closest i get to hip hop is zebrahead, the other singer raps

though i have heard some good ones, just not interested enough to follow through

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Does such a thing even exist?

And what is it that you listen to?

Read the rest of the thread before you bash a whole genre of music. W

Just stating my opinion. I would've clicked the links, but I haven't any headphones/speakers attached to my computer, so I wouldn't hear them anyway. I've personally never heard a good rap song.

What do I listen to? Disco, Rock, Power Metal, jazz, and Blues. Sometimes regular metal as well.

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Does such a thing even exist?

And what is it that you listen to?

Read the rest of the thread before you bash a whole genre of music. W

Just stating my opinion. I would've clicked the links, but I haven't any headphones/speakers attached to my computer, so I wouldn't hear them anyway. I've personally never heard a good rap song.

What do I listen to? Disco, Rock, Power Metal, jazz, and Blues. Sometimes regular metal as well.

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's an ill informed opinion.

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DIsco- Sugarhill gang, grand master flash
Rock - Run DMC, Beastie Boys
Power Metal - Public Enemy, Rage against the Machines
Jazz - Common, A Tribe called Quest, Pete Rock, Nujabes, too many to name.
Blues - Rakim, Dr. Dre, Erykah Baduh

hip hop is f***ing diverse.

"Hip-hop was set out in the dark. They used to do it out in the park"

The Last Poets.

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DIsco- Sugarhill gang, grand master flash
Rock - Run DMC, Beastie Boys
Power Metal - Public Enemy, Rage against the Machines
Jazz - Common, A Tribe called Quest, Pete Rock, Nujabes, too many to name.
Blues - Rakim, Dr. Dre, Erykah Baduh

hip hop is f***ing diverse.

I wouldn't put the Grandmaster with disco. All disco is is a bastardization of funk music with the same riff/beat played over and over again. Made solely for club dancing.

Add Mos Def, Black Star and Wu Tang on the Blues tip, and maybe MOP as well.

Don't forget about the funk too. Most West Coast beats are based/sample off of funk (I.E. The Chronic and Regulate)

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i went wit the categories he set.

anywho for GOOD rap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOOD_Music
no pun intended. maybe.

"Hip-hop was set out in the dark. They used to do it out in the park"

Here's my list

Big Black Lincoln, best song "Pimpin' Life"
Snoop
The Roots
Outkast
Xhibit
Method and Red
Notorious B.I.G.
Easy E
Heavy D
Up to the people if they think its good, but those are a few I like

Big Black Lincoln video of Pimpin' Life below
view at your own discretion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldevid2GYpM

I admit there are some rap songs that are repetitive but those ones generally fall into the category of rap music people either, forget, want to forget, or remember to forget when it comes about again.

The breaks in the music are just that much more obvious than in other genres that it seems repetitive. I'm certain that if you looked at other songs you'd notice certain chords are repeated but the tone or pitch or pace has been altered so it doesn't seem as repetitive. The focus of rap music is mainly the lyrics, hence its name.

if the music terminology is wrong, so be it. Wasn't trying hard to get it right in the first place.

The main focus of hip hop, or black music in general, is a bottom up approach. Rhythm, harmony, melody. By and large, Hip Hop removes the melody from the mix, which is why many people, used to highly simple melodies that can be hummed, sung, whatever, don't consider rap to be music.

Recently, hip hop has become prevalent outside of it's initial base, which is mainly low working class urbanites, which is why it has lost touch with it's roots. Instead of telling a story, being a critical view of one's environment, or even what the term MC was born of, a Master of Ceremonies, controlling a crowd at an event/party through improvisational calls, it has morphed into a money making machine that does nothing but exploit racial stereotypes. That is why Nas released an album called Hip Hop is dead.

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The main focus of hip hop, or black music in general, is a bottom up approach. Rhythm, harmony, melody. By and large, Hip Hop removes the melody from the mix, which is why many people, used to highly simple melodies that can be hummed, sung, whatever, don't consider rap to be music.

Recently, hip hop has become prevalent outside of it's initial base, which is mainly low working class urbanites, which is why it has lost touch with it's roots. Instead of telling a story, being a critical view of one's environment, or even what the term MC was born of, a Master of Ceremonies, controlling a crowd at an event/party through improvisational calls, it has morphed into a money making machine that does nothing but exploit racial stereotypes. That is why Nas released an album called Hip Hop is dead.

You could not have said that any better.

