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don't be arrogant, you think you can join the forum and after one day tell everyone they wasted there time? Every one here has already "walked" by which i mean went rollerblading, if not i highly suggest you take some time to start ASAP. We aren't over thinking things, we are just coming up with later improvements, so don't go around saying things that may piss ppl off. Since everybody will have to do this themselves at home, i don't give a fuck what you use as a motor. I've said this before, if u wanna attach a motor cycle engine to your fucking foot GO AHEAD. Now if you wanna use magnets fine but i have a suggestion for you, instead of using regular magnets, use electro-magnets, it won't take much to power them and it gives you the option of a cut off switch and /or speed control. If the problem is your too damn cheap to buy batteries, then get a fucking clue. The wheel for your idea requires more modifications than a fucking in-wheel motor (exaggerating a bit but not much that's the funny part). Your gonna have to learn how to make your own wheels so you can embed a metallic carbide or copper ring or something to actually be affected by a magnet. So u see the problem isn't we are over thinking things, it's that your under thinking, and that my friend cause deaths in the engineering world.
Oh and btw if you take the time to read past posts, you'll see we have ikki-san working on schematics for a two wheel rollerblade that will fit power supply wires and etc. See what happens when your arrogant? You end up being the person who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.

Dude, calm down. I didn't mean it to sound arrogant, but if that's the way you took it then fine.

Now to buisness. Has there been an idea to have both in shoe and wheel motor? Not sure how well that might work, yet if there can be a way to alternate from motor to motor it should have the same effect as shifting gears... right?

Also I don't know how well magnets would work for the Trek's. Having a good amount of electronics and such, I don't think it's worth the risk. Unless there is a way to turn it on and off by running a currnet through. It will also have to be blocked off from everything else.

Oh I just remembered, what do you have in mind for cushoning? [don't know if it's spelled right]

It's fine if you didn't mean it that way just becareful what u say because some of the ppl here have spent alot of time on this. Anyway for the first part, i'm not positive if i understand correctly but it seems ur suggesting two motors powering one wheel. Unfortunately it would be nearly impossible to use two motors to power the same wheel. Depending on how u made it, one motor would either overwork the other or if they were independent of the others function (kinda like how you can peddle backwards with a bike and it doesn't interrupt anything) it would waste alot of power not to mention finding a power supply to run both motors would be very difficult. We have thought of other options, however in-wheel would seem to be the safest and easiest to fit into the skate. As for cushioning, I believe your reffering to the jump system they have in the anime and manga, the thing is it's not really needed at this point since we won't be able to reach speeds higher than 40kmh and wallclimbs are physically impossible. However if that's something you require for your style of skating, feel free to bounce ideas off of us, though i don't think you'll get an elaborate system like what they described on the anime.

If any1 has anymore suggestions for motors, please post the link to the site with the best info on it. Also regarding the companies not responding. I've thought of a solution, hobby stores (online or otherwise) can sometimes obtain the merchandise for you and then you pay them a slightly inflated cost for the motor.

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on youtube a guy already made a wheel motor check it out this shits fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NazDiO1aarI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07FmvP23T2w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sg_cojXZug&feature=related

the last one is a guy riding at slow speed
not sure if anyone on the topic know about it already or not

I may be jumping the gun a little here, but I think I may have a solution to your power supply woes.

[url]http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00werQRGNnbLbuM/Dynamo-Torch.jpg[/url]

Y'see, A while ago I came across a torch similar to the one posted, where the dynamo is spun incredibly fast by a pressure pad, located on the side. This then charges the battery located inside the torch, powering it for hours on end. (literally, one or two squeezes will keep it going for about an hour.)
How viable would it be to fit something like this onto the suspension (If you have reached this far in the project)?

Also, a fronpage tl;dr would be much obliged- 60+ pages is a lot to read through. =_=

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That would for sure solve our run time problem which was kind of a big deal to me seeing as how i plan on using these as much and as long as posible

If we use a batt with a run time of about an hour maybe hour and a 1/2 we could use your idea to charge it after that or were you sugesting we use that as the power source either way is a good idea the only thing is if its use as the primary power source were would the pumping be done to trigger the rotation

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If we use a batt with a run time of about an hour maybe hour and a 1/2 we could use your idea to charge it after that or were you sugesting we use that as the power source either way is a good idea the only thing is if its use as the primary power source were would the pumping be done to trigger the rotation

The pumping would probably be done using the front or back of the skate, depending on how most people ride and which end receives the most pressure. When skaters accelerate, a lot of pressure is put on the back or front wheel (depending on the style). A pressure pad or pump could be put integrated into the suspension system, (once again, can someone tell me how much progress has been made with this?) creating the pumping motion, charging the skate as is moves along. Also, I would say it would only need a half hour battery, as anything else would be too big, or heavy. That said, I don't know what kind of batteries you are planning on putting in these things.

