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wate. does that mean ur gonna get rid of the pressure system??

everyone can do whatever they want to their AT i just think that with only a limited speed of 12mph having a pressure system wouldnt be as affective as the anime/manga when they go at like 50mph. Besides the motorwheel from the youtube video doesnt have variable speeds it can only be set to lower speed but manually setting it not using a control.

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I dont think u get what im saying so ill try making it more simple.

1. Powersliding/ T-stop does not add any frontal pressure but rather u lean most your weight on the back as if u were standing. I know because i rollerblade and ice skate.
2. If you were watching the le motorwheel video, it seems that the wheels stop pretty quickly so once u let go of the accelerator. Also there is no different speed just accel and no accel, the way to maintain a certain speed is just to accel let go and accel again when u need to go faster. Adding the pressure system is of no use if ur planning to use the le motorwheel. This is why i simply suggest a simple contact accel at the front of the shoe.
3. The creators and right holders of the anime will unlikely let us use the name AT unless they have full confidence in our product, done tests on it, not to mention having to hold equal rights if the product goes wrong. Plus if its on a global mass, laws will be created for sure, just like those mini motorbikes. So its best to keep it underground.
4. Sky stream is already an actual product name....http://www.skystreamenergy.com/ alwaes google before u state a name to make sure its unique.
   5)I think the wheel should be at the back of the to reduce the changes of flipping forward when u stop.

i get what ur saying i think ur the one who doesnt understand on the pressure system idea, even electric scooters have adjustable speed which is due to different amounts of voltage being fed to the motor so if u recreated that throttle systems with a pressure censor in the front wheel instead of a hand throttle, u would have adjustable speeds. also u can say that u dont put any pressure on the front wheels during a stop but whenever u stop u DO put an amount of pressure on both wheels, it isnt all on the back wheels, and what im saying is that for ur contact idea, If that pressure was enough to push them together, the motor would spin again. And on the video the wheels stoped spining so quickly because nobody was using them to roll down a street so they stop much quicker on there own, but thats not the point of the braking idea in the first place, the braking is just to control ur speed in emergency cases, like a car cutting u off. And finally if u go back and read my comments i already said that it would be best to make them in ur garage and keep them secret because nobody would allow us to have them, the only reason i suggested the sponsor idea is because someone said that it would go through a global production type of phase, but if its made underground then we can call them whatever the hell we want because they will not be sold at stores. I think that covers all the misunderstandings. And i also already mentioned that the wheel motor should be placed in the back but for a different reason.But i don't quite understand ur reason becauyse if ur gonna stop like with normal rollerskates, which wheel the motor is on doesnt really matter to the fliping problenm.
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P.S. Just wondering though where u got 12mph, cause like i said before, with a single motor the scooters go maybe 15-20mph, but with two motors because htere are two skates, u would be able to reach speeds of almost twice that. you see the reason the motors only go low speeds isnt because of their limits , its of the load they hafta carry so for two motors the load is divided between the two therefore u can reach greater speeds, and i've seen some of these motors reach speeds of 20mph pretty easily while carrying a person.

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@tokuin: To be honest, you could call them whatever you want as long as you don't advertise or sell them; there's no need to make them "underground".

@Banker232: Before any venture funding is started, it would be a good idea to know what you are actually funding. Some people are saying it should go 40mph, and others are saying it'll go 12mph. Some people say it'll use the pressure system; others say it won't. I think it would be good to decide now exactly what specs you are looking for.

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@tokuin: To be honest, you could call them whatever you want as long as you don't advertise or sell them; there's no need to make them "underground".

@Banker232: Before any venture funding is started, it would be a good idea to know what you are actually funding. Some people are saying it should go 40mph, and others are saying it'll go 12mph. Some people say it'll use the pressure system; others say it won't. I think it would be good to decide now exactly what specs you are looking for.

well making them "underground" means exactly that, no advertising and no selling, basically just like on the show u would be modifying ur own rollerblades because that way every1 gets what they want, i assume the only thing that would be provided for us from this forum are some design plans a list of materials that are needed and maybe some good instructions. when all is said and done, im sure some1 will end up getting a pair off ebay or something. Plus what fun would it be to fly alone? So if we could ever set it up like a small nightime community, that meets up somewhere, sells parts, helps newcomers, than all the better, right? Personally i've never built anything other than a few computers and an electric go-kart for my younger cousin so if someone were to help me in the building process after they are done with their own, i would love them. lol Of course i wouldnt expect any freebies. Make no mistake these will cost each individual a fairly large amount of money.

