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Post #164229 - Reply To (#164224) by tallrice
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there are so many flaws in his strategies that aren't taken up just because the author wants him to be amazing

Well, there are always flaws in a plan that a human thought up of. Like Lelouch said in Ep. 02; "There is no perfect plan with humans."

Light is smarter, and more adaptive; He usually has lots of back-up plans that are effective too. And nobody knows who Kira is too. They just suspect it, after L's statement. Before that, nobody knew and nobody would know.

Also Light could easily discover that Lelouch's real last name was Vi Britannia.


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Post #164232 - Reply To (#164214) by darkbass
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zero would win.... even if kira discovered that zero is lelouch, he would go with lelouch lamperouge(is the name right?) while his real name is lelouch vi britannia, one thing that even his "close friends" don't know....

ooo your ryte onl him and his father know that....good call

and kira is dead...therefor...he's a LOSER...A Lewhooooo...seherrrrrr
Zero is still alive...Zero wins 😛

Zero ftw lol


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I thought about it a bit, and came to the conclusion that it doesn't actually matter who is more intelligent. With both identities hidden, it comes down to who has the better information network, and the answer to that is Zero. Additionally, Light would have to go through two barriers (Zero = Lelouch Lamperouge = Lelouch vi Britannia) rather than just one (Light = Kira). Having more chess pieces helps a lot, especially if they're all masked terrorists.


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If you're gonna bring in the "pawns" don't forget that Light has Misa. Given that Zero is too conspicuous when he shows up compared to Kira who no one knows what he looks like...one look from Misa and Light already has a name. And with the name "Vi Brittania" it shouldn't be too hard to find info on Lelouch as well as a picture.(Though I have to admit that it would be hard to find a picture of teen Lelouch...)


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Kira hv his eye become shinigami eye, see Zero face, write Zero name, kill him and not long kira die because his life span cut into half, end of story.......


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imagine if they were about to meet each other, kira couldn't do anything to zero, meanwhile zero order him to tell him everything then let him suicide.

for easier example, how about if L got Lelouch's geass? raito would be long in jail.

mind control is much more useful than simple ability just to kill.


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You can control people with death note before they die..


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Post #164255 - Reply To (#164252) by Domonkazu
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Quote from mashqi

You can control people with death note before they die..

That's not really what Domonkazu was trying to say...

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imagine if they were about to meet each other, kira couldn't do anything to zero, meanwhile zero order him to tell him everything then let him suicide.

for easier example, how about if L got Lelouch's geass? raito would be long in jail.

mind control is much more useful than simple ability just to kill.

That is IF zero finds out who Kira is. And if the situation given were to happen I will admit...it would be Lights' loss. But he's too smart to get into a face to face confrontation...plus as stated earlier Lelouch relies too much on luck... remember how many times Lelouch would've been caught already if it wasn't for luck (luck as in, Not according to his plan)

P.S.: Also, in said face to face confrontation, if Light had sunglasses geass would be ineffective...and it would take time to write on the Death Note. So with both of their powers sealed they would need to rely on physical capabilities which obviously, Light has the upper hand


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Lelouch is more emotional than Light which would be a weakness but at the end Light became too arogant which ultimately lead to his downfall where as Lelouch has managed to keep things in perpesctive so I would think Zero would win. I think their intelligence is equal so it comes down to personality and I think Zero has the edge there. Also I think the ability of absolute command is better since there are so many restraints on Light such as knowing their face and name, mind Kira can kill at a distance. Lelouch just needs eye contact but within a certain distance. Close call but I think Zero would win.

I agree that physically Light would beat lelouch hands down though if not abilities were used. Not really much of a contest there, lol.


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With lelouch's combination of geass and an actual group of unidentified thugs, he could give Light a very hard time. I know Light could easily infiltrate the Black Knights, but I still think that he'd have trouble actually defeating Lelouch himself.


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Kira alone is quite worthless.


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Okay, so let's make them even, shall we?

If Light had the same Geass, and a similar resistance group (let's call it the White Knights for argument's sake -.-), and someway they need to kill the leader of the opposite group. Who's strategy would win? Light's or Lelouch's? Remember, Light has the same power, and no Death Note.


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If you're gonna bring in the "pawns" don't forget that Light has Misa. Given that Zero is too conspicuous when he shows up compared to Kira who no one knows what he looks like...one look from Misa and Light already has a name. And with the name "Vi Brittania" it shouldn't be too hard to find info on Lelouch as well as a picture.(Though I have to admit that it would be hard to find a picture of teen Lelouch...)

Misa is useless against masks, so that's pretty irrelevent. Additionally, the Black Knights have an underground information network- which is arguably much more potent than anything even L ever had access to.

Placed in an even position, Lelouch still wins. He's more charismatic, so his group will be larger and more powerful. Additionally, his concern is equality, rather than justice, which I think typically holds a greater appeal.


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Theres a flaw to Geass, it just obeys commands, and only one time use on that peson. The fact that Zero comes to a bad plan, he loses his timid control and lady luck saves him.

Light adapts, when fighting his first enemy, he was able to predict the events so far away, not even a Zero's intelligence can do that. To predict a timeline of 2-4 months than 2-3 hours is amazing.

Therefore Light wins.

  • He can has a pawn called misa, while Zero has soldiers. Righting down all those soldiers names leaves Zero open.

Post #164290 - Reply To (#164278) by Dr. Love
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Okay, so let's make them even, shall we?

If Light had the same Geass, and a similar resistance group (let's call it the White Knights for argument's sake -.-), and someway they need to kill the leader of the opposite group. Who's strategy would win? Light's or Lelouch's? Remember, Light has the same power, and no Death Note.

That'd be ordinary warfare.
More than the power of the leaders,
the choices of the crew are the trump card.


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