motor, so the strain will be distributed amongst all the motors to give us more speed. (sorry i comented so much today i'm just really excited to have found ppl with the same goal). Now i have a question, do u really already have a design thought up and is there anyway for me to get involved? E-mail is Bonfield_beaver@hotmail.com and btw beaver is an old nickname not a dirty reference lol, i was young i didnt know 🤣

I have commented the user from youtube for "Le Wheelmotor" but not sure when he will respond, in the mean while, i was wondering if anyone of you already have to design for that, or any other half-finished product you can share. So far in here, I've seen ideas and claims that we are near completing first prototype, but I think putting it all together in pictures or videos will help a lot, and we can all work together. 😀 greatly appreciated

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BlackShiraya i understand what ur saying about the two wheels so i agree about only having one motor per skate but i think whether its in front or back would really depend the rider and his/her style of riding, if u wanna take sharp corners at high speeds it would be easier if u could over spin ur wheels in the back so that they slide better, also there is a way for the pressure censor and ur idea about the metal being pressed together to meet halfway so u would still have speed controle, if u made ur idea with a sort of switch so that there can be different stages of power going thru like for example at around 25 pounds of pressure X amount of power is pushed through because of the resistence ur using but then at 50 pounds u have another one that touches with a smaller resistence like in the form of shocks for a bike but smaller with a connector thats pushed through and makescontact with different sections, but that may be too complicated to fit so the cpu would probably be more efficient and it wouldnt take much to control the power output, it would probably take less room than an mp3 player. but if u really dont want that idea than u could use a system of shocks on the back wheel that aren't too strong so that when u put ur weight on them, the wheels would rub against a brake pad to control ur speed, because we cant just keep going top speed all the time, of course the braking idea would put a large strain on the motors and they wouldnt last too long so the cpu seems like the better idea at the moment. plus if u took pressure off to stop that would be fine but as soon as u try to do a power slide or T stop, u would put pressure again causing ur wheels to spin and u would just take off again. Also for the naming idea i suggest "sky streams" 😀 but if u put this idea through production, u could always ask the anime producers to call it air trek and it would be like merchandise for the series and mangas.

I dont think u get what im saying so ill try making it more simple.

1. Powersliding/ T-stop does not add any frontal pressure but rather u lean most your weight on the back as if u were standing. I know because i rollerblade and ice skate.
2. If you were watching the le motorwheel video, it seems that the wheels stop pretty quickly so once u let go of the accelerator. Also there is no different speed just accel and no accel, the way to maintain a certain speed is just to accel let go and accel again when u need to go faster. Adding the pressure system is of no use if ur planning to use the le motorwheel. This is why i simply suggest a simple contact accel at the front of the shoe.
3. The creators and right holders of the anime will unlikely let us use the name AT unless they have full confidence in our product, done tests on it, not to mention having to hold equal rights if the product goes wrong. Plus if its on a global mass, laws will be created for sure, just like those mini motorbikes. So its best to keep it underground.
4. Sky stream is already an actual product name....http://www.skystreamenergy.com/ alwaes google before u state a name to make sure its unique.
   5)I think the wheel should be at the back of the to reduce the changes of flipping forward when u stop.

wate. does that mean ur gonna get rid of the pressure system??