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^^ By underground, I got the impression of nobody knows/top secret, not publicly accessible forums with public plans and specifications. It's not like these skates would be illegal anyways.

My biggest concern has always been the top speed of the skate, the max range, and fitting the motor + batteries inside the skate without it becoming bulky.

the thing is if we got them to go speeds of 40mph they probably wouldnt be legal, and even if they were, there would be special laws for them.
The motor doesnt take up any extra room because it is contained in the wheel itself, the batteries depending on what we use could be set up kinda like batteries for laptops to be attached on the back of the skates. Or we might hafta where back packs for the batteries.

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plZZZZ no back packs. I know it mite be impossible without them but I think itd be a pain. for a prototype itd be ok but yeah well I don't really wanna be wearing a backpack all the time. and if u are gonna sell it underground does that mean it won't be global?

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the thing is if we got them to go speeds of 40mph they probably wouldnt be legal, and even if they were, there would be special laws for them.
The motor doesnt take up any extra room because it is contained in the wheel itself, the batteries depending on what we use could be set up kinda like batteries for laptops to be attached on the back of the skates. Or we might hafta where back packs for the batteries. It will be VERY difficult I think to get the skates to go 40mph, unless there is a motor in each wheel, and the rider is fairly lightweight. If there are 4 motors total, it would draw way more power than any battery could provide that fits in the skate.

40mph wasn't an accurate number it was just a speed close to that of what they get in the show, but in the near futur it may actually be possible. In wheel motors are new to the scene so havent reached there full potential yet. In a few years, we might have some wheels that could bring us to those speeds, so basically we have time to practice on the lower power stuff until the real thing comes out lol. Plus im not that great a skater so 50km/h is prolly too much for me let alone 40Mph. If it goes as fast as me on a peddle bike, ill be happy with that 😀

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Hey ppl I'm new here. Totally interested in making ATs so I thought I'd drop in and see what's going on. It'll take a while for me to catch up since there's a lot of posts though haha.

Okay, a few things here. I'm new to this site, and this particular topic caught my interest, because Air Gear officially rocks! Plus, I wasn't able to read through every page here, so I'm gonna need some time to catch up on the progress so far.

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tokuin: i see what you mean about the motors of scooters but the thing is that they are way too big too fit into a wheel and i recommend that we go for 20 mph to start off if we can get or make a motor small enough too fit in a wheel with that much power then we might be able too do something and what i think the reasoning for air treks too go 40 mph is too do tricks and do jump but i think that maybe too much until we get use too the speeds and could also have serious injuries falling when going 40mph isnt fun lol

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tokuin: i see what you mean about the motors of scooters but the thing is that they are way too big too fit into a wheel and i recommend that we go for 20 mph to start off if we can get or make a motor small enough too fit in a wheel with that much power then we might be able too do something and what i think the reasoning for air treks too go 40 mph is too do tricks and do jump but i think that maybe too much until we get use too the speeds and could also have serious injuries falling when going 40mph isnt fun lol

wat if just wat if we make a big and (powerful) in wheel motor and a thin plastic wheel (well semi-wheel) has to be strong and hard then connect the two semi wheels together do the same with the other two then connect them to together with a chain ......then... get four bateries bulid them in to the shoe two each side put one and one lower ( if ur lost im only talking about one shoe at the moment)
then make several holes in the middle of the sole of the shoe after put springs
this is what i call the springs>accelerator/s and for batteries>gears now let me tell why first is your push the springs hard gear one is going to touch the chain forming the circuit which make the motors blades spin (ha remember it in wheel) then make the wheel move (how?) inside the wheel the theres slots (get it?) if you push the accelerator harder both gears will be touch the chain make the motor work harder (FASTER!!!)
THATS IT FOR A GOOD PROTOTYPE 🤣 (ADD MORE GEARS IF YOU MAKE I JUST EXPLAIN TWO GEARS SO CONFUSION ERUPTIONS 😁 😎

sorry if there was some confusion but i was never talking about electric scooters that u buy, i meant in wheel motor scooters that some ppl like to build. ive seem them reach speeds of 20 mph easily. now the thing i want to mention about the speed is that skaters go faster than 20mph without motors, so the only thing that would accomplish is to make skaters lazy but thats not what we want, is it? Don't we just wanna go faster? or is this project just for cosplays or something? 😕

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nope we wanna go faster FASTER 😀