jay why is it wen u try to ro pople wrong you do this ^^? or do u just do that before all of ur posts and is someone hiring you to point out all of our erorrs?. and also i said it before dont throw down ideas unless you have a better one urself.

yeah and the fact is those motors are way to big so either we need to make a motor or find a motor small enough to fit in a wheel and lets say the avg per is 145 so how much watts do you need

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Well ill take you up on that Jay ill make a prototype with out the permenant battery and see how fast i go and what happends.

Bye guys Have fun with jay lol!

(ILL BE BACK WHEN I MAKE THE PROTOTYPE AT'S)
Until then find some ideas about the battery!!! NOT ANYTHING ELSE!!!
Im counting on you guys...good luck...

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@MangaMadMonkey: I use the ^^ symbol to because when you read the posts normally, the ^^ is literally pointing at the person whose post is above mine, which is the post I'm answering.

@adamska954: It'll still take around the same watts as I said before, and it still depends on how good of a motor you can build/buy.

I think i found i motor that could do it but im not sure heres the link
http://www.electricvehiclesusa.com/product_p/ki-sd-1000w.htm

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Well guys if you can msg me the materials and the blue prints i got like an extra 100 grand on making a working model or three

didnt have the time to read all 53 pages, so a quick update on the status of the project would be nice. So has there been a decisive conclusion on:motor, power source, motor in the wheel or not, acceleration method, and cushion system?

Hello. to introduce myself. Watashi wa Jesse duse. Although I promised myself I wanted to do only manga I have been pulled back into engineering for this. I am 16, but I gaurentee that my typing is bad and also grammer but I am somewhat a engineering geniouse.
in my next post i will explain what i saw in the specs for these
and also try and give you a viable explenation as to build them. i
am working solo at the moment drawing out numurouse plans
and looking for the best engine to modify because you all know
that no engine is strong enough but perhaps with a new suspension
and what not...well ill just post it up.

Hajimemashou

In the 3d view i saw a rotator inside the wheel. i'll talk about this first

The wheel needing to be maybe twice as large as a normal rollerblading wheel we all recognize. the rubber will have to be around a house someway connected to the housing as well
Inside the Engine housing on each wheel the motor would have a turner rod though it connected out of the wheal into a mini hidrolic systyem(i will explain Hidrolic system later) the motor will catch notches as a gear would. but the "gears would have to be 3 in number with eachother created a good strong hold. now the wheel will need to be sturdy as well as the inside as to not break the gears or turn bar upon impact from the ground. remember 100lb person doing normal jump can have downward motion of atleast 300lb or more so skates will be light..moving on

okay the turning pistons. they will need to be attachs to hubs as shown from the manga that go down covering half of the wheel. inside those will be a hidrolic accelerating system.
Hidrolic or( SHOCK OBSORBING FORCE OUTPUT SYSTEM) as i call it. when you land not only will the shock obsorbers come into play with a high alloy and high tension grade but the downward force on the turnbar will cause a small reciever below it to go off. In turn the reciever is attached to the electric battery as you could have guessed. and there we are downward force=extra acceleration without going to fast as to break the hubs or sling you into...oncoming traffic. I'm drawing out plans as we speak. the motor is complicated as it runs throughout most of the shoe in a very...straniouse housing. i appologize for the length of this message. if we can make these then it would be nice when i move to japan to roll around in these.

When you send me feed back i will send the fashion for it.

let's make this dream a reality

DAM! seems like u got this pretty figured out. I was thinking of helping but though im not engineer i got basic knowledge of sorts that may help. I was thinking of using a shopping cart-ish wheel for the treck since we need to house a motor with enough power to move us. The site here[http://premiercarts.com/wheels_and_casters.htm ]
has an assortment of wheels to fit ur possible need, theres even an 8 inch wheel with 1200 pound support lol. But i suppose thats way too big, i was look at the "Box of 50 4" Poly wheels" those should be sufficient size and seem thick enough. Let me know if anything comes up im good with searches for items.