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@lrdblackurns: The le wheelmotor has already been brought up but he's not the first to make a wheel motor, companies have been making them for years, but his is the smallest I've seen he just doesn't wanna work with us on it.

@ kyoraki: We are the design stage for a basic model, ikki-san has a friend working on a blueprint. If u wanna get caught up just go back a few pages and read from there. About your pump idea, idk if it would work for this. Torch batteries don't need lots of power, that's why the dynamo can charge it for so long and so easily. Therefore to make it possible to charge the minimum 24v battery that we would need, it would most likely have to be significantly larger. Depending on how it works, maybe it could be placed in one of the wheels. That would take care of the rotation without having to fit it in the suspensionand ad a pressure switch. But like i said, i don't think there will be any run time problems. Li-ion batteries last very long and aren't very difficult to charge. I predict a four hour run time and then u just need to charge them overnight. If you ever did run outta power, just skate. It's like escalators, they never break down they just become stairs. lol But really this can all be worked once we have a working prototype. If any of you live in the same area, you might wanna think about working together. Make no mistake these will be something you make yourself in your garage or in your room, basement, anywhere really. If your under 18 i don't suggest you tell ppl where you live. Personally i don't give a shit, it doesn't concern me that "the wrong people" might find out my address. So if anyone wants to work with me, my e-mail is bonfield_beaver@hotmail.com and I live in Bonfield Ontario Canada.

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Ok i had saw it and i though it would help but if he wont help us then oh well i guess but when will the blueprints be done anyone have an ETA

P.S are the tiny wheel motors up to be bought and if so were can i buy it PLEASE i think i have very thing ready i just need a motor
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OK i live in England, and though i dunno why, im assuming most of you are in the USA or Canada...

Glad to hear most things have been thought of. A thought on the dynamo idea ...although you cant use a dynamo alone for power, it wont do any harm to have one (or more, there are atleast 2 wheels on each skate) recharging the battery slightly as you go. May as well... maybe as a later add on or a personal touch, as you rightly say we will basically be making our own so we can do what we like really!!

Thats a good idea about the hobby shops, most are happy to help.

How does the blueprint look so far ikki-san?? if you need any help not sure how good ill be but i can try.

Wow.. you guys are seriously dedicated<3 it's awesome that so many ppl are coming together for this. I beleive you guys can make it happen! awesome!

well it's difficult to find the right sized wheelmotor, but the site with the smallest wheels available to the general public is goldenmotor.com, unfortunately the smallest isnt fast enough and it's still 6" in diameter.

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Thanks for the help maybe ill try it anyway i will post pic of finished project maybe my idea will turn out ok

P.S i will have a friend post test run as well more then likely on youtube

WOW.... i was gone for only a week and it seems like your almost done... after the motor what else is there to do?

Let's see if I can respond to all this.

Cushoning for landind.

In wheel motor seem the best to me.

I have serious doubts about the dynamo since it can't power the whole thing. Yet if you are to have one at every wheel, and send it to the same power supply, then you may get a decent amount of time to ride in an hour... wait, going top speed should make input greater, and i think maybe half an hour might be made with an hour of original eletrical riding. I like this idea. Comments, Suggestions?

and what about an air piston. not one of those illusion ones, i mean a real circular air piston. you can have that runninga great amount of time with one tank. it weights only a few pounds depending on the size, and one to fit an AT should be very light. we could fill up small tanks on the inside sides of the framework to keep it safe and try to fill it up to the most of its potential, and then some. It could either be the ligitamet fuel supply, or just for an extra kick.

That's actually a very good idea, compressed air has a lot of power. If you found the right tap so you don't use your air too fast, it could work, but i doubt it would work as a main source of propulsion, the air wouldn't last more than half an hour. But as an extra kick it would be awesome, if u had a nozzle for the bleed you could control your speed and making a casing to protect it wouldn't be difficult at all. If you used a refillable tank, you'd get less run time but easy refills, like with a paintball gun, if you went with sealed tanks, you would have longer run time but would need to mcguyver a bleed tube to attach a nozzle(is that the right word, like those things u turn for your garden hose?). It would be like our nitrous haha XD. Anyway great suggestion onyxomega, do u know of any circular pistons?

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