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The main focus of hip hop, or black music in general, is a bottom up approach. Rhythm, harmony, melody. By and large, Hip Hop removes the melody from the mix, which is why many people, used to highly simple melodies that can be hummed, sung, whatever, don't consider rap to be music.

Recently, hip hop has become prevalent outside of it's initial base, which is mainly low working class urbanites, which is why it has lost touch with it's roots. Instead of telling a story, being a critical view of one's environment, or even what the term MC was born of, a Master of Ceremonies, controlling a crowd at an event/party through improvisational calls, it has morphed into a money making machine that does nothing but exploit racial stereotypes. That is why Nas released an album called Hip Hop is dead.

actually hip hop is doing exactlly what it's inteded to do. Plz the ppl. Hip hop and rap music in general developed from dancehall and reggae. As hard as that is to believe it's true. See dj's or "selectors" would play a rythem and sing or rap over it to make it seem original or like a live performance. When this was all dont the main point of this was a party. Carribean ppl like to dance from mourning ryte beck to mourning. Hip hop is sorta bringing it back straight to the roots. I'm not knocking old rap and i'm definitly not suporting new rap but i consider it all to be music. Being a dancer...what ever gets me amped enough that i can't sit still is my kinda music...my preferance my not b the same as yours...but it's still music none the less.

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I prefer rock instant of rap but this too are really good.
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The main focus of hip hop, or black music in general, is a bottom up approach. Rhythm, harmony, melody. By and large, Hip Hop removes the melody from the mix, which is why many people, used to highly simple melodies that can be hummed, sung, whatever, don't consider rap to be music.

Recently, hip hop has become prevalent outside of it's initial base, which is mainly low working class urbanites, which is why it has lost touch with it's roots. Instead of telling a story, being a critical view of one's environment, or even what the term MC was born of, a Master of Ceremonies, controlling a crowd at an event/party through improvisational calls, it has morphed into a money making machine that does nothing but exploit racial stereotypes. That is why Nas released an album called Hip Hop is dead.

actually hip hop is doing exactlly what it's inteded to do. Plz the ppl. Hip hop and rap music in general developed from dancehall and reggae. As hard as that is to believe it's true. See dj's or "selectors" would play a rythem and sing or rap over it to make it seem original or like a live performance. When this was all dont the main point of this was a party. Carribean ppl like to dance from mourning ryte beck to mourning. Hip hop is sorta bringing it back straight to the roots. I'm not knocking old rap and i'm definitly not suporting new rap but i consider it all to be music. Being a dancer...what ever gets me amped enough that i can't sit still is my kinda music...my preferance my not b the same as yours...but it's still music none the less.

Hip Hop developed out of Funk and Soul, not 'dancehall' and reggae. Bootsy Collins would have what were essentially raps over the intros and bridges of many of his songs. The actual form developed in a party setting in Brooklyn, Harlem, Queens, etc. There was a DJ (Disc Jockey) who would play a track from a popular song (sometimes even a rock and roll record) for the people to dance to. The MC (Master of Ceremonies) would then get the crowd further into the party mood by essentially making an impromptu speech. Those 'speeches' developed into freestyles. People like Grandmaste Caz and The Cold Crush brothers, and Kurtis Blow, would use the energy of the crowd to fuel their rhymes.

However, like all forms, Hip Hop evolved very soon after it's inception. Kurtis Blow released "Streets of New York" and "The Breaks", which had a more social consciousness to them. That gave way to KRS One, Afrika Bambaataa and the Zulu Nation, A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy, and NWA. And if you say that a party group like Sugar Hill Gang is better than Public Enemy or NWA, you might as well just quit now.

Like I said, what is being made now is not hip hop, it's pop music. Just like the so called "R&B", a la Chris Brown, Akon and the rest. Just because black people make it doesn't make it rap/r&b.

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My list:

A Tribe Called Quest
Aesop Rock
Binary Star
DangerDoom
Del the Funky Homosapien
Gangstarr
Wu Tang Clan
Ghost Face Killah
Hieroglyphics
Immortal Technique (they fell a bit)
MF Doom
One Be lo
Zion I
Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Atmosphere
Sage Francis
Blackstar

And some more I can name, I dislike that fake hip-hop like 50 cent where bitchs and diamonds are the thing. Hip Hop is story, meaning.. not how you have 1 million dollars and make woman lick your #I%U@&%@#$&@#&@#&%