@IkkiCrow: I see you speak some Japanese...good. Anyways, perhaps it'll be apparent when you post again, but I don't know how you will power the motor. If the motor itself spins, the wires will twist; if the motor doesn't spin, then I don't understand how your 3 gears fit into this design.

yes jay, we know your logic knows the boundaries, and maybe you think you're here to save us from dreaming. but who cares? we're doing this on our own consent. no one is pointing a gun at our heads to force us to come here..(right?)

you just lowering the morale. at the first few ten pages, yeah it's okay. i thought of you like the border guard, stopping us before we get over the border.

but really, we don't need a "mom" while discussing this. no one is cussing, or beating each other. we've been good. now will you please just let us discuss this instead of going "no no no. that's not good. i'll wait for next ideas to bash"

i know you're just stating the logic, but after a while, yeah, we got tired of it. honestly, you're like my mom nagging 24/7. sheesh. it's though enough with one mom..

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anyway, i got too many free time as of now. and yes, i've read the thread up to the latest page. maybe i missed some. but, the ideas so far sounds good enough.

... but honestly i have no clue which part is which right now. too many chatter. ima spend my sunday taking notes on this. trying to defrag the discussion. lol

Let's get Kickin' ...whatever that means

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@IkkiCrow: I see you speak some Japanese...good. Anyways, perhaps it'll be apparent when you post again, but I don't know how you will power the motor. If the motor itself spins, the wires will twist; if the motor doesn't spin, then I don't understand how your 3 gears fit into this design.

What you say is wrong. Wires wont get tangle if the motor in wheel. Heres an explaination: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPSoNfmuBXc ] [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnUGvfCkvbk ]
simple as that the wires dont move at all the wires are in the same state as the axis of the wheel.

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@IkkiCrow: I see you speak some Japanese...good. Anyways, perhaps it'll be apparent when you post again, but I don't know how you will power the motor. If the motor itself spins, the wires will twist; if the motor doesn't spin, then I don't understand how your 3 gears fit into this design.

What you say is wrong. Wires wont get tangle if the motor in wheel. Heres an explaination: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPSoNfmuBXc ] [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnUGvfCkvbk ]
simple as that the wires dont move at all the wires are in the same state as the axis of the wheel.

That a good idea it really is but i hope you know this isnt a car. If we try to do that our motor will be to small and it will be the problem of how to power it.

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@BlackShiraya: Yes, I know what a hub motor is. However, the fact that those kinds of motors don't typically use pistons or notched gears made me think he was talking about something different.

@lightning: OK, I will refrain posting any 'negative' things.

@fangking: A guy already made a hub motor that fits into a skate (razor scooter) wheel. In fact, my best advice was to wait for that guy to finish it and publicly release the plans. However, there isn't a way to power it without a rather large external battery. If the battery issue were tossed aside, anyone here could go and build a decent (10-15mph) speed AT, assuming they had the equipment and knowledge to build the motor and calibrate a controller.

Good morning everyone. Thank you for replies. I do sapport negative feedback so don't jump all over them haha 😃

Okay since my last post i've set up some simulations on paper and computer. A few changes are in order as the motor would have some problems with the turn bar connected to the reciever in the hubs. Now i've came up with a simpler yet more effecient way or 2. if anyone has yahoo messenger this could go a little faster mine is. blazingbirdofegypt@yahoo.com. I appologize for the long name i was 12 when i made that.

But for now i'll explain simply the next one im going to try out. again i want help in any way possible from you guys. this is somewhat our dream we can achieve it faster together. but here it is.

The weal now is on a suspension system to assorb shock. the system is comprised of 2 bars connected to the main shocks with plug into a switch like circuit. when the skates are pushed further into the body(not barely an inch since im testing with high grade shock absorbers i made myself) the circuit will complete giving out energy to send through the bars to a rotator that goes through the weal that is attached in side. And when your just rideing the bar turns along with it so no problem with wires i Know someone was concerned. the battery is still going to be placed ride in the middle of the shoe. please feedback. if you have ideas SHARE THEM PLEASE 😛

On a later note. the battery system is a problem...we might have to look at a way of makeing our own technology.. That could be the hardest part here. But i'm sure that everyone doesnt want a battery somewhere on them. They want the real thing!