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Still, the ones who command the troops play a huge role too. If he doesn't pick the right battle strategy, they'll lose, doesn't matter how good his crew is.

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Still, the ones who command the troops play a huge role too. If he doesn't pick the right battle strategy, they'll lose, doesn't matter how good his crew is.

Lelouch still wins in that regard as an experienced tactician (and an experienced chess player, although that's largely irrelevent) versus Light's more or less ordinary education. Intelligence doesn't matter if someone is significantly more experienced and the playing field is almost even.

Plus, Lelouch's stronger cohorts are all tacticians (Todou & co.).

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Yeah, I have to admit that Lelouch will probably win from Light in a chess match. Guess we'll have to see the end result of this season to truly see how far Lelouch's abilities extend to (As in, how well-elaborate plans he can carry out)? Like, the next episode seems interesting, looking at the title alone.

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Hmm, considering Light couldn't even win against Near, I'd say that Lelouch would win.

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Hmm, considering Light couldn't even win against Near, I'd say that Lelouch would win.

Light was far superior at the beginning when he was battling L because he was, like Lelouch is atm, constantly kept on his toes by events not always going as he planned. Light only lost in the end because in the years since

L's death he had no one to match him mentally and thus, since he managed to manipulate everyone else so easily, he grew overly arogant and complacent which meant he underestimated Near and Mello. ! Had Near and Mello been fighting Light from the start they never would have won . Lelouch hasn't lapsed into that over-arogance since he has enough problems to deal with and things going wrong on him to keep him mentally acute and thus thinking of every possible scenario. ! Light only died because he failed to comprehend that he might ever be outwitted, and thus forgot to think of every avenue. Near was lucky but it was Light that effectively killed himself.
It doesn't make him less intelligent, just complacent.

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People seem to love bringing up Lelouche's peons, but fail to realize that Light had the entire world under his thumb.

Not to mention Light's deduction skills were on par w/ if not better than L's so I think it would be pretty easy for him to figure out that Zero uses Geass to control people, and maybe even figure out its weaknesses. So, Light would then plan a strategy around figuring out Zero's ID, while Zero being clueless on how to stop Kira and what's effective against him won't see a thing coming.

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People seem to love bringing up Lelouche's peons, but fail to realize that Light had the entire world under his thumb.

Umm...that "entire world" doesn't take orders from him- he cannot easily communicate to it and his followers within it. If you recall, that's one of the things that helped Near trap Light at the end (his attempted communication, that is).

As for deductive skills, their intelligence is clearly on the same level. They're simply shown using in different ways (Lelouch strategically, Light deductively). Even on the off chance that Light discovered that there was a such a thing as a Geass, which is pretty unlikely since it's less obviously supernatural than a Death Note, he still wouldn't be able to do anything about it since he would have no name, and no face. Lelouch can just gather information in the same manner as L did to narrow down the suspects, then Geass him and order him to reveal whether or not he's Kira.

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the world were afraid of him they are not really a pawn.

you can said lelouch saved by lady luck, what about raito? without misa's shinigami he would never be able to kill L, he cheated him.

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It's not their intelligence which is the deciding factor since both seem to be equally of high intelligence and both have shown considerable deductive and strategic uses to that intelligence and both have shown they are capable of hiding their dual identities under close scrutinty (Light and Lelouch have both been watched 24/7 by cameras after all and still managed to hide who they are)

The question comes down to emotions and power. Light has less regard for humanity and is less in touch with his emotions but that makes him view others are far inferior to himself and thus underestimate them. Lelouch is more in tune with the capabilities and value of others but his emotions can cloud his judgement, like abandoning the battle at the end of season 1 because Nunally was kidnapped.

Also Lelouch is more showy than Light, who worked in the shadows as Kira and spread his message through others. But both hide their identity well so the limitations of their respective powers would be difficult to overcome. The reason I think Lelouch would win is because if Light did discover Zero's identity as Lelouch Lamperouge and entered it into the Death Note it wouldn't work since Lamperouge isn't Lelouch's real name and I don't think Light would consider using Shinigami's eyes to discover Lelouch's name through Misa since he wouold have no reason to suspect Lamperouge as being an alias. Plus Lelouch can simply order Light to reveal his true identity using Geass. Even if Light does discover Geass and devise a way to combat it (liek reflective glasses) there will be a point when Light is unprotected.

The pen is mightier than the sword...and considerably easier to write with.

In the event light finds out who lelouche is, it'll be only when lelouche wants him to, then its a matter of if he can write it in his deathnote fast enough, lelouche'll just tell him to kill himself, if not pull the trigger himself.

dats another issue, Lelouche can kill w/o his powers, should they ever meet face to face, light's dead.

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zero would obviously win. assuming that light could control the entire world you shouldn't forget that zero is bassically fighting and winning against most of the world.

also all of the times when his plans "failed" were because suzaku jumped into the fight and just pwned any solider that came by. Light doesn't have anyone like that to use.

even thought kira can just write down lelouch's name but kira is a freaking retard and will try to do some fancy BS and get owned. Zero will be straight forward and do Kira in like he did to his half brother.

Awesome, a lot of replies and views on this post after just one day. I was really hoping this match up would ring on the lot of you.

There are so many views now and I'm still not sure who'd win, but I'm kind of leaning more onto Kira winning against Zero. It's true that light became less careful after the first half of deathnote, but he was still pretty careful. He just wasn't careful enough. Overall, I believe Kira would have made an awesome strategy in tracking down Zero with a lot of backup plans to boot. Lelouch would probably have made an amazing strategy as well to track down kira, but not on the same level with Kira's. Overall, I think Light is a little smarter than Lelouch, that's why he'd win. But if Lelouch is even just a little close to how smart L was + the power of the Geass, Kira's toast, hehehe.

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lol a few weeks ago i was discussing this with a few friends. I think that Zero would win. Kira is probably slightly smarter but Zero doesnt have to reveal his face at all. If Zero could also simply order those close to Kira to kill him, he could also extract information this way. Afterall Misa was already suspected of being Kira by a lot of people who aren't so hard to find and Zero could just ask Misa for Kira's identity or ask her to kill Kira. Kira on the other hand cannot force somebody to kill another person. Plus if Zero really decided to be ruthless he could simply order everybody with any connection to Kira at all to reveal Kira's identity if possible and then to kill themselves.

Zero would win not matter how I look at it. His geass gives him a great advantage he wouldn't have to convince his enemies or anyone to go along with his plan. Kira would have to rely on his charm and hope it will be enough. Also I think Zero is more experienced with strategy. A death note has more limitations and is more traceable since it's not part of your body like a geass. I think Zero has better allies than Kira does too. Rollo would be more useful to Zero then Misa would be to Light/Kira.